[HACKERS] --with-libedit-preferred is bad design

2013-07-12 Thread Josh Berkus
Hackers,

So I've been trying to compile PostgreSQL with libedit instead of
readline on a linux system, because of a bug in readline (will blog
about it later).  This took 5 attempts, because of the peculiar nature
of our readline options in configure:

--without-readline

compile without readline *or* libedit

--with-libedit-preferred

compile with libedit, but if there's an issue with libedit, then
silently substitute readline without telling me

There's no option where I can say please compile with libedit, and if
you can't, throw an error. In fact, if libedit isn't found, that's not
even reported in config.log -- your only way to find out you still have
readline is to ldd your psql after it's built.

For that matter, I find it hard to imagine where I would possibly want
the current functionality of --with-libedit-preferred.  If I've asked
for libedit, then it's pretty darned sure it's because I don't want
readline.

I think the current --with-libedit-preferred should go away, and be
replaced by a --with-libedit option which throws an error if libedit
isn't found.

Feedback?

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Re: [HACKERS] --with-libedit-preferred is bad design

2013-07-12 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
 I think the current --with-libedit-preferred should go away, and be
 replaced by a --with-libedit option which throws an error if libedit
 isn't found.

I'm not sure that will work well on systems where libedit masquerades
as readline...

TBH, given the number of bugs we've hit in libedit, encouraging its use
isn't something we should put effort into anyway.  Or is it just that
Apple seems incapable of finding non-broken versions to ship?

regards, tom lane


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Re: [HACKERS] --with-libedit-preferred is bad design

2013-07-12 Thread Josh Berkus
On 07/12/2013 06:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
 Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
 I think the current --with-libedit-preferred should go away, and be
 replaced by a --with-libedit option which throws an error if libedit
 isn't found.
 
 I'm not sure that will work well on systems where libedit masquerades
 as readline...

Ah, was that the thinking behind that?  In that case, maybe we could put
a warning in the config.log that libedit wasn't found?  Right now,
there's nothing.

 
 TBH, given the number of bugs we've hit in libedit, encouraging its use
 isn't something we should put effort into anyway.  Or is it just that
 Apple seems incapable of finding non-broken versions to ship?

That would hardly be only true of libedit, on Apple.

It's also broken on some Red Hat versions, last I checked.


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Re: [HACKERS] --with-libedit-preferred is bad design

2013-07-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake


On 7/12/2013 7:10 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:


That would hardly be only true of libedit, on Apple.

It's also broken on some Red Hat versions, last I checked.


Last I heard, libedit was completely borked. Here is a report (two years 
old) of still broken libedit in Debian:


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608442

IMO, we either need to take up the mantle of libedit maintenance or we 
need to remove it from a configure option, it doesn't work anyway.


JD









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