Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Neil Conway wrote: > Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit... > > > > committers != core > > Is there any reason for this distinction? I assume you are asking why there is core? It is really just for getting a quick vote among folks for final release date, and for discussing things with individuals and companies who require a private conversation among PostgreSQL representatives. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit... > > committers != core Is there any reason for this distinction? Cheers, Neil -- Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || PGP Key ID: DB3C29FC ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much > > more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday, > > and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such > > issues perhaps 2-4 times a year. > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit... committers != core -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
> I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much > more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday, > and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such > issues perhaps 2-4 times a year. OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit... Chris ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote: > > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a > > > new member of the steering committee? > > > > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice". > > IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a > new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the > core members. > > If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is. Having five core versus > six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists > of people who are already doing development now. Having an odd number of > core has its advantages. I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday, and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such issues perhaps 2-4 times a year. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. I'm really sorry to hear that. Good luck in all of your future endeavors. Vince. -- http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote: > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a > > new member of the steering committee? > > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice". IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the core members. If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is. Having five core versus six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists of people who are already doing development now. Having an odd number of core has its advantages. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
On Friday 15 November 2002 01:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. I'll echo the sad day response of earlier. You have done quite a bit for the project, and you will be missed. > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years. Thomas, good luck. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Tom Lane wrote: > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new > > member of the steering committee? > > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice". The logic usually has been to add people to core who are so involved in the release process that we couldn't imagine scheduling a release without them. I am not saying all current core members are that involved, but at the time they were added to core, they were. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Hey Thomas, Although we have never corresponded, I just wanted to say thank you to yourself and all the other hackers who have devoted their time voluntarily to PostgreSQL. It really is appreciated. Cheers Mark Pritchard On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. > > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years. > > - Thomas > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new > member of the steering committee? Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice". regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Lockhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 November 2002 06:38 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [HACKERS] Time to move on... > > > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six > years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. Good luck in whatever you decide to do next Thomas. Your effort and help over the last few years has certainly been appreciated by me, and I'm sure by many others as well. Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
Thomas Lockhart wrote: > > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. Wow. That was totally unexpected. A sad day. :-/ > It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. Good luck Thomas. Truly hope you're going to have heaps of fun, enjoy yourself, and find the new projects rewarding too. Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years. > > - Thomas -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Time to move on...
> Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is > time to take a break and to move on to other projects. Thanks for all your work, Thomas. I hope to one day achieve similarly - time be willing! To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new member of the steering committee? Chris ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
