Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-07-03 Thread Stuart Ford
On 24/06/2013 19:20, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 06:03:40PM +, Stuart Ford wrote:

 
 Do you know if not running this script would explain the fact that our
 dump file sizes have been much smaller than expected?

It might be possible if lack of pg_largeobject_metadata values causes
your large objects not to be dumped;  I have not tested this.

This did turn out to be the case in the end, FYI. Dump sizes returned to
normal after the permissions were created.

Many thanks for your assistance, much appreciated.

Stuart


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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:13:08AM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
 Dear community
 
 Last week we upgraded our database from 8.4 to 9.1. The upgrade seemed to
 go fine and the database seems to have been working fine ever since
 (around a week now).
 
 However, today I noticed the output from the pg_upgrade command contained
 the following:
 
 | Your installation contains large objects.
 | The new database has an additional large object
 | permission table so default permissions must be
 | defined for all large objects.  The file:
 | /tmp/pg_largeobject.sql
 | when executed by psql by the database super-user
 | will define the default permissions.
 
 I missed this at the time, my fault, it was at the end of a stressful
 migration evening.
 
 Is it safe to run this script now, a week in to using the upgraded
 database? Can this be done while the database is live?

Sure, you can run it anytime.  Until you run it your large object
permissions might not be accurate.

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 08:51:46AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:13:08AM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
  Dear community
  
  Last week we upgraded our database from 8.4 to 9.1. The upgrade seemed to
  go fine and the database seems to have been working fine ever since
  (around a week now).
  
  However, today I noticed the output from the pg_upgrade command contained
  the following:
  
  | Your installation contains large objects.
  | The new database has an additional large object
  | permission table so default permissions must be
  | defined for all large objects.  The file:
  |   /tmp/pg_largeobject.sql
  | when executed by psql by the database super-user
  | will define the default permissions.
  
  I missed this at the time, my fault, it was at the end of a stressful
  migration evening.
  
  Is it safe to run this script now, a week in to using the upgraded
  database? Can this be done while the database is live?
 
 Sure, you can run it anytime.  Until you run it your large object
 permissions might not be accurate.

Looking further, here is the command that is executed:

SELECT pg_catalog.lo_create(t.loid)
FROM (SELECT DISTINCT loid FROM pg_catalog.pg_largeobject) AS t;

If you have created _new_ large objects since the upgrde, the script
might throw an error, as there is already metadata for those large
objects.  You might need to delete the rows in pg_largeobject_metadata
before running the script;  this will reset all the large object
permissions to default.

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Ford
On 24/06/2013 14:00, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:



Looking further, here is the command that is executed:

   SELECT pg_catalog.lo_create(t.loid)
   FROM (SELECT DISTINCT loid FROM pg_catalog.pg_largeobject) AS t;

If you have created _new_ large objects since the upgrde, the script
might throw an error, as there is already metadata for those large
objects.  You might need to delete the rows in pg_largeobject_metadata
before running the script;  this will reset all the large object
permissions to default.

There doesn't appear to be, if this command, which returns 0, is correct:

select count(*) from pg_catalog.pg_largeobject_metadata ;

So it's OK to go ahead and run at any time?

Stuart


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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 03:25:44PM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
 On 24/06/2013 14:00, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 
 
 
 Looking further, here is the command that is executed:
 
  SELECT pg_catalog.lo_create(t.loid)
  FROM (SELECT DISTINCT loid FROM pg_catalog.pg_largeobject) AS t;
 
 If you have created _new_ large objects since the upgrde, the script
 might throw an error, as there is already metadata for those large
 objects.  You might need to delete the rows in pg_largeobject_metadata
 before running the script;  this will reset all the large object
 permissions to default.
 
 There doesn't appear to be, if this command, which returns 0, is correct:
 
 select count(*) from pg_catalog.pg_largeobject_metadata ;
 
 So it's OK to go ahead and run at any time?

Yep.  If it fails for some reason, just delete the contents of
pg_largeobject_metadata and run it again.

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Ford
On 24/06/2013 17:18, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 03:25:44PM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
 On 24/06/2013 14:00, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 
 
 
 Looking further, here is the command that is executed:
 
 SELECT pg_catalog.lo_create(t.loid)
 FROM (SELECT DISTINCT loid FROM pg_catalog.pg_largeobject) AS t;
 
 If you have created _new_ large objects since the upgrde, the script
 might throw an error, as there is already metadata for those large
 objects.  You might need to delete the rows in pg_largeobject_metadata
 before running the script;  this will reset all the large object
 permissions to default.
 
 There doesn't appear to be, if this command, which returns 0, is
correct:
 
 select count(*) from pg_catalog.pg_largeobject_metadata ;
 
 So it's OK to go ahead and run at any time?

Yep.  If it fails for some reason, just delete the contents of
pg_largeobject_metadata and run it again.

Do you know if not running this script would explain the fact that our
dump file sizes have been much smaller than expected?

Stuart


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Re: [GENERAL] pg_largeobject.sql script not run after upgrade

2013-06-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 06:03:40PM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
 On 24/06/2013 17:18, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 03:25:44PM +, Stuart Ford wrote:
  On 24/06/2013 14:00, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
  
  
  
  Looking further, here is the command that is executed:
  
SELECT pg_catalog.lo_create(t.loid)
FROM (SELECT DISTINCT loid FROM pg_catalog.pg_largeobject) AS t;
  
  If you have created _new_ large objects since the upgrde, the script
  might throw an error, as there is already metadata for those large
  objects.  You might need to delete the rows in pg_largeobject_metadata
  before running the script;  this will reset all the large object
  permissions to default.
  
  There doesn't appear to be, if this command, which returns 0, is
 correct:
  
  select count(*) from pg_catalog.pg_largeobject_metadata ;
  
  So it's OK to go ahead and run at any time?
 
 Yep.  If it fails for some reason, just delete the contents of
 pg_largeobject_metadata and run it again.
 
 Do you know if not running this script would explain the fact that our
 dump file sizes have been much smaller than expected?

It might be possible if lack of pg_largeobject_metadata values causes
your large objects not to be dumped;  I have not tested this.

-- 
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  EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

  + It's impossible for everything to be true. +


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