Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Treat
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:17, Gustavo Tonini wrote:
 pgd?
 

or taking a page out of apache's book, databased ? 


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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-24 Thread Marko Kreen
On 1/23/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Attached is a patch that merges postmaster and postgres into just a
  postmaster command.

 I had some second thoughts about this, specifically about which
 direction do we really want to go in.  With this patch, it no longer
 really matters what the executable file is named, right?  We were both
 implicitly assuming that the name should end up being postmaster,
 but I think there's a good case to be made that the right thing to do
 is to migrate in the direction of having just one executable named
 postgres.  We've seen complaints before that having a daemon named
 postmaster confuses newbies into thinking it's got something to do
 with mail.  And it's already the case that the child processes all call
 themselves postgres, which will become even more confusing if there is
 no longer any executable named postgres.

+1 for 'postgres'.

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-24 Thread Gustavo Tonini
pgd?

Gustavo.

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Tom Lane wrote:

Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Attached is a patch that merges postmaster and postgres into just a 
postmaster command.



I had some second thoughts about this, specifically about which
direction do we really want to go in.  With this patch, it no longer
really matters what the executable file is named, right?  We were both
implicitly assuming that the name should end up being postmaster,
but I think there's a good case to be made that the right thing to do
is to migrate in the direction of having just one executable named
postgres.  We've seen complaints before that having a daemon named
postmaster confuses newbies into thinking it's got something to do
with mail.  And it's already the case that the child processes all call
themselves postgres, which will become even more confusing if there is
no longer any executable named postgres.

If we went in this direction we'd have to keep the installed
postmaster-postgres symlink for awhile to avoid breaking existing
start scripts, but it could be deprecated and then removed in a few
releases.

Thoughts?




+1 postgres (having the executable name matching the default os 
superuser and database accounts seems logical).


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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-23 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Attached is a patch that merges postmaster and postgres into just a 
 postmaster command.

I had some second thoughts about this, specifically about which
direction do we really want to go in.  With this patch, it no longer
really matters what the executable file is named, right?  We were both
implicitly assuming that the name should end up being postmaster,
but I think there's a good case to be made that the right thing to do
is to migrate in the direction of having just one executable named
postgres.  We've seen complaints before that having a daemon named
postmaster confuses newbies into thinking it's got something to do
with mail.  And it's already the case that the child processes all call
themselves postgres, which will become even more confusing if there is
no longer any executable named postgres.

If we went in this direction we'd have to keep the installed
postmaster-postgres symlink for awhile to avoid breaking existing
start scripts, but it could be deprecated and then removed in a few
releases.

Thoughts?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-23 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 11:13 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Attached is a patch that merges postmaster and postgres into just a 
  postmaster command.
 
 I had some second thoughts about this, specifically about which
 direction do we really want to go in.  With this patch, it no longer
 really matters what the executable file is named, right?  We were both
 implicitly assuming that the name should end up being postmaster,
 but I think there's a good case to be made that the right thing to do
 is to migrate in the direction of having just one executable named
 postgres.  We've seen complaints before that having a daemon named
 postmaster confuses newbies into thinking it's got something to do
 with mail.  And it's already the case that the child processes all call
 themselves postgres, which will become even more confusing if there is
 no longer any executable named postgres.
 
 If we went in this direction we'd have to keep the installed
 postmaster-postgres symlink for awhile to avoid breaking existing
 start scripts, but it could be deprecated and then removed in a few
 releases.
 
 Thoughts?


This is clearly better, IMNSHO. I did wonder about postgresqld or
postgresd or some such - many server programs end in d or .d to
distinguish them from client programs. But probably just postgres is
best.

cheers

andrew


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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] postmaster/postgres merge for testing

2006-01-23 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:51:36AM -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
 This is clearly better, IMNSHO. I did wonder about postgresqld or
 postgresd or some such - many server programs end in d or .d to
 distinguish them from client programs. But probably just postgres is
 best.

Or postgresql if we want to be consistent...
/nitpick
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