Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information

2006-09-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Subject wrap test, please ignore.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information

2006-09-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 Tom Lane wrote:
  Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did.  I'm surprised
  Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ...
 
 I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't 
 looking. :)  I was glad to get something working at all.  The 
 uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the 
 purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that 
 discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it.

Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro.  Note that the subject is a
single line, not multiple lines.  The subject as sent is:

 Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about 
current SSL


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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Peter Eisentraut wrote:
  Tom Lane wrote:
   Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did.  I'm surprised
   Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ...
  
  I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't 
  looking. :)  I was glad to get something working at all.  The 
  uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the 
  purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that 
  discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it.
 
 Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro.  Note that the subject is a
 single line, not multiple lines.  The subject as sent is:
 
  Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about 
 current SSL

OK, as a reply from the lists I see:

  Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - 
information

which has removed about current SSL.  Interestingly, in the mbox file
I see later emails with the even shorter subject:

  Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

I do see that short subject thread starting with my post.  Would someone
else post with that subject and see what we get?  How do I see the
subject as sendmail is sending it out?

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information

2006-09-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
  sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
  Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
 assignment out of the author.

Test of wrapping of subject.  Ignore.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-15 Thread Bruce Momjian

OK, I just emailed the long subject line to my gmail account, and got
the full text:

  Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

Interestingly, I looked at a copy of the email I sent to start the
truncated subject thread and see in my saved mbox file:

From bruce Sun Sep  3 23:57:49 2006
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
information about current SSL
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Note the newline in the subject.  What confuses me is how that newline
got in there if replying to other email didn't have that problem.  One
thing I did do is to copy text from another email into that email.

---

Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
  Peter Eisentraut wrote:
   Tom Lane wrote:
Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did.  I'm surprised
Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ...
   
   I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't 
   looking. :)  I was glad to get something working at all.  The 
   uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the 
   purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that 
   discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it.
  
  Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro.  Note that the subject is a
  single line, not multiple lines.  The subject as sent is:
  
   Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information 
  about current SSL
 
 OK, as a reply from the lists I see:
 
   Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - 
 information
 
 which has removed about current SSL.  Interestingly, in the mbox file
 I see later emails with the even shorter subject:
 
   Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
 
 I do see that short subject thread starting with my post.  Would someone
 else post with that subject and see what we get?  How do I see the
 subject as sendmail is sending it out?
 
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information

2006-09-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
  sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
  Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
 assignment out of the author.

Test of wrapping of subject, please ignore.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote:
  Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer
  is neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a
  requirement, and individual portions of code are copyrighted by
  their respecitve authors.

This isn't a copyright transfer, but if you just write (C) me 
without anything else then you haven't given any license for anyone 
else to use it.  If we put a uniform copyright statement everywhere, 
then this gives reasonable assurance (as in: we got away with it so 
far) to everyone about the nature of the license and such.  Your name 
is still on record, so you are still the copyright holder under law.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote:
 Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did.  I'm surprised
 Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ...

I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't 
looking. :)  I was glad to get something working at all.  The 
uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the 
purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that 
discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
 sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
 Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
assignment out of the author.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
  sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
  Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a
 copyright assignment out of the author.

Another one of those things that was not evident from the patch queue.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
  sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
  Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
 assignment out of the author.

I got it this morning.  The text they sent was:

  The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the
  PostgreSQL Global Development Group.   Is that OK?  We can still keep
  your name and company at the top.
 
 Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is
 neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and
 individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors.

Thanks.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if
 it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else?

Because every so often we get pestered by lawyers who get worried when
there's a collection of random different copyright notices in the code.

Actually, I don't think there's anything wrong with Copyright Foo Inc
as long as there's also a statement Released under the PostgreSQL
license or equivalent.  The problem here was that with neither that nor
a copyright assignment, there is no clear intent to make the code
available under our license terms.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
  Tom Lane wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
   assignment out of the author.
  
  I got it this morning.  The text they sent was:
  
The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the
PostgreSQL Global Development Group.   Is that OK?  We can still keep
your name and company at the top.
   
   Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is
   neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and
   individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors.
 
 I still don't understand why is the copyright assignment needed at
 all.  Is it even valid, given that the PGDG does not have a written/
 signed document?  At least the FSF requires you to given them a written
 and signed statement to that effect.  And if it's not valid, why bother
 doing it at all?
 
 Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if
 it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else?  We will be able to use
 it regardless of the copyright assignment, as will anyone else.
 
 One point may be that if PGDG doesn't have a Copyright line in the
 header, it can't then automatically increment the year in there when the
 time comes.  Does this have anything to do with it?  It may also have to
 do with when someone from PGDG fixes a bug in that code.

[ Patch author added as CC.]

I think we just felt that an explicit copyright to someone else in our
code could be confusing.  I don't believe there is any fundamental
reason to remove it, but it just seems best to do that.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Alvaro Herrera wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Tom Lane wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes:
 sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
 Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright
 assignment out of the author.
 I got it this morning.  The text they sent was:

 The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the
 PostgreSQL Global Development Group.   Is that OK?  We can still keep
 your name and company at the top.
 Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is
 neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and
 individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors.
 I still don't understand why is the copyright assignment needed at
 all.  Is it even valid, given that the PGDG does not have a written/
 signed document?  At least the FSF requires you to given them a written
 and signed statement to that effect.  And if it's not valid, why bother
 doing it at all?

 Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if
 it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else?  We will be able to use
 it regardless of the copyright assignment, as will anyone else.

 One point may be that if PGDG doesn't have a Copyright line in the
 header, it can't then automatically increment the year in there when the
 time comes.  Does this have anything to do with it?  It may also have to
 do with when someone from PGDG fixes a bug in that code.
 
 [ Patch author added as CC.]

hmm ? actually the author seems to be Victor Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
- now in CC)  - I don't have anything to do with that module ...


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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 Log Message:
 ---
 sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate
 Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH
IIRC:

make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/home/andrew/bf/root/HEAD/pgsql.19349/contrib/vacuumlo'
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/home/andrew/bf/root/HEAD/pgsql.19349/contrib/sslinfo'
Makefile:9: ../contrib-global.mk: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../contrib-global.mk'.  Stop.

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH
 IIRC:

Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did.  I'm surprised Peter
didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ...

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