Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-02-01 Thread Christopher Browne
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 Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres
 7.4 or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are
 there asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?  

 Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?

The ability to have Lots of Memory is a BIG help; the Intel Xeon
platform maxxes out at 8GB, and in practice at more like 4GB,
whereas AMD64 supports _way_ more than that along with a much faster
memory bus than you get with Xeon.

We're finding that Opteron is way faster than similarly numbered Xeon
systems.

The challenge you may find is in what high end disk controllers are
supported; many of them only offer 32 bit DMA...
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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-02-01 Thread William Yu
Guy Rouillier wrote:
NTPT wrote:
Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres
7.4 or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are
there asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?  

Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?

PG 8 works fine on 64-bit Linux running on AMD64.  So I wouldn't stay on
a 32-bit platform for that reason.  You are aware, of course, that
Opteron is better equipped than Athlon64 for memory-intensive tasks:
dual channel memory, (usually) more on-chip cache, etc.  Don't have any
hard benchmark numbers, but AMD claims about a 15% general performance
improvement switching from 32-bit to 64-bit.
Actually, A64s come in multiple flavors -- single channel, dual channel, 
512KB L2, 1MB L2. The fastest A64 FXs are actually faster than their 
corresponding Opteron cousins because not only do they have the same 2x 
memory channel and 1MB cache -- but their unbuffered memory has lower 
latency than registered memory that Opterons must use.

Of course, I wouldn't run a server without registered ECC memory so the 
point is moot anyways. Plus you are limited to much less memory using 
unbuffered memory.

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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-01-31 Thread P.J. \Josh\ Rovero
It runs fine, and is quite peppy an Fedora Core 2 for AMD 64.
I have not run into any problems.
NTPT wrote:
Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres 7.4 
or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are there 
asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?  
 
 
Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?
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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-01-31 Thread Abdul-Wahid Paterson
Hi,

I have been running a 2Gb database for about 3 months now on my AMD64
bit and have been very happy with the peformance and stability. I am
running it under Gentoo.

I don't have any particular benchmarks and only my own testing of our
company scripts. I have been very impressed with the performance.

Regards,

Abdul-Wahid


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:44:14 +0100, NTPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres 7.4 or
 postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are there asome
 benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?   
   
   
 Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ? 
   
 Thanx for help

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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-01-31 Thread NTPT
So postgresql can  have benfit from 64 bit architecture ? 

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To: NTPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?


It runs fine, and is quite peppy an Fedora Core 2 for AMD 64.
I have not run into any problems.
NTPT wrote:
Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres 7.4 
or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are there 
asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?  
 
 
Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?
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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-01-31 Thread Joshua D. Drake
NTPT wrote:
So postgresql can  have benfit from 64 bit architecture ?
Yes quite.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
- Original Message - From: P.J. Josh Rovero 
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To: NTPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'PgSql General' pgsql-general@postgresql.org
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?


It runs fine, and is quite peppy an Fedora Core 2 for AMD 64.
I have not run into any problems.
NTPT wrote:
Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres 
7.4 or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are 
there asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?   
 
Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.sonalysts.com215 Parkway North
Work: (860)326-3671 or 442-4355 Waterford CT 06385
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Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql and Athlon64 ?

2005-01-31 Thread Guy Rouillier
NTPT wrote:
 Will I have some advantages, better performance etc using postgres
 7.4 or postgres 8.x on Athlon64 system with 64 bit Linux distro ?Are
 there asome benchmark available or someone  personal experience ?  
 
 
 Or should I stay in 32 bit platform  for a while ?

PG 8 works fine on 64-bit Linux running on AMD64.  So I wouldn't stay on
a 32-bit platform for that reason.  You are aware, of course, that
Opteron is better equipped than Athlon64 for memory-intensive tasks:
dual channel memory, (usually) more on-chip cache, etc.  Don't have any
hard benchmark numbers, but AMD claims about a 15% general performance
improvement switching from 32-bit to 64-bit.

-- 
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