Re: [HACKERS] Race in tablespace test on Windows

2014-11-12 Thread Amit Kapila
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:21:26AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
   Here is a briefer command sequence exhibiting the same problem:
  
   To make this work as well on Windows as it does elsewhere, DROP
TABLESPACE
   would need to wait for other backends to close relevant unlinked
files.
   Perhaps implement wait_unlinked_files(const char *dirname) to poll
  unlinked,
   open files until they disappear.  (An attempt to open an unlinked file
  reports
   ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED.  It might be tricky to reliably distinguish this
  cause
   from other causes of that error, but it should be possible.)
 
  I think the proposed mechanism can work but the wait can be very long
  (untill the backend holding descriptor executes another command).

 The DROP TABLESPACE could send a catchup interrupt.


Yeah, that can work.

  Can we think of some other solution like in Drop Tablespace instead of
  checking if directory is empty, check if there is no object that belongs
  to database/cluster, then allow to forcibly delete that directory
someway.

 I'm not aware of a way to forcibly delete the directory.  One could rename
 files to the tablespace top-level directory just before unlinking them.
Since
 DROP TABLESPACE never removes that directory, their continued presence
there
 would not pose a problem.  (Compare use of the rename-before-unlink trick
in
 RemoveOldXlogFiles().)  That adds the overhead of an additional system
call to
 every unlink, which might be acceptable.  It may be possible to rename
after
 unlink, as-needed in DROP TABLESPACE.


Right.  I think we can discuss further about which approach is better,
once someone decides to work on this issue.


With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com


Re: [HACKERS] Race in tablespace test on Windows

2014-11-10 Thread Amit Kapila
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:

 In my Windows development environment, the tablespace regression test
fails
 approximately half the time.  Buildfarm member frogmouth failed in the
same
 manner at least once:

http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=frogmouthdt=2014-05-21%2014%3A30%3A01

 Here is a briefer command sequence exhibiting the same problem:

 CREATE TABLESPACE testspace LOCATION '...somewhere...';
 CREATE TABLE atable (c int) tablespace testspace;
 SELECT COUNT(*) FROM atable;-- open heap
 \c -
 ALTER TABLE atable SET TABLESPACE pg_default;
 DROP TABLESPACE testspace;  -- bug: fails sometimes
 DROP TABLESPACE testspace;  -- second one ~always works
 DROP TABLE atable;


For me, it doesn't get success even second time, I am getting
the same error until I execute some command on first session
which means till first session has processed the invalidation
messages.

postgres=# Drop tablespace tbs;
ERROR:  tablespace tbs is not empty
postgres=# Drop tablespace tbs;
ERROR:  tablespace tbs is not empty

I have tested this on Windows 7.

 When we unlink an open file, Windows retains it in the directory structure
 until all processes close it.  ALTER TABLE SET TABLESPACE sends
invalidation
 messages prompting backends to do so.  The backend running the ALTER TABLE
 always processes invalidations before processing another command.  The
other
 backend, the one serving commands before \c -, may have neither exited
nor
 processed the invalidation.  When it yet holds a file descriptor for
atable,
 the DROP TABLESPACE fails.  I suspect it's possible, though more
difficult, to
 see like trouble in dbcommands.c users of
RequestCheckpoint(CHECKPOINT_WAIT).

 To make this work as well on Windows as it does elsewhere, DROP TABLESPACE
 would need to wait for other backends to close relevant unlinked files.
 Perhaps implement wait_unlinked_files(const char *dirname) to poll
unlinked,
 open files until they disappear.  (An attempt to open an unlinked file
reports
 ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED.  It might be tricky to reliably distinguish this
cause
 from other causes of that error, but it should be possible.)

I think the proposed mechanism can work but the wait can be very long
(untill the backend holding descriptor executes another command).
Can we think of some other solution like in Drop Tablespace instead of
checking if directory is empty, check if there is no object that belongs
to database/cluster, then allow to forcibly delete that directory someway.


 I propose to add
 this as a TODO, then bandage the test case with s/^\\c -$/RESET ROLE;/.

Yeah, this make sense.

With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com


[HACKERS] Race in tablespace test on Windows

2014-11-07 Thread Noah Misch
In my Windows development environment, the tablespace regression test fails
approximately half the time.  Buildfarm member frogmouth failed in the same
manner at least once:
http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=frogmouthdt=2014-05-21%2014%3A30%3A01

Here is a briefer command sequence exhibiting the same problem:

CREATE TABLESPACE testspace LOCATION '...somewhere...';
CREATE TABLE atable (c int) tablespace testspace;
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM atable;-- open heap
\c -
ALTER TABLE atable SET TABLESPACE pg_default;
DROP TABLESPACE testspace;  -- bug: fails sometimes
DROP TABLESPACE testspace;  -- second one ~always works
DROP TABLE atable;

When we unlink an open file, Windows retains it in the directory structure
until all processes close it.  ALTER TABLE SET TABLESPACE sends invalidation
messages prompting backends to do so.  The backend running the ALTER TABLE
always processes invalidations before processing another command.  The other
backend, the one serving commands before \c -, may have neither exited nor
processed the invalidation.  When it yet holds a file descriptor for atable,
the DROP TABLESPACE fails.  I suspect it's possible, though more difficult, to
see like trouble in dbcommands.c users of RequestCheckpoint(CHECKPOINT_WAIT).

To make this work as well on Windows as it does elsewhere, DROP TABLESPACE
would need to wait for other backends to close relevant unlinked files.
Perhaps implement wait_unlinked_files(const char *dirname) to poll unlinked,
open files until they disappear.  (An attempt to open an unlinked file reports
ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED.  It might be tricky to reliably distinguish this cause
from other causes of that error, but it should be possible.)  I propose to add
this as a TODO, then bandage the test case with s/^\\c -$/RESET ROLE;/.  That
reduces the number of relevant backends to one, making the race irrelevant.

Thanks,
nm


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