Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 feature count

2015-08-28 Thread Simon Riggs
On 27 August 2015 at 23:20, Bruce Momjian  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:13:19AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Alvaro Herrera
> >  wrote:
> > > Maybe there's a reasonable way to measure releases (my 8.0 is bigger
> > > than your 9.1!), but I don't think this is it.
> >
> >
> > I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think that anyone actually
> > thinks of it that way. Most people tend to think of a release in terms
> > of the big, exciting features, or the smaller features that happened
> > to scratch their particular itch.
>
> I agree.  I think the count tells us how focused we are in working on a
> few big things or many small things, e.g. when we don't have many big
> features in a major release, the count tends to be high as we clean up
> previously-released big features.
>

Anything where Hot Standby == {one line changes in default settings} has
been distilled too far to draw any meaningful conclusions. They simply
reflect the editing style in use at that time, which has changed over time.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 feature count

2015-08-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:13:19AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Alvaro Herrera
>  wrote:
> > Maybe there's a reasonable way to measure releases (my 8.0 is bigger
> > than your 9.1!), but I don't think this is it.
> 
> 
> I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think that anyone actually
> thinks of it that way. Most people tend to think of a release in terms
> of the big, exciting features, or the smaller features that happened
> to scratch their particular itch.

I agree.  I think the count tells us how focused we are in working on a
few big things or many small things, e.g. when we don't have many big
features in a major release, the count tends to be high as we clean up
previously-released big features.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 feature count

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Alvaro Herrera
 wrote:
> Maybe there's a reasonable way to measure releases (my 8.0 is bigger
> than your 9.1!), but I don't think this is it.


I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think that anyone actually
thinks of it that way. Most people tend to think of a release in terms
of the big, exciting features, or the smaller features that happened
to scratch their particular itch.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 feature count

2015-06-26 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I have run a script to count the number of "" items in the
> major release notes of each major version of Postgres back to 7.4:
> 
>   7.4280
>   8.0238
>   8.1187
>   8.2230
>   8.3237
>   8.4330
>   9.0252
>   9.1213
>   9.2250
>   9.3187
>   9.4217
>   9.5176
> 
> The 9.5 number will only change a little by 9.5 final.

I think doing this kind of "analysis" can lead to bad incentives; should
we split two items that are unrelated but touch similarly-sounding parts
of the code, should we merge items that are actually pretty much the
same thing?  It's either pointless, because people in-the-know actually
realizes that it doesn't actually mean anything, or confusing because
people think that some releases are bigger than others because they have
"more features".

Maybe there's a reasonable way to measure releases (my 8.0 is bigger
than your 9.1!), but I don't think this is it.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 feature count

2015-06-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 02:12:16PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I have run a script to count the number of "" items in the
> major release notes of each major version of Postgres back to 7.4:
> 
>   7.4280
>   8.0238
>   8.1187
>   8.2230
>   8.3237
>   8.4330
>   9.0252
>   9.1213
>   9.2250
>   9.3187
>   9.4217
>   9.5176
> 
> The 9.5 number will only change a little by 9.5 final.

FYI, all final releases have 5-10 listed major items which are repeats
of other items, so the final 9.5 count will be slightly higher.

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