Re: anybody know who the damn list owner is? RE: [GENERAL] Postgresqlism Vacuum?

2000-04-14 Thread Ed Loehr

"Oelkers, Phil" wrote:
 
 I've been trying to get off this list forever no luck.

See instructions at http://www.PostgreSQL.ORG/mhonarc/pgsql-general/



Re: anybody know who the damn list owner is? RE: [GENERAL] Postgresqlism Vacuum?

2000-04-14 Thread Andy Lewis

For starters I head over to www.postgresql.org

Then I'd probably click on the "Info Central" link and then the "Mailing
lists" link.

From there I'd click on the list that I was subscribed to under "Mailing
List Archives"

Then I'd read the info at the top of the page.

Those pages haven't really changed in content in years



On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Oelkers, Phil wrote:

 I've been trying to get off this list forever no luck.  I thought 
 I got the damn thing set to nomail, still get mail.  
 
 DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN CONTACT A
 LIKE PERSON TO GET OFF THIS DAMN LIST?
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Peter Eisentraut [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Friday, April 14, 2000 6:59 AM
  To: Thomas
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: [GENERAL] Postgresqlism  Vacuum?
  
  On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Thomas wrote:
  
   I think there must be something wrong with the optimiser that it's
   "postgresqlism" that you must vacuum analyze frequently.
  
  One thing that is not widely known is that vacuum actually has two
  orthogonal tasks: garbage collection and statistics collection (only when 
  you ANALYZE). The fact that this is combined in one command is a
  historical artifact, and there are some voices that want to separate the
  commands.
  
  The way I see it, if you have enough disk space you never have to run
  vacuum to garbage collect. It might lead to obvious problems when the heap
  files get so large that it takes more time to physically access them. The
  alternative is to garbage collect on each transaction commit but that
  bears its own set of performance implications.
  
  The analyze part would probably not need an exclusive lock on the table
  but the vacuum certainly does.
  
  
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