Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
> >>> You mentioned that you were going to add a few paragraphs to the > >>> documentation saying that you can now actually catch SPI errors. I > >>> haven't seen that yet. > >> > >> Yeah, I'm procrastinating the doc writing part ;) Will spit something > >> out by the end of the (CET) day. > > > > Done, added a small example in the Database Access section. Committed. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 31/01/11 00:03, Jan Urbański wrote: > On 29/01/11 22:13, Jan Urbański wrote: >> On 29/01/11 22:10, Steve Singer wrote: >>> On 11-01-29 03:39 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: D'oh, you're right, thanks. Attached patch with fix. Curiosly, right now in master your example with plpy.prepare will result in "savepoint" being swallowed, but it's of course better to react with an error. Cheers, Jan >>> >>> This seems to fix it. >>> >>> You mentioned that you were going to add a few paragraphs to the >>> documentation saying that you can now actually catch SPI errors. I >>> haven't seen that yet. >> >> Yeah, I'm procrastinating the doc writing part ;) Will spit something >> out by the end of the (CET) day. > > Done, added a small example in the Database Access section. ... aaand another one. I'll never get used to the way section titles are capitalized. Jan diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml index 9fc8808..324e606 100644 *** a/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml --- b/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml *** $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; *** 858,863 --- 858,866 plpy.foo. + + Database Access Functions + The plpy module provides two functions called execute and *** CREATE FUNCTION usesavedplan() RETURNS t *** 937,942 --- 940,972 $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + + + + + Trapping Errors + + +Functions accessing the database might encounter errors, which will cause +them to abort and raise an exception. Both plpy.execute +and plpy.prepare can raise an instance +of plpy.SPIError, which by default will terminate the +function. This error can be handled just like any other Python exception, +by using the try/except construct. For example: + + CREATE FUNCTION try_adding_joe() RETURNS text AS $$ + try: + plpy.execute("INSERT INTO users(username) VALUES ('joe')") + except plpy.SPIError: + return "something went wrong" + else: + return "Joe added" + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + + + + + diff --git a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out index ea4a54c..c8ce984 100644 *** a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out --- b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out *** CREATE FUNCTION sql_syntax_error() RETUR *** 8,15 'plpy.execute("syntax error")' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT sql_syntax_error(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "sql_syntax_error" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: syntax error at or near "syntax" LINE 1: syntax error ^ --- 8,13 *** CREATE FUNCTION exception_index_invalid_ *** 32,39 return rv[0]' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT exception_index_invalid_nested(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "exception_index_invalid_nested" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: function test5(unknown) does not exist LINE 1: SELECT test5('foo') ^ --- 30,35 *** return None *** 54,61 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_uncaught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" /* for what it's worth catch the exception generated by --- 50,55 *** return None *** 77,84 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_caught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" NOTICE: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" invalid_type_caught --- 71,76 *** return None *** 104,111 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_reraised('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" ERROR: plpy.Error: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" /* no typo no messing about --- 96,101 *** SELECT valid_type('rick'); *** 126,128 --- 116,140 (1 row) + /* manually starting subtransactions - a bad idea + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact() RETURNS void AS $$ + plpy.execute("savepoint save") + plpy.execute("create table foo(x integer)") + plpy.execute("rollback to save") + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + SELECT manual_subxact(); + ERROR: plpy.SPIError: SPI_execute failed: SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION + CONTEXT: PL/Python function "manual_subxact" + /* same for prepared plans + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact_prepared() RETURNS void AS $$ + save = plpy.prepare("savepoint save") + rollback = plpy.prepare("rollback to save") + plpy.execute(save) + pl
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 29/01/11 22:13, Jan Urbański wrote: > On 29/01/11 22:10, Steve Singer wrote: >> On 11-01-29 03:39 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: >>> >>> D'oh, you're right, thanks. Attached patch with fix. Curiosly, right now >>> in master your example with plpy.prepare will result in "savepoint" >>> being swallowed, but it's of course better to react with an error. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jan >> >> This seems to fix it. >> >> You mentioned that you were going to add a few paragraphs to the >> documentation saying that you can now actually catch SPI errors. I >> haven't seen that yet. > > Yeah, I'm procrastinating the doc writing part ;) Will spit something > out by the end of the (CET) day. Done, added a small example in the Database Access section. Cheers, Jan diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml index 9fc8808..feb5722 100644 *** a/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml --- b/doc/src/sgml/plpython.sgml *** $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; *** 858,863 --- 858,866 plpy.foo. + + Database access functions + The plpy module provides two functions called execute and *** CREATE FUNCTION usesavedplan() RETURNS t *** 937,942 --- 940,972 $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + + + + + Trapping Errors + + +Functions accessing the database might encounter errors, which will cause +them to abort and raise an exception. Both plpy.execute +and plpy.prepare can raise an instance +of plpy.SPIError, which by default will terminate the +function. This error can be handled just like any other Python exception, +by using the try/except construct. For example: + + CREATE FUNCTION try_adding_joe() RETURNS text AS $$ + try: + plpy.execute("INSERT INTO users(username) VALUES ('joe')") + except plpy.SPIError: + return "something went wrong" + else: + return "Joe added" + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + + + + + diff --git a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out index ea4a54c..c8ce984 100644 *** a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out --- b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out *** CREATE FUNCTION sql_syntax_error() RETUR *** 8,15 'plpy.execute("syntax error")' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT sql_syntax_error(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "sql_syntax_error" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: syntax error at or near "syntax" LINE 1: syntax error ^ --- 8,13 *** CREATE FUNCTION exception_index_invalid_ *** 32,39 return rv[0]' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT exception_index_invalid_nested(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "exception_index_invalid_nested" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: function test5(unknown) does not exist LINE 1: SELECT test5('foo') ^ --- 30,35 *** return None *** 54,61 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_uncaught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" /* for what it's worth catch the exception generated by --- 50,55 *** return None *** 77,84 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_caught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" NOTICE: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" invalid_type_caught --- 71,76 *** return None *** 104,111 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_reraised('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" ERROR: plpy.Error: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" /* no typo no messing about --- 96,101 *** SELECT valid_type('rick'); *** 126,128 --- 116,140 (1 row) + /* manually starting subtransactions - a bad idea + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact() RETURNS void AS $$ + plpy.execute("savepoint save") + plpy.execute("create table foo(x integer)") + plpy.execute("rollback to save") + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + SELECT manual_subxact(); + ERROR: plpy.SPIError: SPI_execute failed: SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION + CONTEXT: PL/Python function "manual_subxact" + /* same for prepared plans + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact_prepared() RETURNS void AS $$ + save = plpy.prepare("savepoint save") + rollback = plpy.prepare("rollback to save") + plpy.execute(save) + plpy.execute("create table foo(x integer)") + plpy.execute(rollback) + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + SELECT manual_subxact_prepared(); + ERROR: plpy
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 29/01/11 22:10, Steve Singer wrote: > On 11-01-29 03:39 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: >> >> D'oh, you're right, thanks. Attached patch with fix. Curiosly, right now >> in master your example with plpy.prepare will result in "savepoint" >> being swallowed, but it's of course better to react with an error. >> >> Cheers, >> Jan > > This seems to fix it. > > You mentioned that you were going to add a few paragraphs to the > documentation saying that you can now actually catch SPI errors. I > haven't seen that yet. Yeah, I'm procrastinating the doc writing part ;) Will spit something out by the end of the (CET) day. > Other than that I don't see any issues with the patch and it should be > ready for a committer. Great, thanks for a diligent review, Jan -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 11-01-29 03:39 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: D'oh, you're right, thanks. Attached patch with fix. Curiosly, right now in master your example with plpy.prepare will result in "savepoint" being swallowed, but it's of course better to react with an error. Cheers, Jan This seems to fix it. You mentioned that you were going to add a few paragraphs to the documentation saying that you can now actually catch SPI errors. I haven't seen that yet. Other than that I don't see any issues with the patch and it should be ready for a committer. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 29/01/11 21:27, Steve Singer wrote: > On 11-01-27 04:33 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: >>> I am finding the treatment of savepoints very strange. >>> If as a function author I'm able to recover from errors then I'd expect >>> (or maybe want) to be able to manage them through savepoints >> Ooops, you found a bug there. In the attached patch you get the same >> error (SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION) as in master. Also added a unit test for >> that. >> > I think you need to make the same change to PLy_spi_execute_plan. D'oh, you're right, thanks. Attached patch with fix. Curiosly, right now in master your example with plpy.prepare will result in "savepoint" being swallowed, but it's of course better to react with an error. Cheers, Jan diff --git a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out index ea4a54c..c8ce984 100644 *** a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out --- b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out *** CREATE FUNCTION sql_syntax_error() RETUR *** 8,15 'plpy.execute("syntax error")' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT sql_syntax_error(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "sql_syntax_error" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: syntax error at or near "syntax" LINE 1: syntax error ^ --- 8,13 *** CREATE FUNCTION exception_index_invalid_ *** 32,39 return rv[0]' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT exception_index_invalid_nested(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "exception_index_invalid_nested" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: function test5(unknown) does not exist LINE 1: SELECT test5('foo') ^ --- 30,35 *** return None *** 54,61 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_uncaught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_uncaught" /* for what it's worth catch the exception generated by --- 50,55 *** return None *** 77,84 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_caught('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" NOTICE: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_caught" invalid_type_caught --- 71,76 *** return None *** 104,111 ' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT invalid_type_reraised('rick'); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_prepare - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" ERROR: plpy.Error: type "test" does not exist CONTEXT: PL/Python function "invalid_type_reraised" /* no typo no messing about --- 96,101 *** SELECT valid_type('rick'); *** 126,128 --- 116,140 (1 row) + /* manually starting subtransactions - a bad idea + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact() RETURNS void AS $$ + plpy.execute("savepoint save") + plpy.execute("create table foo(x integer)") + plpy.execute("rollback to save") + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + SELECT manual_subxact(); + ERROR: plpy.SPIError: SPI_execute failed: SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION + CONTEXT: PL/Python function "manual_subxact" + /* same for prepared plans + */ + CREATE FUNCTION manual_subxact_prepared() RETURNS void AS $$ + save = plpy.prepare("savepoint save") + rollback = plpy.prepare("rollback to save") + plpy.execute(save) + plpy.execute("create table foo(x integer)") + plpy.execute(rollback) + $$ LANGUAGE plpythonu; + SELECT manual_subxact_prepared(); + ERROR: plpy.SPIError: SPI_execute_plan failed: SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION + CONTEXT: PL/Python function "manual_subxact_prepared" diff --git a/src/pl/plpython/plpython.c b/src/pl/plpython/plpython.c index aafe556..6d3566a 100644 *** a/src/pl/plpython/plpython.c --- b/src/pl/plpython/plpython.c *** typedef int Py_ssize_t; *** 101,106 --- 101,107 #include "nodes/makefuncs.h" #include "parser/parse_type.h" #include "tcop/tcopprot.h" + #include "access/xact.h" #include "utils/builtins.h" #include "utils/hsearch.h" #include "utils/lsyscache.h" *** PLy_spi_prepare(PyObject *self, PyObject *** 2817,2822 --- 2818,2824 char *query; void *tmpplan; volatile MemoryContext oldcontext; + volatile ResourceOwner oldowner; int nargs; if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "s|O", &query, &list)) *** PLy_spi_prepare(PyObject *self, PyObject *** 2840,2845 --- 2842,2852 plan->args = nargs ? PLy_malloc(sizeof(PLyTypeInfo) * nargs) : NULL; oldcontext = CurrentMemoryContext; + oldowner = CurrentResourceOwner; + + BeginInternalSubTransaction(NULL); + MemoryContextSwitchTo(oldcontext); + PG_TRY(); { int i; *** PLy_spi_prepare(PyObject
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 11-01-27 04:33 PM, Jan Urbański wrote: Right, without the patch you can never catch errors originating from plpy.execute, so any error terminates the whole function, and so rolls back the statement. FWIW PL/Perl works the same: begin; create table foo(i int primary key); DO $$ spi_exec_query("insert into foo values ('1')"); eval { spi_exec_query("insert into foo values ('1')"); }; elog(LOG, $@) if $@; $$ language plperl; select * from foo; You will see a row in foo. AFAICS PL/Tcl also does it, but I don't have it complied it to try. It does consitute a behaviour change, but we didn't get any complains when the same thing happened for Perl. If we've made this type of behaviour change for pl/perl and no one complained then I don't see an issue with doing it for plpython (if anyone does they should speak up) I am finding the treatment of savepoints very strange. If as a function author I'm able to recover from errors then I'd expect (or maybe want) to be able to manage them through savepoints Ooops, you found a bug there. In the attached patch you get the same error (SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION) as in master. Also added a unit test for that. I think you need to make the same change to PLy_spi_execute_plan. Try BEGIN; create table foo(a int4 primary key); DO $$ prep=plpy.prepare("savepoint save") plpy.execute(prep) r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") try : r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") except: prep=plpy.prepare("rollback to save") plpy.execute(prep) plpy.log("something went wrong") $$ language plpythonu; -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 26/01/11 04:51, Steve Singer wrote: > On 10-12-23 08:45 AM, Jan Urbański wrote: > I see you've merged the changes from the refactoring branch down but > haven't yet posted an updated patch. This review is based on > 2f2b4a33bf344058620a5c684d1f2459e505c727 Thanks for the review, I'm attaching an updated patch against master. > The patch updates the excepted results of the regression tests so they > no longer expect the 'unrecognized error' warnings. No new unit test > are added to verify that behavior changes will continue to function as > intended (though they could be) It's in fact just a correctness change, so I didn't include any new unit tests. > No documentation updates are included. The current documentation is > silent on the behaviour of plpython when SPI calls generate errors so > this change doesn't invalidate any documentation but it would be nice if > we described what effect SQL invoked through SPI from the functions have > on the transaction. Maybe a "Trapping Errors" section? Good point, the fact that you can now actually catch SPI errors should be documented, I'll try to add a paragraph about that. > A concern I have is that some users might find this surprising. For > plpgsql the exception handling will rollback SQL from before the > exception and I suspect the other PL's are the same. It would be good > if a few more people chimed in on if they see this as a good idea. It's not true for other PLs, but see below. > Another concern is that we are probably breaking some peoples code. > > Consider the following: > > BEGIN; > create table foo(a int4 primary key); > DO $$ > r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") > try : > r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") > except: > plpy.log("something went wrong") > $$ language plpython2u; > select * FROM foo; > a > --- > 1 > (1 row) > > > This code is going to behave different with the patch. Right, without the patch you can never catch errors originating from plpy.execute, so any error terminates the whole function, and so rolls back the statement. FWIW PL/Perl works the same: begin; create table foo(i int primary key); DO $$ spi_exec_query("insert into foo values ('1')"); eval { spi_exec_query("insert into foo values ('1')"); }; elog(LOG, $@) if $@; $$ language plperl; select * from foo; You will see a row in foo. AFAICS PL/Tcl also does it, but I don't have it complied it to try. It does consitute a behaviour change, but we didn't get any complains when the same thing happened for Perl. > I am finding the treatment of savepoints very strange. > If as a function author I'm able to recover from errors then I'd expect > (or maybe want) to be able to manage them through savepoints Ooops, you found a bug there. In the attached patch you get the same error (SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION) as in master. Also added a unit test for that. > I've only glanced at your transaction manager patch, from what I can > tell it will give me another way of managing the inner transaction but > I'm not sure it will make the savepoint calls work(will it?). I also > wonder how useful in practice this patch will be if the other patch > doesn't also get applied (function others will be stuck with an all or > nothing as their options for error handling) As long as you don't catch SPIError, nothing changes. And error in a SPI call will propagate to the top of the Python stack and your function will be terminated, its effects being rolled back. The function will only work differently if you have bare except: clauses (that are deprecated in 2.x and forbidden in 3.x IIRC) or catch Exception. For example: begin; create table foo(i int primary key); DO $$ plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") $$ language plpython2u; No row will be inserted and the whole transaction will be rolled back. As for explicit subxact management, that's something that would be unique to PL/Python, and my other patch implements it like this: begin; create table foo(i int primary key); DO $$ try: with plpy.subxact(): plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") except plpy.SPIError: plpy.log("no rows inserted") $$ language plpython2u; Thanks again for the review and for spotting that bug! Cheers, Jan diff --git a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out index ea4a54c..4eeda6f 100644 *** a/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out --- b/src/pl/plpython/expected/plpython_error.out *** CREATE FUNCTION sql_syntax_error() RETUR *** 8,15 'plpy.execute("syntax error")' LANGUAGE plpythonu; SELECT sql_syntax_error(); - WARNING: plpy.SPIError: unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query - CONTEXT: PL/Python function "sql_syntax_error" ERROR: plpy.SPIError: syntax error at or near "syntax" LINE 1: syntax error ^ --- 8,13 *** CREATE FUNCTION e
Re: [HACKERS] pl/python SPI in subtransactions
On 10-12-23 08:45 AM, Jan Urbański wrote: Here's a patch implementing a executing SPI in an subtransaction mentioned in http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2010-12/msg01991.php. It's an incremental patch on top of the plpython-refactor patch sent eariler. Git branch for this patch: https://github.com/wulczer/postgres/tree/spi-in-subxacts. Without it the error handling in PL/Python is really broken, as we jump between from a saught longjmp back into Python without any cleanup. As an additional bonus you no longer get all the ugly "unrecognized error in PLy_spi_execute_query" errors. I see you've merged the changes from the refactoring branch down but haven't yet posted an updated patch. This review is based on 2f2b4a33bf344058620a5c684d1f2459e505c727 As a disclaimer, I have worked python before but not used plpython for anything substantial. Submission Review --- I think Jan intends to post an updated patch once the refactor branch has been dealt with. The patch updates the excepted results of the regression tests so they no longer expect the 'unrecognized error' warnings. No new unit test are added to verify that behavior changes will continue to function as intended (though they could be) No documentation updates are included. The current documentation is silent on the behaviour of plpython when SPI calls generate errors so this change doesn't invalidate any documentation but it would be nice if we described what effect SQL invoked through SPI from the functions have on the transaction. Maybe a "Trapping Errors" section? Usability Review --- Does the patch implement what it says: yes Do we want this: yes I think so. This patch allows pl/python functions to catch errors from the SQL they issue and deal with them as the function author sees fit. I see this being useful. A concern I have is that some users might find this surprising. For plpgsql the exception handling will rollback SQL from before the exception and I suspect the other PL's are the same. It would be good if a few more people chimed in on if they see this as a good idea. Another concern is that we are probably breaking some peoples code. Consider the following: BEGIN; create table foo(a int4 primary key); DO $$ r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") try : r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") except: plpy.log("something went wrong") $$ language plpython2u; select * FROM foo; a --- 1 (1 row) This code is going to behave different with the patch. Without the patch the select fails because a) the transaction has rolled back which rollsback both insert and the create table. With the patch the first row shows up in the select. How concerned are we with changing the behaviour of existing plpython functions? This needs discussion. I am finding the treatment of savepoints very strange. If as a function author I'm able to recover from errors then I'd expect (or maybe want) to be able to manage them through savepoints BEGIN; create table foo(a int4 primary key); DO $$ plpy.execute("savepoint save") r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") try : r=plpy.execute("insert into foo values ('1')") except: plpy.execute("rollback to save") plpy.log("something went wrong") $$ language plpython2u; select * FROM foo; a --- 1 (1 row) when I wrote the above I was expecting either an error when I tried to use the savepoint (like in plpgsql) or for it rollback the insert. Without the patch I get PL/Python: plpy.SPIError: SPI_execute failed: SPI_ERROR_TRANSACTION This is much better than silently ignoring the command. I've only glanced at your transaction manager patch, from what I can tell it will give me another way of managing the inner transaction but I'm not sure it will make the savepoint calls work(will it?). I also wonder how useful in practice this patch will be if the other patch doesn't also get applied (function others will be stuck with an all or nothing as their options for error handling) Code Review --- I don't see any issues with the code. Cheers, Jan -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers