Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
[adding webmaster to cc] On Tuesday 08 March 2011 21.20:20 Andres Freund wrote: create account, ... Its linked on the mainpage: http://www.postgresql.org/community/signup Hmm. Could it be that this web form doesn't have a mail queue and thus doesn't retry to send the mail when the first attempt was denied by greylisting? And now it says user already exists... (At least: I hven't seen a retry for 4h, first mail was rejected at 08:42 +0100) cheers -- vbi -- featured product: Debian GNU/Linux - http://debian.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [webmaster] [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 13:00, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: [adding webmaster to cc] On Tuesday 08 March 2011 21.20:20 Andres Freund wrote: create account, ... Its linked on the mainpage: http://www.postgresql.org/community/signup Hmm. Could it be that this web form doesn't have a mail queue and thus doesn't retry to send the mail when the first attempt was denied by greylisting? And now it says user already exists... It definitely does have this. I see a graylisted email that's in the queue... I'll give it a kick, but normally you jsut have to wait... -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [webmaster] [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
On Wednesday 09 March 2011 13.05:55 Magnus Hagander wrote: I see a graylisted email that's in the queue... I'll give it a kick, but normally you jsut have to wait... Thanks, it arrived. I'm used to wait when I enable greylisting. 4h delay is rare, though. greets -- vbi -- I liken ISPs to sausage factories. You know what goes in, and you think that what comes out is tasty, but by Apollo's unwashed speedos you DON'T want to know what goes on in between. -- Sid Dabster signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [webmaster] [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Excerpts from Adrian von Bidder's message of mié mar 09 09:13:04 -0300 2011: On Wednesday 09 March 2011 13.05:55 Magnus Hagander wrote: I see a graylisted email that's in the queue... I'll give it a kick, but normally you jsut have to wait... Thanks, it arrived. I'm used to wait when I enable greylisting. 4h delay is rare, though. Yeah, I think these servers wait for an excessive period if the initial delivery fails. -- Álvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
[HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Heyho! I'm poking around a bit in PostgreSQL's source for curiosity's sake. Is there a short howto on how to start / debug postgres from within the unpacked/compiled tar? Are there scripts that set up linker paths and Postgres' environment? thanks in advance -- vbi -- This statement is false. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Is there a short howto on how to start / debug postgres from within the unpacked/compiled tar? Are there scripts that set up linker paths and Postgres' environment? You should probably start by reading the developer FAQ page: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ If you still have questions, be sure to mention your OS. -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Hi, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 15.39:56 Kevin Grittner wrote: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ thanks If you still have questions, be sure to mention your OS. Sorry, forgot. Linux. The Basic system testing item is where I'm kinda stuck. You advise to perform run time testing via psql. Which is a bit short, since obviously psql can't be directly started since there is no installation... Aagain, my question: are there wrappers/helpers to do this easily from the source/compile tree? Like: set up PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PG_WHATEVER, call initdb, ... Or do you advise to just make install and test from there? thanks -- vbi -- [...] if you have to do the occasional model for Japanese collectors, which are covered in reticulated ostrich testicle leather, then by all means continue to do so. -- Michael Reichmann http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/leica-open-letter.shtml signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Hi, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 15.39:56 Kevin Grittner wrote: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ thanks If you still have questions, be sure to mention your OS. Sorry, forgot. Linux. The Basic system testing item is where I'm kinda stuck. You advise to perform run time testing via psql. Which is a bit short, since obviously psql can't be directly started since there is no installation... Aagain, my question: are there wrappers/helpers to do this easily from the source/compile tree? Like: set up PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PG_WHATEVER, call initdb, ... sure, linux distos provide packages that do all that stuff. if you are rolling your own from scratch, you have to do some of that yourself...create the user, set the path, etc. This is all documented here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/install-post.html. If you are hacking postgres this will become second nature to you very quickly. merlin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Or do you advise to just make install and test from there? Pretty much. For development you will want to specify a few options in the ./configure step. At a minimum I recommend: --prefix= --enable-debug --enable-cassert --enable-depend See this page for other options: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/install-procedure.html Of course, there are those who prefer to use eclipse or some other IDE. For setting up eclipse, see this page: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Working_with_Eclipse I see that page is a bit out of date (we've converted from CVS to git), but perhaps you can extrapolate. -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
On tis, 2011-03-08 at 16:17 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Aagain, my question: are there wrappers/helpers to do this easily from the source/compile tree? Like: set up PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PG_WHATEVER, call initdb, ... Many developers have their own wrapper scripts, mainly to handle dealing with multiple versions or branches. But just to build and test one version you don't need to set any environment variables. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Hi, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 16.58:58 Kevin Grittner wrote: Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Or do you advise to just make install and test from there? Pretty much. Thanks for all your answers. I was just a bit confused because when I write stuff for myself I usually set up stuff to run directly in the build environment, so I was expecting something like that to be available. But make install into ~/pg will do fine as well. (I want to avoid having my trashed version version be available systemwide...) cheers -- vbi -- I've never been DPL (AFAICT) -- Pierre Habouzit on debian-vote, 2007-07-31 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch writes: Thanks for all your answers. I was just a bit confused because when I write stuff for myself I usually set up stuff to run directly in the build environment, so I was expecting something like that to be available. But make install into ~/pg will do fine as well. (I want to avoid having my trashed version version be available systemwide...) No, nobody installs test versions into real locations. What you want is to set an install spot with configure --prefix. For instance, I usually do configure --prefix=/home/tgl/testversion --enable-debug --enable-cassert Be sure to add $PREFIX/bin to your PATH so that you can call the test-installation programs conveniently. It's also often a good idea to specify a non-default port number using --with-pgport so that you can run your test postmaster concurrently with a regular one. Lastly, setting PGDATA in your environment to a suitable test database location will save typing and avoid mistakes. As Peter mentioned, most of us have scripts to set up a preferred working environment of this sort. I think I've published mine at least once ... check the archives. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: As Peter mentioned, most of us have scripts to set up a preferred working environment of this sort. I think I've published mine at least once That reminds me -- Greg Smith put something together which might make it easier to get started: https://github.com/gregs1104/peg/ -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
On 03/08/2011 01:04 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: As Peter mentioned, most of us have scripts to set up a preferred working environment of this sort. I think I've published mine at least once That reminds me -- Greg Smith put something together which might make it easier to get started: https://github.com/gregs1104/peg/ FWIW, the buildfarm software https://github.com/PGBuildFarm/client-code has a couple of developer modes. They are particularly useful for testing patches, as the script runs through a complete build and test cycle with one command. cheers andrew -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Heyho again! Now this kind of stuff is what I was after :-) On Tuesday 08 March 2011 19.04:53 Kevin Grittner wrote: That reminds me -- Greg Smith put something together which might make it easier to get started: https://github.com/gregs1104/peg/ Since you don't allow anonymous editing of the wiki, nor have an obvious create account, I leave it to you to add this: +++ How can I easily test my modified postgres version? You'll want to install PostgreSQL into a local directory (in your home directory, for instance) to avoid conflicting with a system wide installation. Use the --prefix=... option to specify an installation location; --with-pgport to specify a non-standard default port may also be helpful. To run this instance, you will need to make sure that the correct binaries are used; depending on your operating system, environment variables like PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH (on most Linux/Unix-like systems) need to be set. Setting PGDATA will also be useful. To avoid having to set this environment up manually, you may want to use Greg Smith's [href=https://github.com/gregs1104/peg peg] scripts, or the [https://github.com/PGBuildFarm/client-code scripts] that are used on the buildfarm. +++ ... and you'll never have to answer to this stupid question again ... :-) thanks happy hacking -- vbi P.S.: those who remember me from many months back may guess that I'm trying to implement IMMUTABLE columns. But I'll come back when I actually have to show something, so far I've only managed to break 121 of 124 tests of make check. At least initdb miraculously works again. -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [HACKERS] Beginner question: Hacking environment?
Hi, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 21:12:53 Adrian von Bidder wrote: Since you don't allow anonymous editing of the wiki, nor have an obvious create account, I leave it to you to add this: Its linked on the mainpage: http://www.postgresql.org/community/signup Andres -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
