[HACKERS] pg_largeobject and tablespaces

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
With our new tablespace set up, is it ever possible for someone to move 
pg_largeobject to another tablespace?

Chris
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject and tablespaces

2004-06-23 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With our new tablespace set up, is it ever possible for someone to move 
> pg_largeobject to another tablespace?

Assuming that ALTER TABLE SET TABLESPACE gets in, my preferred answer is
to apply that operation to pg_largeobject.

We do need to think a bit about what the safety constraints on ALTER
TABLE SET TABLESPACE should be.  To allow the above, we cannot
completely forbid moving system catalogs.  However, it will not work
to allow moving *every* system catalog ... for instance, if you were to
move pg_class itself, things would be more than slightly broken, because
the backend could not find pg_class to learn where the system catalogs
are.

It might be that we only need to forbid moving the "nailed" system
relations, but I haven't thought it through yet.

If nothing else comes to mind, a reasonable compromise for 7.5 would be
to forbid moving any system catalog except pg_largeobject and its
indexes ...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject and tablespaces

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
If nothing else comes to mind, a reasonable compromise for 7.5 would be
to forbid moving any system catalog except pg_largeobject and its
indexes ...
Plus pg_dump support for it :/
Chris
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject and tablespaces

2004-06-24 Thread Gavin Sherry
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Tom Lane wrote:

> Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > With our new tablespace set up, is it ever possible for someone to move
> > pg_largeobject to another tablespace?
>
> Assuming that ALTER TABLE SET TABLESPACE gets in, my preferred answer is
> to apply that operation to pg_largeobject.
>
> We do need to think a bit about what the safety constraints on ALTER
> TABLE SET TABLESPACE should be.  To allow the above, we cannot
> completely forbid moving system catalogs.  However, it will not work
> to allow moving *every* system catalog ... for instance, if you were to
> move pg_class itself, things would be more than slightly broken, because
> the backend could not find pg_class to learn where the system catalogs
> are.

Good point. I'm still yet to finish this patch as it was a little more
complex than I anticipated. At first, I added new entries to the queue for
ALTER TABLE in ATPrepCmd(). This didn't work because the toast and toast
index calls couldn't see themselves because they were droped when we
switch relfilenodes.

Then I realised that bad things happened if you changed the toast OIDs.
So, I'm going to work out a more elegant solution.

>
> It might be that we only need to forbid moving the "nailed" system
> relations, but I haven't thought it through yet.

Hmm.. that sounds okay.

Gavin

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject and tablespaces

2004-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian

I have added to TODO:

* Allow moving system tables to other tablespaces, where
  possible


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Tom Lane wrote:
> Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > With our new tablespace set up, is it ever possible for someone to move 
> > pg_largeobject to another tablespace?
> 
> Assuming that ALTER TABLE SET TABLESPACE gets in, my preferred answer is
> to apply that operation to pg_largeobject.
> 
> We do need to think a bit about what the safety constraints on ALTER
> TABLE SET TABLESPACE should be.  To allow the above, we cannot
> completely forbid moving system catalogs.  However, it will not work
> to allow moving *every* system catalog ... for instance, if you were to
> move pg_class itself, things would be more than slightly broken, because
> the backend could not find pg_class to learn where the system catalogs
> are.
> 
> It might be that we only need to forbid moving the "nailed" system
> relations, but I haven't thought it through yet.
> 
> If nothing else comes to mind, a reasonable compromise for 7.5 would be
> to forbid moving any system catalog except pg_largeobject and its
> indexes ...
> 
>   regards, tom lane
> 
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