Re: [HACKERS] relaxing sync commit if no WAL written (was Re: unlogged tables)
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 07:33 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:35 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: I'm thinking it makes sense to commit this part first. This will break Hot Standby, as previously explained. Don't. Uh, why? Skipping the commit record altogether would do that, but this patch doesn't do that. I was looking for XLogStandbyInfoActive() It isn't there, so you're either breaking HS or missing a possible optimisation. Having said that, it would be useful to be able to assume that all xids appear in the log, for diagnostic purposes. So I now agree with the way you've coded it. OK, thanks. Committed. Note that there is also a long comment in there which includes a discussion of the issues relating to Hot Standby. Hopefully that's clear enough to prevent anyone from getting too clever with this in the future. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] relaxing sync commit if no WAL written (was Re: unlogged tables)
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:35 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: I'm thinking it makes sense to commit this part first. This will break Hot Standby, as previously explained. Don't. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] relaxing sync commit if no WAL written (was Re: unlogged tables)
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:35 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: I'm thinking it makes sense to commit this part first. This will break Hot Standby, as previously explained. Don't. Uh, why? Skipping the commit record altogether would do that, but this patch doesn't do that. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] relaxing sync commit if no WAL written (was Re: unlogged tables)
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 07:33 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:35 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: I'm thinking it makes sense to commit this part first. This will break Hot Standby, as previously explained. Don't. Uh, why? Skipping the commit record altogether would do that, but this patch doesn't do that. I was looking for XLogStandbyInfoActive() It isn't there, so you're either breaking HS or missing a possible optimisation. Having said that, it would be useful to be able to assume that all xids appear in the log, for diagnostic purposes. So I now agree with the way you've coded it. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
[HACKERS] relaxing sync commit if no WAL written (was Re: unlogged tables)
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Heikki Linnakangas heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: Looks ok. I'd suggest rewording this comment though: [ the comment in question ] It's a bit hard to follow, as it first lists exceptions on when we must flush XLOG immediately, and then lists conditions on when we can skip it. See if the attached looks better to you. I mostly adopted your proposal, with a bit of additional wordsmithing, and I also added a parenthetical comment about why we don't skip writing the commit record altogether in this case, since that's come up twice now. I've removed the references to unlogged tables for now, as I'm thinking it makes sense to commit this part first. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company relax-sync-commit-v2.patch Description: Binary data -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
