Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
"Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I'm using Centos 5. >> >> Um ... Red Hat, who are about as conservative as they come on this type >> of issue, shipped PG 8.1.x in RHEL 5. Which benighted PHB decreed that >> you should be using 7.4.x? > We're using a shared hosting database service. They were using 7.4 > when we first started using them and they haven't upgraded unless we > pay them to. We are their only pg customer. I'm confused. They updated you to RHEL5, but not to the application packages that Red Hat ships on RHEL5? (I'm not sure why you'd want to run a PG-based service on a provider who so obviously has got zero knowledge, competence, or interest in PG, but anyway.) regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Chris Velevitch > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In the mean time, which download has only the 7.4 utils and can that > >> be installed without removing my 8.1 utils. > > > I'm using Centos 5. > > Um ... Red Hat, who are about as conservative as they come on this type > of issue, shipped PG 8.1.x in RHEL 5. Which benighted PHB decreed that > you should be using 7.4.x? We're using a shared hosting database service. They were using 7.4 when we first started using them and they haven't upgraded unless we pay them to. We are their only pg customer. > > regards, tom lane > -- Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group April meeting: TBD Date: Mon 28th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details soon -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
"Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Chris Velevitch > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In the mean time, which download has only the 7.4 utils and can that >> be installed without removing my 8.1 utils. > I'm using Centos 5. Um ... Red Hat, who are about as conservative as they come on this type of issue, shipped PG 8.1.x in RHEL 5. Which benighted PHB decreed that you should be using 7.4.x? regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Chris Velevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the mean time, which download has only the 7.4 utils and can that > be installed without removing my 8.1 utils. I'm using Centos 5. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group April meeting: TBD Date: Mon 28th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details soon -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Colin Wetherbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're moving from 7.4.7 to 7.4.13, why don't you use the 7.4 utilities? > The 8.1 utilities assume 8.1 defaults, which can be quite different from 7.4 > defaults and, IIRC, are responsible for your OID issue. I've been using 8.1 to dump from 7.4 to restore into an 8.1 server for backup purposes. Now I've been told that I need to move my database to another server which 7.4.13. I see about getting it upgraded. In the mean time, which download has only the 7.4 utils and can that be installed without removing my 8.1 utils. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group April meeting: TBD Date: Mon 28th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details soon -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
Chris Velevitch wrote: I'm transferring a database from 7.4.7 to 7.4.13 using 8.1.11 utilities and pg_dump leaves out the "without oids" clause in the create table commands. I've confirmed the original tables are created without oids by using pgadmin3 v1.8.2. How do I get the table created without oids? If you're moving from 7.4.7 to 7.4.13, why don't you use the 7.4 utilities? The 8.1 utilities assume 8.1 defaults, which can be quite different from 7.4 defaults and, IIRC, are responsible for your OID issue. If you really must use 8.1 utilities, edit your dump file and append WITHOUT OIDS to your CREATE TABLE statements. Also, FWIW, 7.4.19 is the latest release of the 7.4 series, and you really should be using that, if you're sticking with the now-very-old 7.4 version. Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group March AIR and SQLite Date: Wed 26th March 6pm for 6:30 start Details soon That looks to be a bit out of date, too. :) Colin -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump ignoring without oids
"Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm transferring a database from 7.4.7 to 7.4.13 using 8.1.11 > utilities Why in the world would you try that, rather than using 7.4's pg_dump? At no time has pg_dump version N claimed to produce output that was loadable into server versions < N. > and pg_dump leaves out the "without oids" clause in the > create table commands. 8.1 thinks it should use "SET default_with_oids = false" instead. (Should I point out that the current release in the 7.4 series is 7.4.19? 7.4.13 is nearly a year and a half obsolete, and is missing significant security and data-loss fixes.) regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
