Re: Code of Conduct

2018-09-19 Thread ERR ORR
I was never consulted.
I was only Told that there was a CoC "to be". Not when, not how.
A CoC will inevitably lead to the project taken over by leftists, political
and technical decisions will be made by others.
Most important from my PoV, the projects quality will decrease until its
made unviable.
As others have said, this was rammed down our throats.
Before you ppl become unemployed, read "SJWs always lie". You'll know what
awaits you.
As for myself, I'll be on the lookout for another DB. One that's not
infiltrated by leftist nuts.

And Dave, you can tell the core team a big "FUCK YOU" for this.

James Keener  schrieb am Di., 18. Sep. 2018, 13:48:

> > following a long consultation process
>
> It's not a consultation if any dissenting voice is simply ignored. Don't
> sugar-coat or politicize it like this -- it was rammed down everyone's
> throats. That is core's right, but don't act as everyone's opinions and
> concerns were taken into consideration. There are a good number of folks
> who are concerned that this CoC is overreaching and is ripe for abuse.
> Those concerns were always simply, plainly, and purposely ignored.
>
> > Please take time to read and understand the CoC, which is intended to
> ensure that PostgreSQL remains an open and enjoyable project for anyone to
> join and participate in.
>
> I sincerely hope so, and that it doesn't become a tool to enforce social
> ideology like in other groups I've been part of. Especially since this is
> the main place to come to get help for PostgreSQL and not a social club.
>
> Jim
>
> On September 18, 2018 6:27:56 AM EDT, Dave Page 
> wrote:
>>
>> The PostgreSQL Core team are pleased to announce that following a long
>> consultation process, the project’s Code of Conduct (CoC) has now been
>> finalised and published at https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/coc/
>> .
>>
>> Please take time to read and understand the CoC, which is intended to
>> ensure that PostgreSQL remains an open and enjoyable project for anyone to
>> join and participate in.
>>
>> A Code of Conduct Committee has been formed to handle any complaints.
>> This consists of the following volunteers:
>>
>> - Stacey Haysler (Chair)
>> - Lætitia Avrot
>> - Vik Fearing
>> - Jonathan Katz
>> - Ilya Kosmodemiansky
>>
>> We would like to extend our thanks and gratitude to Stacey Haysler for
>> her patience and expertise in helping develop the Code of Conduct, forming
>> the committee and guiding the work to completion.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> PostgreSQL Core Team
>> http://www.postgresql.org/
>> 
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>


Re: Code of Conduct plan

2018-09-19 Thread ERR ORR
I see a CoC as an infiltration of the PostgreSQL community which has worked
OK since at least 10 years.
The project owners have let their care slacken.
I request that the project owners EXPEL/EXCOMMUNICATE ALL those who are
advancing what can only be seen as an instrument for harassing members of a
to-date peaceful and cordial community.

THROW THESE LEFTIST BULLIES OUT‼️

Dimitri Maziuk  schrieb am Mo., 17. Sep. 2018, 19:21:

> On 09/17/2018 10:39 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:28 PM Joshua D. Drake 
> > wrote:
> ...
> >> My feedback is that those two sentences provide an overarching authority
> >> that .Org does not have the right to enforce
> ...
> > Fascinating that this would, on its face, not apply to a harassment
> > campaign carried out over twitter, but it would apply to a few comments
> > made over drinks at a bar.
>
> There is a flip side: if you have written standards, you can be held
> liable for not enforcing them. Potentially including enforcement of
> twitbook AUP on the list subscribers who also have a slackogger account.
>
> --
> Dimitri Maziuk
> Programmer/sysadmin
> BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
>
>