Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Tom Lane

Okay, okay, complaint withdrawn.  Peter, would you commit that
permission check?

regards, tom lane



Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Bruce Momjian

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> > > What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of 
> > > someone's setting off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?
> > 
> > Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
> > much bigger one.
> 
> I've missed point - cash_out(1) is bug that should be fixed.
> Any reason to add yet another gun?

True.  I just thought there were many bigger DoS areas.  Maybe I am
wrong.

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RE: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Mikheev, Vadim

> > What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of 
> > someone's setting off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?
> 
> Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
> much bigger one.

I've missed point - cash_out(1) is bug that should be fixed.
Any reason to add yet another gun?

Vadim



Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Bruce Momjian

> Tom Lane wrote:
>   >Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   >> Mikheev, Vadim writes:
>   >>> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
>   >>> if no one else.
>   >
>   >> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:
>   >
>   >Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
>   >have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"
>   >
>   >A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
>   >I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().
> 
> What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of someone's setting
> off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?

Don't we have bigger DoS attacks?  Certainly SELECT cash_out(1) is a
much bigger one.

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RE: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Mikheev, Vadim

> Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
> have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"
> 
> A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
> I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().

Checkpoints 1. affect entire system, 2. increase log output and
3. it's hard operation. Command itself was added mostly for debug
purposes.

Vadim



RE: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-26 Thread Mikheev, Vadim

> > Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it 
> > later (in 7.1) if no one else.
> 
> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

I think yes - please apply.

Vadim



Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-25 Thread Oliver Elphick

Tom Lane wrote:
  >Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  >> Mikheev, Vadim writes:
  >>> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
  >>> if no one else.
  >
  >> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:
  >
  >Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
  >have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"
  >
  >A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
  >I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().

What about DoS attacks?  What would be the effect of someone's setting
off an infinite loop of CHECKPOINTs?

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Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-25 Thread Tom Lane

Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mikheev, Vadim writes:
>> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
>> if no one else.

> Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

Actually, I think a more interesting question is "should CHECKPOINT
have permission restrictions?  If so, what should they be?"

A quite relevant precedent is that Unix systems (at least the ones
I've used) do not restrict who can call sync().

regards, tom lane



RE: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Mikheev, Vadim writes:

> Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
> if no one else.

Should be simple enough.  Is this okay:

Index: utility.c
===
RCS file: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/src/backend/tcop/utility.c,v
retrieving revision 1.105
diff -c -r1.105 utility.c
*** utility.c   2001/01/05 06:34:20 1.105
--- utility.c   2001/01/25 16:40:40
***
*** 18,23 
--- 18,24 

  #include "access/heapam.h"
  #include "catalog/catalog.h"
+ #include "catalog/pg_shadow.h"
  #include "commands/async.h"
  #include "commands/cluster.h"
  #include "commands/command.h"
***
*** 851,856 
--- 852,859 
{
set_ps_display(commandTag = "CHECKPOINT");

+   if (!superuser())
+   elog(ERROR, "permission denied");
CreateCheckPoint(false);
}
break;


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RE: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-24 Thread Mikheev, Vadim

>   >Contrary to what the submitted documentation claims, there is no
>   >permission checking done on the CHECKPOINT command.  
> Should there be?
>   
> Vadim seemed to indicate that he was going to make that restriction.
> Perhaps I misunderstood.

Yes, there should be permission checking - I'll add it later (in 7.1)
if no one else.

Vadim



Re: [HACKERS] Permissions on CHECKPOINT

2001-01-24 Thread Oliver Elphick

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
  >Contrary to what the submitted documentation claims, there is no
  >permission checking done on the CHECKPOINT command.  Should there be?
  
Vadim seemed to indicate that he was going to make that restriction.
Perhaps I misunderstood.

If it's too late to make the change for 7.1, the fact should be
documented in a Bug section of the man page.

  >Btw., is there any normal usage application of this command?  This relates
  >to the previous paragraph somewhat.
  >
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  >

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