Re: Options to rowwise persist result of stable/immutable function with RECORD result

2023-03-23 Thread Eske Rahn
Hi,

Thanks for the quick answer *:-D*

That was a nice sideeffect of lateral.

In the example, the calling code also gets simplified:

WITH x AS (
  SELECT clock_timestamp() rowstart, *, clock_timestamp() rowend FROM (
SELECT '1' inp UNION
SELECT '2'
  ) y,  LATERAL septima.foo(inp) g
)
SELECT * FROM x;


That solved the issue at hand, in a much better way. Thanks

Though I still fail to see *why* the other way should generally call the
function for every column in the *result* record - if the function is
STABLE or IMMUTABLE.

BUT as I can not think up a sensible example where LATERAL will *not* do
the trick, so the oddity becomes academic.
So just a thing to remember: *always use lateral with functions with record
result types* - unless they are volatile)




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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:50 PM David G. Johnston <
david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Eske Rahn  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have noticed a rather odd behaviour that is not strictly a bug, but is
>> unexpected.
>>
>> It is when a immutable (or stable) PG function is returning results in a
>> record structure a select on these calls the function repeatedly for each
>> element in the output record.
>>
>
> The LATERAL join modifier exists to handle this kind of situation.
>
> David J.
>
>


Re: Options to rowwise persist result of stable/immutable function with RECORD result

2023-03-22 Thread David G. Johnston
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:46 PM David G. Johnston <
david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:32 PM Eske Rahn  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick answer *:-D*
>>
>> That was a nice sideeffect of lateral.
>>
>> In the example, the calling code also gets simplified:
>>
>> WITH x AS (
>>   SELECT clock_timestamp() rowstart, *, clock_timestamp() rowend FROM (
>> SELECT '1' inp UNION
>> SELECT '2'
>>   ) y,  LATERAL septima.foo(inp) g
>> )
>> SELECT * FROM x;
>>
>>
>> That solved the issue at hand, in a much better way. Thanks
>>
>> Though I still fail to see *why* the other way should generally call the
>> function for every column in the *result* record - if the function is
>> STABLE or IMMUTABLE.
>>
>
> It gets rewritten to be effectively:
>
> select func_call(...).col1, func_call(...).col2, func_call(...).col3
>
> under the assumption that repeating the function call will be cheap and
> side-effect free.  It was never ideal but fixing that form of optimization
> was harder than implementing LATERAL where the multi-column result has a
> natural output in the form of a multi-column table.  A normal function call
> in the target list really means "return a single value" which is at odds
> with writing .* after it.
>
>
Actually, it is less "optimization" and more "SQL is strongly typed and all
columns must be defined during query compilation".

David J.


Re: Options to rowwise persist result of stable/immutable function with RECORD result

2023-03-22 Thread David G. Johnston
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:32 PM Eske Rahn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the quick answer *:-D*
>
> That was a nice sideeffect of lateral.
>
> In the example, the calling code also gets simplified:
>
> WITH x AS (
>   SELECT clock_timestamp() rowstart, *, clock_timestamp() rowend FROM (
> SELECT '1' inp UNION
> SELECT '2'
>   ) y,  LATERAL septima.foo(inp) g
> )
> SELECT * FROM x;
>
>
> That solved the issue at hand, in a much better way. Thanks
>
> Though I still fail to see *why* the other way should generally call the
> function for every column in the *result* record - if the function is
> STABLE or IMMUTABLE.
>

It gets rewritten to be effectively:

select func_call(...).col1, func_call(...).col2, func_call(...).col3

under the assumption that repeating the function call will be cheap and
side-effect free.  It was never ideal but fixing that form of optimization
was harder than implementing LATERAL where the multi-column result has a
natural output in the form of a multi-column table.  A normal function call
in the target list really means "return a single value" which is at odds
with writing .* after it.

David J.


Re: Options to rowwise persist result of stable/immutable function with RECORD result

2023-03-22 Thread David G. Johnston
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Eske Rahn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have noticed a rather odd behaviour that is not strictly a bug, but is
> unexpected.
>
> It is when a immutable (or stable) PG function is returning results in a
> record structure a select on these calls the function repeatedly for each
> element in the output record.
>

The LATERAL join modifier exists to handle this kind of situation.

David J.