Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information
Subject wrap test, please ignore. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't looking. :) I was glad to get something working at all. The uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it. Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro. Note that the subject is a single line, not multiple lines. The subject as sent is: Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't looking. :) I was glad to get something working at all. The uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it. Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro. Note that the subject is a single line, not multiple lines. The subject as sent is: Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL OK, as a reply from the lists I see: Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information which has removed about current SSL. Interestingly, in the mbox file I see later emails with the even shorter subject: Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - I do see that short subject thread starting with my post. Would someone else post with that subject and see what we get? How do I see the subject as sendmail is sending it out? -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. Test of wrapping of subject. Ignore. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
OK, I just emailed the long subject line to my gmail account, and got the full text: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL Interestingly, I looked at a copy of the email I sent to start the truncated subject thread and see in my saved mbox file: From bruce Sun Sep 3 23:57:49 2006 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note the newline in the subject. What confuses me is how that newline got in there if replying to other email didn't have that problem. One thing I did do is to copy text from another email into that email. --- Bruce Momjian wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't looking. :) I was glad to get something working at all. The uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it. Full reply to long subject line for Alvaro. Note that the subject is a single line, not multiple lines. The subject as sent is: Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL OK, as a reply from the lists I see: Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information which has removed about current SSL. Interestingly, in the mbox file I see later emails with the even shorter subject: Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - I do see that short subject thread starting with my post. Would someone else post with that subject and see what we get? How do I see the subject as sendmail is sending it out? -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. Test of wrapping of subject, please ignore. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
Bruce Momjian wrote: Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors. This isn't a copyright transfer, but if you just write (C) me without anything else then you haven't given any license for anyone else to use it. If we put a uniform copyright statement everywhere, then this gives reasonable assurance (as in: we got away with it so far) to everyone about the nature of the license and such. Your name is still on record, so you are still the copyright holder under law. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
Tom Lane wrote: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... I'm surprised how crazy the contrib makefiles got while I wasn't looking. :) I was glad to get something working at all. The uniformity isn't that great at the moment and I'm unsure about the purpose of all that pgxs stuff there, but I think we've had that discussion and I'm not interested in reopening it. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. Another one of those things that was not evident from the patch queue. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. I got it this morning. The text they sent was: The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the PostgreSQL Global Development Group. Is that OK? We can still keep your name and company at the top. Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors. Thanks. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else? Because every so often we get pestered by lawyers who get worried when there's a collection of random different copyright notices in the code. Actually, I don't think there's anything wrong with Copyright Foo Inc as long as there's also a statement Released under the PostgreSQL license or equivalent. The problem here was that with neither that nor a copyright assignment, there is no clear intent to make the code available under our license terms. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. I got it this morning. The text they sent was: The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the PostgreSQL Global Development Group. Is that OK? We can still keep your name and company at the top. Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors. I still don't understand why is the copyright assignment needed at all. Is it even valid, given that the PGDG does not have a written/ signed document? At least the FSF requires you to given them a written and signed statement to that effect. And if it's not valid, why bother doing it at all? Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else? We will be able to use it regardless of the copyright assignment, as will anyone else. One point may be that if PGDG doesn't have a Copyright line in the header, it can't then automatically increment the year in there when the time comes. Does this have anything to do with it? It may also have to do with when someone from PGDG fixes a bug in that code. [ Patch author added as CC.] I think we just felt that an explicit copyright to someone else in our code could be confusing. I don't believe there is any fundamental reason to remove it, but it just seems best to do that. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -
Bruce Momjian wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. I got it this morning. The text they sent was: The copyright has to be removed so it can be copyrighted by the PostgreSQL Global Development Group. Is that OK? We can still keep your name and company at the top. Yes, it can be removed. I just wasn't aware that copyright transfer is neccessary. Most open-source projects don't have such a requirement, and individual portions of code are copyrighted by their respecitve authors. I still don't understand why is the copyright assignment needed at all. Is it even valid, given that the PGDG does not have a written/ signed document? At least the FSF requires you to given them a written and signed statement to that effect. And if it's not valid, why bother doing it at all? Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else? We will be able to use it regardless of the copyright assignment, as will anyone else. One point may be that if PGDG doesn't have a Copyright line in the header, it can't then automatically increment the year in there when the time comes. Does this have anything to do with it? It may also have to do with when someone from PGDG fixes a bug in that code. [ Patch author added as CC.] hmm ? actually the author seems to be Victor Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - now in CC) - I don't have anything to do with that module ... Stefan ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Log Message: --- sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH IIRC: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/andrew/bf/root/HEAD/pgsql.19349/contrib/vacuumlo' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andrew/bf/root/HEAD/pgsql.19349/contrib/sslinfo' Makefile:9: ../contrib-global.mk: No such file or directory make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../contrib-global.mk'. Stop. -- Alvaro Herrerahttp://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH IIRC: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings