Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:42:13 -0300, Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: alvherre> Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: alvherre> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:57:53 +0100, Markus Schiltknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: alvherre> > alvherre> > markus> Uh, yah. But I was refering to the "lots of alvherre> > markus> opinions on what replacement system to use". This alvherre> > markus> has not much to do with the want or need (for lack alvherre> > markus> of a better alternative) to stay with CVS, IMO. alvherre> > alvherre> > Oh, it's an academic discussion? Sorry, didn't catch that. alvherre> alvherre> It's only academic because Monotone is not ready. As soon alvherre> as it is ready we will be pushing much harder. You know, I wasn't trying to push any SCM in particular, even though I did mention monotone in one post. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -- C.S. Lewis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:57:53 +0100, Markus Schiltknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: markus> Uh, yah. But I was refering to the "lots of opinions on what markus> replacement system to use". This has not much to do with the markus> want or need (for lack of a better alternative) to stay with markus> CVS, IMO. Oh, it's an academic discussion? Sorry, didn't catch that. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -- C.S. Lewis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question
If I may, I'll add a few words to this discussion: Basically, I'm seeing that three things need to be decided upon: 1. Do you want to stay with CVS or do you want to move to something else? 2. If you want to move, when? Is now a good time, or is it better to look at it another time. This may be a question of what people you have who'd do the job, what kind of time they have for the moment and so on. 3. What would you want a replacement to be able to do? When those questions are answered and people are behind it, then it's time to look at the different systems and see what' the best match to your desires. So far, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of opinions on what replacement system to use, a bit carelessly before having answered the above questions thoroughly. HTH. Cheers, Richard -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -- C.S. Lewis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:38:26 +0100, Markus Schiltknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: markus> > So far, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of markus> > opinions on what replacement system to use, a bit carelessly markus> > before having answered the above questions thoroughly. markus> markus> How did you get that impression? You said it yourself: Most PostgreSQL developers currently want to stay with CVS. Unless there's a majority that wants to move on, I doubt there will be a move. In the end, it has to be a group effort, or it will simply not happen. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -- C.S. Lewis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:09:48 -0800, "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: jd> I believe that is much more accurate. The reality is, switching to jd> something else will be painful. I would prefer not to be on CVS as jd> well but it would take a lot of work and cvs does what we need it jd> to. I can only tell you my own story, and that's a story of being sick and damn (oh, I've a much stronger word, but I'm too polite to use it here) tired of CVS, especially having had to deal with it's absolute lack of merging capacity. It's taken trying a number of other SCMs, which were all a PITA, until I found monotone, before I decided I had found a worthy replacement. To each his or her own, I say, and as you say, chaging (or "moving on") takes some amount of effort, and you will not do it, as a group, before more or less all (especially any core group) thinks it's worth more than staying with the current system. Cheers, Richard -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -- C.S. Lewis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings