Re: [HACKERS] maintenance_work_mem memory constraint?

2007-11-27 Thread Bernd Helmle

--On Montag, November 26, 2007 21:41:33 +0100 I wrote:


--On Montag, November 26, 2007 13:02:14 -0500 Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bernd Helmle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

... But isn't it worth to special case the
code in grow_memtuples() (and maybe other places where sort is likely to
use more RAM), so that we can remove this constraint on 64-Bit systems
with  many RAM built in? Or am I missing something very important?.


AFAICS this patch can increase the number of sortable tuples by at most
2X (less one).  That doesn't seem worth getting very worked up about ...

regards, tom lane


That's true.

Well, i haven't meant the diff as a discussable patch at all. It's just
what i've done to understand why we have this limit for tuplesort.
afaics, the main constraint here is MaxAllocSize, and i just wonder if
that doesn't introduce unnecessary limits on systems which can use many
RAM for index creation and wether we can be more generous here. So one
idea could be to allow larger allocation requests during sorting on
systems where we know that this is likely to work.


And, to complete my concerns, if i can afford to give maintenance_work_mem 
10GB and the system just uses 2GB this is somewhere near a bug.


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Re: [HACKERS] maintenance_work_mem memory constraint?

2007-11-26 Thread Tom Lane
Bernd Helmle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 ... But isn't it worth to special case the 
 code in grow_memtuples() (and maybe other places where sort is likely to 
 use more RAM), so that we can remove this constraint on 64-Bit systems with 
 many RAM built in? Or am I missing something very important?.

AFAICS this patch can increase the number of sortable tuples by at most 2X
(less one).  That doesn't seem worth getting very worked up about ...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] maintenance_work_mem memory constraint?

2007-11-26 Thread Bernd Helmle
--On Montag, November 26, 2007 13:02:14 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Bernd Helmle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

... But isn't it worth to special case the
code in grow_memtuples() (and maybe other places where sort is likely to
use more RAM), so that we can remove this constraint on 64-Bit systems
with  many RAM built in? Or am I missing something very important?.


AFAICS this patch can increase the number of sortable tuples by at most 2X
(less one).  That doesn't seem worth getting very worked up about ...

regards, tom lane


That's true.

Well, i haven't meant the diff as a discussable patch at all. It's just 
what i've done to understand why we have this limit for tuplesort. afaics, 
the main constraint here is MaxAllocSize, and i just wonder if that doesn't 
introduce unnecessary limits on systems which can use many RAM for index 
creation and wether we can be more generous here. So one idea could be to 
allow larger allocation requests during sorting on systems where we know 
that this is likely to work.


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   Bernd

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