Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Database owner installable modules patch

2008-06-23 Thread Bruce Momjian

Added to TODO:

* Implement a module capability for loading /contrib-style extensions

  http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2008-04/msg00164.php


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Tom Dunstan wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Here is a patch that provides an initial implementation of the module
 idea that was kicked around over the last few days. While there
 certainly wasn't consensus on list, enough people seemed interested in
 the idea of database-owner-installable modules that I thought it was
 worth having a play with.
 
 The general idea, to recap, is to have modules, whether included in
 the distribution a la contrib or installed separately, installed under
 a directory such as $pkglib_dir/modules/foo. A typical module
 directory might contain:
  - foo.so/foo.dll
  - install.sql
  - uninstall.sql
  - foo.conf
  - some-other-file-needed-by-foo-module.dat
 The module would be installed on the system, but the necessary scripts
 to install it in a particular database have not been run. In
 particular, the modules would not usually be install in template1.
 Database owners themselves can then opt to enable a particular
 installed module in their own database - they do not have to hassle a
 sysadmin to do it for them.
 
 
 Features of the patch:
  - A database owner can issue the command INSTALL MODULE foo, and
 pgsql will look for a $pkglib_dir/modules/foo/install.sql file to run,
 and run it.
 
  - The install script can do pretty much anything - the user is
 treated as the superuser for the duration of the script. The main and
 obvious usage is to create C language functions required by the
 module.
 
  - An entry is created in a new pg_module catalog. This is mainly to
 guard against someone trying to install a module twice at this point,
 but it may have other uses in the future (see below).
 
  - UNINSTALL MODULE foo looks for and executes
 $pkglib_dir/modules/foo/uninstall.sql and cleans up the catalog.
 
 
 
 Here is a list of things that are either still to do before I'd
 consider it worthy of inclusion (should the general approach be
 considered acceptable), or which I'd like some guidance on:
 
  - Currently the script is executed in one big SPI_execute call, and
 so errors and NOTICEs print out the entire script as context. I'm not
 sure how to break it up without writing a full parser - we must have
 something available in the backend to break a string up into multiple
 statements to execute, but I'm not sure where to look. Also, is there
 a better way to do this than SPI?
 
  - I've hacked in a bit of an end-run around permissions checks to
 make the current user look like a super-user while a module script is
 running. Is there a better way to do this?
 
  - I can't create C language functions from dlls under the modules
 dir. I'd like to be able to specify 'modules/foo/foo' as the library
 name, but the backend sees a slash and decides that must mean the path
 is absolute. I see two ways to fix this: change the existing code in
 dfmgr.c to *really* check for absolute/relative paths rather than the
 current hack, or I could stick in a special case for when it starts
 with modules/. I thought I'd get some guidance on-list. Do people
 think that sticking the dll in with other resources for the module
 under $pkglib_dir is a bad thing? (I think having everything in one
 place is a very good thing myself).Is the existing check written the
 way it is for a particular reason, or is it just good enough?
 
  - It would be nice to create the empty modules dir when we install
 pgsql, but while I suppose hacking a Makefile to install it is the way
 to go, I'm not sure which one would be appropriate.
 
  - Hack pgxs to install stuff into a modules dir if we give it some
 appropriate flag.
 
  - I'd like to add pg_depend entries for stuff installed by the module
 on the pd_module entry, so that you can't drop stuff required by the
 module without uninstalling the module itself. There would have to be
 either a function or more syntax to allow a script to do that, or some
 sort of module descriptor that let the backend do it itself.
 
  - Once the issue of loading a dll from inside the module's directory
 is done, I'd like to look for an e.g. module_install() function inside
 there, and execute that rather than the install.sql if found. Ditto
 for uninstall.
 
  - Maybe a basic mechanism to allow a module to require another one.
 Even just a SELECT require_module('bar') call at the top of a
 script.
 
  - It would be nice to suppress NOTICEs when installing stuff - the
 user almost certainly doesn't care.
 
  - Pick up config files in module directories, so that a module can
 install and pick up config for itself rather than getting the sysadmin
 to hack the global custom_variable_classes setting.
 
  - Should plperl etc be done as modules so that their config can live
 independently as well? And to allow modules to require them?
 
 
 Some other nice to haves for 

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Database owner installable modules patch

2008-05-11 Thread Tom Dunstan
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where are we on this?

I haven't had time to do any work since the original patch. That patch
was fairly basic - it just ran install / uninstall scripts and created
catalog entries, and introduced some slightly exotic syntax to do it
(INSTALL/UNINSTALL vs CREATE/DROP). The next version is intended to
handle dependencies, which should make uninstallation straight forward
for most cases. I was intending to revert the syntax creativity and
make the commands CREATE/DROP too.

I'll get a bit of time to look at both this and the enum patch this week.

Cheers

Tom

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Database owner installable modules patch

2008-05-09 Thread Bruce Momjian

Where are we on this?

---

Tom Dunstan wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Here is a patch that provides an initial implementation of the module
 idea that was kicked around over the last few days. While there
 certainly wasn't consensus on list, enough people seemed interested in
 the idea of database-owner-installable modules that I thought it was
 worth having a play with.
 
 The general idea, to recap, is to have modules, whether included in
 the distribution a la contrib or installed separately, installed under
 a directory such as $pkglib_dir/modules/foo. A typical module
 directory might contain:
  - foo.so/foo.dll
  - install.sql
  - uninstall.sql
  - foo.conf
  - some-other-file-needed-by-foo-module.dat
 The module would be installed on the system, but the necessary scripts
 to install it in a particular database have not been run. In
 particular, the modules would not usually be install in template1.
 Database owners themselves can then opt to enable a particular
 installed module in their own database - they do not have to hassle a
 sysadmin to do it for them.
 
 
 Features of the patch:
  - A database owner can issue the command INSTALL MODULE foo, and
 pgsql will look for a $pkglib_dir/modules/foo/install.sql file to run,
 and run it.
 
  - The install script can do pretty much anything - the user is
 treated as the superuser for the duration of the script. The main and
 obvious usage is to create C language functions required by the
 module.
 
  - An entry is created in a new pg_module catalog. This is mainly to
 guard against someone trying to install a module twice at this point,
 but it may have other uses in the future (see below).
 
  - UNINSTALL MODULE foo looks for and executes
 $pkglib_dir/modules/foo/uninstall.sql and cleans up the catalog.
 
 
 
 Here is a list of things that are either still to do before I'd
 consider it worthy of inclusion (should the general approach be
 considered acceptable), or which I'd like some guidance on:
 
  - Currently the script is executed in one big SPI_execute call, and
 so errors and NOTICEs print out the entire script as context. I'm not
 sure how to break it up without writing a full parser - we must have
 something available in the backend to break a string up into multiple
 statements to execute, but I'm not sure where to look. Also, is there
 a better way to do this than SPI?
 
  - I've hacked in a bit of an end-run around permissions checks to
 make the current user look like a super-user while a module script is
 running. Is there a better way to do this?
 
  - I can't create C language functions from dlls under the modules
 dir. I'd like to be able to specify 'modules/foo/foo' as the library
 name, but the backend sees a slash and decides that must mean the path
 is absolute. I see two ways to fix this: change the existing code in
 dfmgr.c to *really* check for absolute/relative paths rather than the
 current hack, or I could stick in a special case for when it starts
 with modules/. I thought I'd get some guidance on-list. Do people
 think that sticking the dll in with other resources for the module
 under $pkglib_dir is a bad thing? (I think having everything in one
 place is a very good thing myself).Is the existing check written the
 way it is for a particular reason, or is it just good enough?
 
  - It would be nice to create the empty modules dir when we install
 pgsql, but while I suppose hacking a Makefile to install it is the way
 to go, I'm not sure which one would be appropriate.
 
  - Hack pgxs to install stuff into a modules dir if we give it some
 appropriate flag.
 
  - I'd like to add pg_depend entries for stuff installed by the module
 on the pd_module entry, so that you can't drop stuff required by the
 module without uninstalling the module itself. There would have to be
 either a function or more syntax to allow a script to do that, or some
 sort of module descriptor that let the backend do it itself.
 
  - Once the issue of loading a dll from inside the module's directory
 is done, I'd like to look for an e.g. module_install() function inside
 there, and execute that rather than the install.sql if found. Ditto
 for uninstall.
 
  - Maybe a basic mechanism to allow a module to require another one.
 Even just a SELECT require_module('bar') call at the top of a
 script.
 
  - It would be nice to suppress NOTICEs when installing stuff - the
 user almost certainly doesn't care.
 
  - Pick up config files in module directories, so that a module can
 install and pick up config for itself rather than getting the sysadmin
 to hack the global custom_variable_classes setting.
 
  - Should plperl etc be done as modules so that their config can live
 independently as well? And to allow modules to require them?
 
 
 Some other nice to haves for some point in the future:
 
  - Have some sort of install module privilege, rather than just a
 check for database ownership
  - Allow 

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Database owner installable modules patch

2008-04-07 Thread David Fetter
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:29:50PM +0100, Gregory Stark wrote:

 I wonder if there's much of a use case for any statements aside from
 CREATE statements.

Yes.  Some modules could have COPY or equivalent in them, as they
could easily contain data.

Cheers,
David.
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