Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Hi Martin,
On 12/27/2012 8:31 AM, Martin Gainty wrote:
so...why doesn't Postgres port to embedded systems?
IME, it requires lots of resources (the vast majority of embedded
systems are resource starved -- resources == $$ and when you are
selling things in volume, every penny saved adds up quickly!).
Lots of MIPS, lots of RAM -- even the code footprint is "significant".
OTOH, (again, IME) designing with the "relational table" construct
makes coding a very different experience! Already being biased
in favor of table-driven algorithms, I took this opportunity to
move all the "const" tables out of my executables and into the
DBMS (which takes a performance hit but keeps the code much more
mutable). I've gone so far as to hide the filesystem from the
applications -- objects that would have typically resided in
ad hoc files are now stored in structured tables (eliminates
the need to write lots of special parsers to be able to impose
structure on what would otherwise be unstructured "bytes")
so do you reduce CPU or IO when you take a java variable final int
foo=1; and insert foo as a const column in a table?
[For the most part, I don't use Java as most of my projects have
real-time constraints and the lack of determinism in Java blows
that out of the water]
My (original) comment above is meant to address taking tables
of constants out of code and moving them into the DBMS -- *fetching*
them at run-time and using them in their normal role AS IF they
had been hard-coded into the executable.
E.g., given a Julian day, most folks would convert it to a (month,day)
tuple using a table like:
days[] = {
31, /* Jan */
28, /* Feb */
31, /* Mar */
30, /* Apr */
...
31/* Dec */
}
Instead of putting this table in the code as a const datum, I would
store it in the DBMS and retrieve it as/when needed for the conversion.
[This is a silly example but one that is easy to understand]
Among other things, it allows me to change the contents of the
table without having to release a new executable
[Again, this example is silly in this regard as January will *always*
have 31 days so there will never be a need to change that! OTOH, if
the table is used to determine how far to advance the timing of the
spark in an internal combustion engine with respect to engine RPM's,
then you *may* want to change/tweek that table at some time in the
future to obtain better performance or accommodate changes in the
manufacture of the engine -- without changing all the code that
*references* that table. If that table is embedded in the actual
executable, this isn't very easy.]
As far as my parsing comment is concerned...
The structure that a table can impart to the data that it represents
allows you to identify that data *once*, stuff it into the appropriate
fields and then never have to parse the raw data object again.
E.g., early email readers maintained the user's "mailbox" as a simple
ASCII text file. New messages were appended to the end of the file.
When it came time to enumerate the messages or find a particular
message, the program had to parse the ASCII text sequentially knowing
the form that a message took so that it could identify the start
(and end) of each individual message.
If you were handed that ASCII file and asked "How many messages does
this contain", you would have to parse the file sequentially, knowing
the format of mail messages (in detail!) and count them.
If, instead, you have a table called "mail" with fields called
"From", "To", "Date", "Body", etc. then it's easy to determine
how many messages you have (count) or locate the most recent message
from "Bob", etc. The application can concentrate on the service(s)
that it wants to provide instead of having to be encumbered with
the trivialities of parsing message formats.
[Parsers are rife with opportunity for coding errors -- especially
those coded ad hoc!]
--don
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Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
> From: bexley...@yahoo.com
> To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
> >
> Thinking (entirely) *in* metric doesn't. The problem is working
> with *both*, simultaneously, requires some mental agility.
>
> Nearby, we have one of the few (only?) stretches of roadway that
> is marked in metric units (actually, I haven't driven it in a while
> and vaguely recall something about RE-marking it in "conventional"
> units). To most folks, it is a disturbing experience as they aren't
> accustomed to thinking in these. ("No, that's not 100MPH but
> 100kmph... big difference!")MG>Posted Speed limit in the mahority of limited
> access highways in SouthAmerica is 100
MG>unless of course ...you're in a hurry
>
>
> > so...why doesn't Postgres port to embedded systems?
>
> IME, it requires lots of resources (the vast majority of embedded
> systems are resource starved -- resources == $$ and when you are
> selling things in volume, every penny saved adds up quickly!).
> Lots of MIPS, lots of RAM -- even the code footprint is "significant".
>
> OTOH, (again, IME) designing with the "relational table" construct
> makes coding a very different experience! Already being biased
> in favor of table-driven algorithms, I took this opportunity to
> move all the "const" tables out of my executables and into the
> DBMS (which takes a performance hit but keeps the code much more
> mutable). I've gone so far as to hide the filesystem from the
> applications -- objects that would have typically resided in
> ad hoc files are now stored in structured tables (eliminates
> the need to write lots of special parsers to be able to impose
> structure on what would otherwise be unstructured "bytes")
> MG>so do you reduce CPU or IO when you take a java variable final int foo=1;
> and insert foo as a const column in a table?
MG>BTW Spring IOC has addressed this issue with lazy-init="true" (dont
initialise the variable until referenced at runtime)
>
> --donMG>Martin
>
>
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Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Hi Martin,
[apologies if msg reference chain mangled -- forgot to Cc list <:-( ]
On 12/26/2012 2:04 PM, Martin Gainty wrote:
most of us in the US choose to be *delightfully ignorant* of
anything that doesnt fit into our 30 seconds (or less) lifestyle
"30 seconds"? Seems an *eternity* for most of the folks I meet!
(i.e., if you haven't answered your cell phone by the *second*
ring, the followup text message -- "Where are you?" -- is *delivered*
in that time frame!)
Sheesh! How can people live like this?? Can you spell "short leash"?
metric system requires rudimentary math skills instead of
entertainment so we collectively choose not to think of such things
Thinking (entirely) *in* metric doesn't. The problem is working
with *both*, simultaneously, requires some mental agility.
Nearby, we have one of the few (only?) stretches of roadway that
is marked in metric units (actually, I haven't driven it in a while
and vaguely recall something about RE-marking it in "conventional"
units). To most folks, it is a disturbing experience as they aren't
accustomed to thinking in these. ("No, that's not 100MPH but
100kmph... big difference!")
OTOH, working entirely within the "english" system is significantly
taxing if you want to deal with more than one unit of measure at
a time. Feet/miles/yards/inches. Gills/gallons/pints. etc.
I'm tickled that I've got a 1/3C measuring cup and a 1/4T (not 't')
measuring spoon (I bake a lot). Otherwise, it's a real chore
hitting some of these "odd" measurements!
[The idea of *weighing* ingredients is anathema to me -- and I
can't imagine it would be as expedient as using "fixed volumes"!]
I spent 3 months outside the US this year and was *forced* to use
my brain to convert petrol containers from liters to US gallons
It was nice to be able to come back to the US to put your brain
*in park* and let the big brains in the statehouses and Washington
tell us -what to do and -provide us the funding to do their bidding
at least until 1 Jan 2013!
so...why doesn't Postgres port to embedded systems?
IME, it requires lots of resources (the vast majority of embedded
systems are resource starved -- resources == $$ and when you are
selling things in volume, every penny saved adds up quickly!).
Lots of MIPS, lots of RAM -- even the code footprint is "significant".
OTOH, (again, IME) designing with the "relational table" construct
makes coding a very different experience! Already being biased
in favor of table-driven algorithms, I took this opportunity to
move all the "const" tables out of my executables and into the
DBMS (which takes a performance hit but keeps the code much more
mutable). I've gone so far as to hide the filesystem from the
applications -- objects that would have typically resided in
ad hoc files are now stored in structured tables (eliminates
the need to write lots of special parsers to be able to impose
structure on what would otherwise be unstructured "bytes")
[This last issue owes nothing to pgsql, though, as any RDBMS
can provide that structure/capability]
We'll see... it's been a learning experience (make
one to throw away)
--don
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Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Hi Gavin, [apologies if msg reference chain mangled -- forgot to Cc list <:-( ] On 12/26/2012 12:45 PM, Gavin Flower wrote: I have a close friend who is working on embedded software for a green house controller. He would love to use PostgreSQL, but they started using SQLite and pg does not appear to be suitable for embedded systems. I'll second that! Though, to be fair, there is a wide range of applications that "embedded" can address. The resources that are available to one may be (several!) orders of magnitude different than others. I am currently using pgsql in an embedded system though suspect I may have to port everything over to another engine for deployment. There are too many assumptions made about the underlying hardware available for pgsql that are at odds with the goals of most embedded systems. (e.g., I need to be able to have the DB reside in "immutable" memory -- and the "writable" memory requirements carefully constrained) So, "cleverer" solutions end up prevailing. A pity as a single embedded system deployment probably puts more "seats" in play (e.g., easily 10,000 - 1,000,000 per design) than *years* of "natural growth" would, otherwise. --don -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 02:45:18PM -0500, Berend Tober wrote: > I guess I was hoping for more practical, direct insight, such as > "Despite how skilled and a productive worker you might be, don't > bother applying if you are anywhere near middle-age, or if you are > likely to become middle-aged." There was this interesting 1976 movie > called "Logan's Run" about a dystopian future that similarly > devalued the experienced. If it's like the Australian system then there several different categories you can come in on. A way it look at it is that you can come if you can demonstrate that you will not require welfare support, either by bringing enough money with you or having skill in some area where there is demand. But then there's an exception for people under 30 who are unlikely to have been able to build anything up yet, you assume that if they have any kind of degree then they will pay for themselves in the long run. > I wonder, if an applicant were within the government-approved age > range, but then worked long enough so as to exceed the limits, would > their work visa suddenly be withdrawn, having contributed to the tax > base and maybe established a family there, then be forced to vacate > the premise simply because they aged out? In my experience, as long as you're working there's never a problem (assuming your visa allows you to work). Marrying an Australian has to be one of the more common ways to get permanent residency, since that is one of the easier ways. I've never heard of anything like the weird cases you get with those American green cards. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > He who writes carelessly confesses thereby at the very outset that he does > not attach much importance to his own thoughts. -- Arthur Schopenhauer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 12/26/2012 11:45 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: I have a close friend who is working on embedded software for a green house controller. He would love to use PostgreSQL, but they started using SQLite and pg does not appear to be suitable for embedded systems. We used a controller system that came from across the border in White Rock, BC. As a thought problem I contemplated what it would take to replicate it in Open Source software. Came to the same conclusion. I could see Postgres on a computer somewhere tying together multiple controllers/sites. For the controllers themselves Sqlite or something even more light weight would be in order. Hardware constraints are less of an issue than before. It is more an issue of setup/integration and the realization that Postgres would really be overkill for the task at hand. Cheers, Gavin -- Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
most of us in the US choose to be *delightfully ignorant* of anything that doesnt fit into our 30 seconds (or less) lifestyle metric system requires rudimentary math skills instead of entertainment so we collectively choose not to think of such things I spent 3 months outside the US this year and was *forced* to use my brain to convert petrol containers from liters to US gallons It was nice to be able to come back to the US to put your brain *in park* and let the big brains in the statehouses and Washington tell us -what to do and -provide us the funding to do their bidding at least until 1 Jan 2013! so...why doesn't Postgres port to embedded systems? Martin Gainty __ ...place long-winded disclaimer here... Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:45:22 +1300 From: gavinflo...@archidevsys.co.nz To: adrian.kla...@gmail.com CC: mgai...@hotmail.com; pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy On 27/12/12 08:33, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 11:20 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: On 27/12/12 07:39, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 10:30 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: Please do not top post! In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. Actually we do, we just pretend we don't:) Cheers, Gavin Actually, I learnt the metric system mostly from an American textbook on Physics at high school in year 12 (then called 6th form for us). In a round about way, I came to use Postgres to help deal with our split personality regarding the metric system. I was working at a greenhouse at the time and new rules came down from the Federal government dealing with the tagging of plant material for retail sale. One of the rules was that the tags must list the volume of the container the plant was sold in and that the volume should be in both imperial and metric units. This was just the tip of the iceberg, so I put together a database solution to track all the necessary information. After some false starts I settled on Postgres as the back end. In New Zealand, we spend a lot more time putting down Australians than Americans - but if anyone was to try and invade Australia, then the half of New Zealanders not already living in Australia would rush to defend it. Sort of the way we look at Canadians, especially since half of BC seems to be in town at the moment. There is nothing wrong with prejudice, so long as it does not interfere with business & friendship! (I would steer clear of my wife's husband, as he has a perverse sense of humour so he can't be trusted!) I have a close friend who is working on embedded software for a green house controller. He would love to use PostgreSQL, but they started using SQLite and pg does not appear to be suitable for embedded systems. Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 27/12/12 08:33, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 11:20 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: On 27/12/12 07:39, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 10:30 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: Please do not top post! In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. Actually we do, we just pretend we don't:) Cheers, Gavin Actually, I learnt the metric system mostly from an American textbook on Physics at high school in year 12 (then called 6th form for us). In a round about way, I came to use Postgres to help deal with our split personality regarding the metric system. I was working at a greenhouse at the time and new rules came down from the Federal government dealing with the tagging of plant material for retail sale. One of the rules was that the tags must list the volume of the container the plant was sold in and that the volume should be in both imperial and metric units. This was just the tip of the iceberg, so I put together a database solution to track all the necessary information. After some false starts I settled on Postgres as the back end. In New Zealand, we spend a lot more time putting down Australians than Americans - but if anyone was to try and invade Australia, then the half of New Zealanders not already living in Australia would rush to defend it. Sort of the way we look at Canadians, especially since half of BC seems to be in town at the moment. There is nothing wrong with prejudice, so long as it does not interfere with business & friendship! (I would steer clear of my wife's husband, as he has a perverse sense of humour so he can't be trusted!) I have a close friend who is working on embedded software for a green house controller. He would love to use PostgreSQL, but they started using SQLite and pg does not appear to be suitable for embedded systems. Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Gavin Flower wrote: On 27/12/12 07:54, Berend Tober wrote: ...regarding New Zealand expatriate work visas and ... that it was notably easier for foreigners under age 30 to get permission to work. Can anyone with direct experience comment on this government-sanctioned discrimination? I think it might be that they want healthy workers who likely will pay lots of tax before requiring to much medical treatment - most people use the public health care system in New Zealand, so it as assumed you will not be relying on private medical insurance. That would be an obvious-enough inference to draw. I guess I was hoping for more practical, direct insight, such as "Despite how skilled and a productive worker you might be, don't bother applying if you are anywhere near middle-age, or if you are likely to become middle-aged." There was this interesting 1976 movie called "Logan's Run" about a dystopian future that similarly devalued the experienced. The current job posting by Brent Wood does not specifically mention age requirements/restrictions, and does not specify any particular amount of experience, but they do in fact require "experience". Knowing that the visa quota system is biased against age, one might reasonably conclude that no one with more than 5 to 10 years experience would be able to qualify because of the government restrictions. It might have been polite of the advertising organization to make that clear, as did the guy that posted the flyer at the technical conference. I wonder, if an applicant were within the government-approved age range, but then worked long enough so as to exceed the limits, would their work visa suddenly be withdrawn, having contributed to the tax base and maybe established a family there, then be forced to vacate the premise simply because they aged out? -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 12/26/2012 11:20 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: On 27/12/12 07:39, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 10:30 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: Please do not top post! In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. Actually we do, we just pretend we don't:) Cheers, Gavin Actually, I learnt the metric system mostly from an American textbook on Physics at high school in year 12 (then called 6th form for us). In a round about way, I came to use Postgres to help deal with our split personality regarding the metric system. I was working at a greenhouse at the time and new rules came down from the Federal government dealing with the tagging of plant material for retail sale. One of the rules was that the tags must list the volume of the container the plant was sold in and that the volume should be in both imperial and metric units. This was just the tip of the iceberg, so I put together a database solution to track all the necessary information. After some false starts I settled on Postgres as the back end. In New Zealand, we spend a lot more time putting down Australians than Americans - but if anyone was to try and invade Australia, then the half of New Zealanders not already living in Australia would rush to defend it. Sort of the way we look at Canadians, especially since half of BC seems to be in town at the moment. Cheers, Gavin -- Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 27/12/12 07:39, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 12/26/2012 10:30 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: Please do not top post! In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. Actually we do, we just pretend we don't:) Cheers, Gavin Actually, I learnt the metric system mostly from an American textbook on Physics at high school in year 12 (then called 6th form for us). In New Zealand, we spend a lot more time putting down Australians than Americans - but if anyone was to try and invade Australia, then the half of New Zealanders not already living in Australia would rush to defend it. Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 27/12/12 07:54, Berend Tober wrote: pcr...@pcreso.com wrote: Mat be of interest to someone here... http://careers.eroad.co.nz/vacancies/showVacancy/11 Brent Wood I attended a technical conference in the US recently, and someone posted an Auckland job flyer (not this same organization, though). He included a statement regarding New Zealand expatriate work visas and something about government bias against more experienced workers. He did not phrase it like that literally, of course, but rather emphasized that it was notably easier for foreigners under age 30 to get permission to work. Can anyone with direct experience comment on this government-sanctioned discrimination? I think it might be that they want healthy workers who likely will pay lots of tax before requiring to much medical treatment - most people use the public health care system in New Zealand, so it as assumed you will not be relying on private medical insurance. If any PostgreSQL people are coming to Auckland, I may be able to put them up for a short time - depending on consultation with 'she who must be obeyed'. :-) We live off the Albany Highway on the North Shore. Our son (15) has been a 'travel consultant' since the age of 5, he is able to give good advice on both local and international travel! Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
pcr...@pcreso.com wrote: Mat be of interest to someone here... http://careers.eroad.co.nz/vacancies/showVacancy/11 Brent Wood I attended a technical conference in the US recently, and someone posted an Auckland job flyer (not this same organization, though). He included a statement regarding New Zealand expatriate work visas and something about government bias against more experienced workers. He did not phrase it like that literally, of course, but rather emphasized that it was notably easier for foreigners under age 30 to get permission to work. Can anyone with direct experience comment on this government-sanctioned discrimination? -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 12/26/2012 10:30 AM, Gavin Flower wrote: Please do not top post! In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. Actually we do, we just pretend we don't:) Cheers, Gavin -- Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Please do not top post! See my reply below On 27/12/12 03:48, Martin Gainty wrote: Gavin BTW: Americans dont walk anywhere ..we drive our 2 gallons to the mile Hummers everywhere we go (so Im hoping that gas is cheap there) I dont know anything about New Zealand but can one live on South Island and work on North Island and or vice-versa? [...] Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:17:23 +1300 From: gavinflo...@archidevsys.co.nz To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy On 25/12/12 09:46, pcr...@pcreso.com <mailto:pcr...@pcreso.com> wrote: Mat be of interest to someone here... http://careers.eroad.co.nz/vacancies/showVacancy/11 Brent Wood I know some people in Auckland who do PostgreSQL, I've emailed them about it. Curiously, EROAD's head office is about an hours walk from where I live! Cheers, Gavin In New Zealand we generally use petrol, or diesel, measured in litres - though there are some cars powered by natural gas. I think the USA is one of the few places not using the metric system. There are some people who have their family home in the South Island and work in the North, generally they stay in the North during the week and fly back for weekends. Contrary to what you may have been told, you don't (yet) need a passport to go between the 2 Islands. I normally work from home, but sometimes go into the university for meetings and seminars - a trip by bus of about 2 hours. Both places in Auckland city. To bring this back on topic: I plan to use PostgreSQL for the backend of the software I am developing... Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
Gavin BTW: Americans dont walk anywhere ..we drive our 2 gallons to the mile Hummers everywhere we go (so Im hoping that gas is cheap there) I dont know anything about New Zealand but can one live on South Island and work on North Island and or vice-versa? Ich spreche kein Arabisch Martin Gainty __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:17:23 +1300 From: gavinflo...@archidevsys.co.nz To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy On 25/12/12 09:46, pcr...@pcreso.com wrote: Mat be of interest to someone here... http://careers.eroad.co.nz/vacancies/showVacancy/11 Brent Wood I know some people in Auckland who do PostgreSQL, I've emailed them about it. Curiously, EROAD's head office is about an hours walk from where I live! Cheers, Gavin
Re: [GENERAL] New Zealand Postgis DBA job vacancy
On 25/12/12 09:46, pcr...@pcreso.com wrote: Mat be of interest to someone here... http://careers.eroad.co.nz/vacancies/showVacancy/11 Brent Wood I know some people in Auckland who do PostgreSQL, I've emailed them about it. Curiously, EROAD's head office is about an hours walk from where I live! Cheers, Gavin
