Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
Robert Haas writes: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being >> noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. > How much less broken are they now? I think the core code is only locally broken now, with issues like LIKE index optimization probably not doing the right thing. The main problem at this point is probably plpgsql. To get far with that, we're going to need to extend the parser's Param interfaces to allow specification of a collation for a Param. And SPI too. (Yay, still another generation of SPI interfaces that we'll have to support forever...) So, another couple days minimum before it's reasonable to ship. At least if you want stuff like this to work: http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/20110314194507.gc13...@huehner.biz regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> 2011/3/15 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : >>> If you need more votes for this: +1 from me. I'd like to wrap the >>> packages before I leave for PGEast. > >> My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and >> collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not >> worry about that for alpha? > > FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being > noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. How much less broken are they now? -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
2011/3/16 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 22:00 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> >> > My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and >> > collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not >> > worry about that for alpha? >> >> FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being >> noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. I have mixed >> feelings >> about whether an alpha5 right now is useful. > > Fair enough. Looks like we will skip next week, too. Yeah, probably best. I think we're making good progress, though, so I propose we wrap alpha5 on Monday, March 28. I don't think we'll be all the way there yet by then, but I think we will have made enough progress that it makes sense to get another snapshot out the door and into the hands of testers. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 22:00 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and > > collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not > > worry about that for alpha? > > FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being > noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. I have mixed > feelings > about whether an alpha5 right now is useful. Fair enough. Looks like we will skip next week, too. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ Principal Systems Engineer @ EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> 2011/3/15 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : >>> If you need more votes for this: +1 from me. I'd like to wrap the >>> packages before I leave for PGEast. > >> My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and >> collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not >> worry about that for alpha? > > FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being > noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. I have mixed feelings > about whether an alpha5 right now is useful. I think we should wait another week. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
Robert Haas writes: > 2011/3/15 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : >> If you need more votes for this: +1 from me. I'd like to wrap the >> packages before I leave for PGEast. > My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and > collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not > worry about that for alpha? FWIW, collations are probably still several days away from being noticeably less broken than they were in alpha4. I have mixed feelings about whether an alpha5 right now is useful. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
2011/3/15 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : > On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 11:40 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > >> My vote would be forget about building installers for alpha4 and >> instead wrap an alpha5 next week. > > If you need more votes for this: +1 from me. I'd like to wrap the > packages before I leave for PGEast. My only hesitation about this is that it seems like sync rep and collation support are both still pretty broken. Should we just not worry about that for alpha? -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 11:40 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > My vote would be forget about building installers for alpha4 and > instead wrap an alpha5 next week. If you need more votes for this: +1 from me. I'd like to wrap the packages before I leave for PGEast. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ Principal Systems Engineer @ EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
2011/3/11 Robert Haas : > 2011/3/11 Dave Page : >> 2011/3/11 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : >>> On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 17:45 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: > Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: >>> >>> I believe we need an alpha5 for post-alpha-4 fixes, including syncrep >>> ones. >> >> Might be useful. My build scripts fell over because of the parallel >> build issues too. > > Have those been fixed? Dunno - I removed the -j option from my build scripts as a workaround. I have seen discussion of that issue though, so I assumed it was in hand and didn't bother reporting it. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
2011/3/11 Dave Page : > 2011/3/11 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : >> On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 17:45 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: >>> >>> On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: >>> > Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. >>> >>> Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: >> >> I believe we need an alpha5 for post-alpha-4 fixes, including syncrep >> ones. > > Might be useful. My build scripts fell over because of the parallel > build issues too. Have those been fixed? My vote would be forget about building installers for alpha4 and instead wrap an alpha5 next week. By that time Tom will have hopefully also finished hacking on the collation stuff. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
2011/3/11 Devrim GÜNDÜZ : > On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 17:45 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: >> >> On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: >> > Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. >> >> Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: > > I believe we need an alpha5 for post-alpha-4 fixes, including syncrep > ones. Might be useful. My build scripts fell over because of the parallel build issues too. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 17:45 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > > On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: > > Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. > > Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: I believe we need an alpha5 for post-alpha-4 fixes, including syncrep ones. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ Principal Systems Engineer @ EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified Engineer Community: devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: >> >> Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. > > Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: I really should pay more attention to the committers list. Thanks! -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Flex output missing from 9.1a4 tarballs?
On 11.03.2011 17:41, Dave Page wrote: Looks like we're missing the pre-build output from the tarball. Yes. Tom spotted and fixed this yesterday: commit 174f65ab00bb8de0f119a6a60d562b516ba71bba Author: Tom Lane Date: Thu Mar 10 00:03:26 2011 -0500 Fix some oversights in distprep and maintainer-clean targets. At least two recent commits have apparently imagined that a comment in a Makefile stating that something would be included in the distribution tarball was sufficient to make it so. They hadn't bothered to hook into the upper maintainer-clean targets either. Per bug #5923 from Charles Johnson, in which it emerged that the 9.1alpha4 tarballs are short a few files that should be there. -- Heikki Linnakangas EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers