[HACKERS] Is LISTEN/NOTIFY reliable?

2010-10-16 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Hi,

Does anybody know PostgreSQL LISTEN/NOTIFY is more reliable than
previous versions?  I vaguely recall that in the previous
implementation, message sent by NOTIFY may not be reached to listner.
Does PostgreSQL 9.0's new implementation guarantee that the message is
received by the listener?
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Re: [HACKERS] Is LISTEN/NOTIFY reliable?

2010-10-16 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Tatsuo Ishii is...@postgresql.org wrote:
 Does anybody know PostgreSQL LISTEN/NOTIFY is more reliable than
 previous versions?  I vaguely recall that in the previous
 implementation, message sent by NOTIFY may not be reached to listner.
 Does PostgreSQL 9.0's new implementation guarantee that the message is
 received by the listener?

I think it was always intended to be reliable (otherwise it's not much
good).  I think I remember a bug where notifications were being lost
on Windows under heavy load, but I thought we fixed that...

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Re: [HACKERS] Is LISTEN/NOTIFY reliable?

2010-10-16 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii is...@postgresql.org writes:
 Does anybody know PostgreSQL LISTEN/NOTIFY is more reliable than
 previous versions?  I vaguely recall that in the previous
 implementation, message sent by NOTIFY may not be reached to listner.
 Does PostgreSQL 9.0's new implementation guarantee that the message is
 received by the listener?

No more or less than the old one did.

The old design intentionally dropped duplicate notifications, and the
new one does too (though with a narrower definition of duplicate).
Modulo that well-documented behavior, I know of no reason to describe
either the old or new code as unreliable.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] Is LISTEN/NOTIFY reliable?

2010-10-16 Thread Andrew Dunstan



On 10/16/2010 09:04 AM, Robert Haas wrote:

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Tatsuo Ishiiis...@postgresql.org  wrote:

Does anybody know PostgreSQL LISTEN/NOTIFY is more reliable than
previous versions?  I vaguely recall that in the previous
implementation, message sent by NOTIFY may not be reached to listner.
Does PostgreSQL 9.0's new implementation guarantee that the message is
received by the listener?

I think it was always intended to be reliable (otherwise it's not much
good).  I think I remember a bug where notifications were being lost
on Windows under heavy load, but I thought we fixed that...


Here's what the docs say:

   If the same channel name is signaled multiple times from the same
   transaction with identical payload strings, the database server can
   decide to deliver a single notification only. On the other hand,
   notifications with distinct payload strings will always be delivered
   as distinct notifications. Similarly, notifications from different
   transactions will never get folded into one notification. Except for
   dropping later instances of duplicate notifications, NOTIFY
   guarantees that notifications from the same transaction get
   delivered in the order they were sent.


cheers

andrew


Re: [HACKERS] Is LISTEN/NOTIFY reliable?

2010-10-16 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Tatsuo Ishii is...@postgresql.org wrote:
 Does anybody know PostgreSQL LISTEN/NOTIFY is more reliable than
 previous versions? ,A (BI vaguely recall that in the previous
 implementation, message sent by NOTIFY may not be reached to listner.
 Does PostgreSQL 9.0's new implementation guarantee that the message is
 received by the listener?
 
 I think it was always intended to be reliable (otherwise it's not much
 good).  I think I remember a bug where notifications were being lost
 on Windows under heavy load, but I thought we fixed that...

Thanks. Maybe I was confused by the bug.
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Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

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