Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: Thought some people might find this article interesting. http://www.zend.com/zend/art/databases.php The only interesting thing I noticed is how fast it crashes my Netscape-4.76 browser ;) Yours too? I turned off Java/Javascript to get it to load and I am on BSD/OS. Strange it so univerally crashes. Really odd. I have Java/Javascript with FreeBSD and Netscape 4.76 and read it just fine. One difference tho probably, I keep style sheets shut off. Netscape crashes about 1% as often as it used to. This is getting off-topic, but ... I keep CSS, Javascript, Java, dynamic fonts, and images turned off, and Netscape 4.77 stays up for many weeks at a time. I also have no Flash plugin. All together it makes for a far more pleasant web experience. I didn't notice any problem with the Zend page. Nathan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 04:55:13PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: This is getting off-topic, but ... I keep CSS, Javascript, Java, dynamic fonts, and images turned off, and Netscape 4.77 stays up for many weeks at a time. I also have no Flash plugin. All together it makes for a far more pleasant web experience. I didn't notice any problem with the Zend page. You are running no images! You may as well have Netscape minimized and say it is running for weeks. :-) Over 98% of the images on the web are either pr0n or wankage. If you don't need to see that, you can save a lot of time. But it's usually Javascript that crashes Netscape. (CSS appears to be implemented using Javascript, because if you turn off Javascript, then CSS stops working (and crashing).) That's not to say that Java doesn't also crash Netscape; it's just that pages with Java in them are not very common. There's little point in bookmarking a site that depends on client-side Javascript or Java, because it won't be up for very long. But this is *really* off topic, now. Nathan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
Thought some people might find this article interesting. http://www.zend.com/zend/art/databases.php The only interesting thing I noticed is how fast it crashes my Netscape-4.76 browser ;) Use Konqueror :-) I can't tell if the results are biased, but it puts PostgreSQL way ahead of MySQL and Interchange in performance (if more than a couple of simultaneous users) and most other features. Only bad words are about lack of LO support. -- Kaare Rasmussen--Linux, spil,--Tlf:3816 2582 Kaki Datatshirts, merchandize Fax:3816 2501 Howitzvej 75 Åben 14.00-18.00Web: www.suse.dk 2000 FrederiksbergLørdag 11.00-17.00 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://www.postgresql.org/search.mpl
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: Thought some people might find this article interesting. http://www.zend.com/zend/art/databases.php The only interesting thing I noticed is how fast it crashes my Netscape-4.76 browser ;) Yours too? I turned off Java/Javascript to get it to load and I am on BSD/OS. Strange it so univerally crashes. Really odd. I have Java/Javascript with FreeBSD and Netscape 4.76 and read it just fine. One difference tho probably, I keep style sheets shut off. Netscape crashes about 1% as often as it used to. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: Yours too? I turned off Java/Javascript to get it to load and I am on BSD/OS. Strange it so univerally crashes. Really odd. I have Java/Javascript with FreeBSD and Netscape 4.76 and read it just fine. One difference tho probably, I keep style sheets shut off. Netscape crashes about 1% as often as it used to. I can confirm turning off stylesheets fixed the crash on my system too. Vince, what disadvantages are there to keep stylesheets off? Text placement and colors on some sites gets a bit out of whack. Datek's website has text on top of other text, but still works. I trashed the style sheets on the PostgreSQL website long ago and never used them on other sites I write. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] Re: Interesting Atricle
I think there is really something weird about the Zend site - I use the current IE on an NT machine, and every page loads, but then I have to wait about 10 additional seconds before IE wakes up and I can click any links or go to a different page. I think it may have something to do with the DHTML menus... but I haven't really looked into it. -r At 09:18 PM 6/1/01 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Thought some people might find this article interesting. http://www.zend.com/zend/art/databases.php The only interesting thing I noticed is how fast it crashes my Netscape-4.76 browser ;) Yours too? I turned off Java/Javascript to get it to load and I am on BSD/OS. Strange it so univerally crashes. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup.| Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://www.postgresql.org/search.mpl --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 4/26/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 4/26/01 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
