Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
I'm certainly interested! I am working here on Geographical Information Systems with PostgreSQL/PostGIS with the Minnesota MapServer, with a lot of regular database work thrown in. PostgreSQL has great potential for teaching databases and SQL, and when the native Windows port is ready, it will also be ideal for smaller, individual teaching projects (e.g. at home). Jan Hartmann Department of Geography University of Amsterdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gavin Sherry wrote: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I've given a talk in the 2002 honours lecture series at UWA about Postgres and some of the things it can do. All of those guys were interested. Especially since the deptartment does a lot of work in genetic algoriithms. Excellent. Can you put that talk online somewhere? Tell me when you start working on a document - I'm happy to help. Since I'm only just out of Uni, I'd like to write a set of possible assignments and learning outcomes and how you can use postgres to support them. My girlfriend is a PhD student at UWA CS dept :) plus I won the honours scholarship there a year or two back, so I can get interest from the dept, including the databases lecturer. Might help for another point of view and feedback. Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. That's tragic. Teaching kids to admin oracle is something you do in Tafe, or an Oracle course, not a university. Anyway, what kind of course teaches you about how to admin oracle as opposed to teaching you about ACID properties, MVCC, distributed transactions and partitioning? Most of which can be demonstrated with Postgres. We learnt about relational model, algebra and calculus well before learning about SQL! Your interest in this is clearly the same as mine: Universities (should) teach concept not product. I'm disgusted that this is not the case. If other people are interested we could work on this in January when I am over your way, as discussed in private email. Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides area would be good for? (http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides) Seems that any discussions about experiences belongs on Advocacy, no? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides area would be good for? (http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides) Seems that any discussions about experiences belongs on Advocacy, no? Where have you been? The lines of distinction between all of the lists have gotten so blurred it hardly makes a difference. Vince. -- http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides area would be good for? (http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides) Seems that any discussions about experiences belongs on Advocacy, no? Where have you been? The lines of distinction between all of the lists have gotten so blurred it hardly makes a difference. Actually, there are lines, Justin just occasionally appears to 'blur' them until I get a chance to refresh them ... eh Justin?:) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
On 3 Dec 2002 at 15:08, Vince Vielhaber wrote: Where have you been? The lines of distinction between all of the lists have gotten so blurred it hardly makes a difference. So consider this a wake up call. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides area would be good for? (http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides) Seems that any discussions about experiences belongs on Advocacy, no? Good point. Have put a *really basic* Zwiki framework at: http://advocacy.postgresql.org/documents It's the same collaborative software used for the PostgreSQL Guides section, but without the look+feel added. If you want to start editing stuff right away, then feel free to use it. If you'd like it to look better first though, then it'll be a few days... :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -- My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there. - Indira Gandhi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
Marc G. Fournier wrote: snip Actually, there are lines, Justin just occasionally appears to 'blur' them until I get a chance to refresh them ... eh Justin?:) [innocent whistle] + Justin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
Hi: We at the Department of Information Technology of the Mindanao State University-Iligan Institute of Technology (MSU-IIT) in Iligan City, Philippines had been using PostgreSQL since 1998 in teaching courses in Databases, SQL, and as a support tool in teaching Software Engineering and Web Application Development. We are even utilizing it as our database backend in all applications we developed in-house like Payroll, Student Enrollment, Financial Applications, etc. At the rate PostgreSQL is performing, we are not for any reason tempted to migrate to another database for the next ten years. THANKS TO THE POSTGRESQL DEVELOPMENT TEAM. We Salute YOU! PROF. MANUEL C. CABIDO Chair Department of Information Technology MSU-IIT Iligan City 9200 Philippines ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I've given a talk in the 2002 honours lecture series at UWA about Postgres and some of the things it can do. All of those guys were interested. Especially since the deptartment does a lot of work in genetic algoriithms. Excellent. Can you put that talk online somewhere? Tell me when you start working on a document - I'm happy to help. Since I'm only just out of Uni, I'd like to write a set of possible assignments and learning outcomes and how you can use postgres to support them. My girlfriend is a PhD student at UWA CS dept :) plus I won the honours scholarship there a year or two back, so I can get interest from the dept, including the databases lecturer. Might help for another point of view and feedback. Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. That's tragic. Teaching kids to admin oracle is something you do in Tafe, or an Oracle course, not a university. Anyway, what kind of course teaches you about how to admin oracle as opposed to teaching you about ACID properties, MVCC, distributed transactions and partitioning? Most of which can be demonstrated with Postgres. We learnt about relational model, algebra and calculus well before learning about SQL! Your interest in this is clearly the same as mine: Universities (should) teach concept not product. I'm disgusted that this is not the case. If other people are interested we could work on this in January when I am over your way, as discussed in private email. Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)
Gavin Sherry wrote: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I've given a talk in the 2002 honours lecture series at UWA about Postgres and some of the things it can do. All of those guys were interested. Especially since the deptartment does a lot of work in genetic algoriithms. Excellent. Can you put that talk online somewhere? Tell me when you start working on a document - I'm happy to help. Since I'm only just out of Uni, I'd like to write a set of possible assignments and learning outcomes and how you can use postgres to support them. My girlfriend is a PhD student at UWA CS dept :) plus I won the honours scholarship there a year or two back, so I can get interest from the dept, including the databases lecturer. Might help for another point of view and feedback. Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides area would be good for? (http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides) :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift snip Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
