Redhat 7.2.93 performance (was:Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL 7.2.1-2PGDG RPMs available for RedHat-skipjack 7.2.93 and RedHat 6.2/SPARC)

2002-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen

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On Sunday 14 April 2002 01:52 am, Hannu Krosing wrote:
 On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 08:48, Lamar Owen wrote:
  Incidentally, the 7.2.93 (skipjack) public beta is a serious improvement
  over RHL 7.2, and I personally recommend it, as KDE 3 is worth the
  upgrade, even to a beta.

 Is the 7.2.93 (skipjack) public beta an improvement in raw postgresql
 performance or just in added stuff like KDE ?

Hmmm.

Raw performance seems to be increased as well, due to an improved kernel 
(2.4.18 plus low-latency and preemptible patches, according to the kernel 
source RPM).  Although I am a little overwhelmed by the increased performance 
of this new Athlon 1.2+512MB RAM versus my old Celeron 650+192MB RAM, 7.2.93 
seems to be faster on the same hardware.

Particularly during the regression tests.
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Re: Redhat 7.2.93 performance (was:Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL 7.2.1-2PGDG RPMs available for RedHat-skipjack 7.2.93 and RedHat 6.2/SPARC)

2002-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen

On Sunday 14 April 2002 03:00 pm, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 02:35:13PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote:
  Raw performance seems to be increased as well, due to an improved kernel
  (2.4.18 plus low-latency and preemptible patches, according to the kernel
  source RPM).

 The low-latency and preemptible patches are not meant for performance
 gains, but for responsiveness, and are not designed to be used in servers,
 only in workstations/desktops.

ISTM that improving interactive performance would also improve multiuser 
performance in a server, as low latency and kernel preemption can increase 
multiuser server responsiveness.

  Although I am a little overwhelmed by the increased performance
  of this new Athlon 1.2+512MB RAM versus my old Celeron 650+192MB RAM,
  7.2.93 seems to be faster on the same hardware.

 2.4.18 does come with a improved VM, what could justify the performance
 increase. As could an update on the compiler (I've being using gcc 3.1 in
 my redhat 7.2).

The stock gcc on 7.2.93 is still the RedHat-branded 2.96, but with lots of 
fixes backported from higher versions.

However, the improved VM may indeed be a large part of it.  It sure feels 
faster.

 But I can't recomend the beta to anyone, we had problems with one
 dual pentium iii server, causing random corruption on
 /usr/include/*.h and a lock up.

Did you happen to report it to Red Hat's Skipjack list, or to 
bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla?  Helps make a better dist!

I have had less problems thus far with 7.2.93 than I ever did with 7.2.
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Re: Redhat 7.2.93 performance (was:Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL 7.2.1-2PGDG RPMs available for RedHat-skipjack 7.2.93 and RedHat 6.2/SPARC)

2002-04-14 Thread Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:15:39PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote:
 ISTM that improving interactive performance would also improve multiuser 
 performance in a server, as low latency and kernel preemption can increase 
 multiuser server responsiveness.
I doubt any performance will increase, either on a multiuser or on a
singleuser system.

Having faster response on mouse clicks or keyboard input doesn't translate
on better overall performance, the user just has the felling that it's so.

As an example, a part of those patches causes brakes in the middle of some
loops (saving buffers to disk, etc). Then other applications that don't
depend on disk activity can have change to run, so the system seems
faster, it's more responsive. But it won't actually be faster, the system
still has to lock again and continue saving the buffers. Actually, in this
case there will be an overhead caused by checking if the kernel should
brake.

However, both projects review the Linux code, and may find, if they
haven't already, some places were a finer locking may be used, giving a
better performance in a SMP system. But it could also break some
integrity.

Those patches are not recomended for a server, and now I'm curious to
check if the -enterprise configuration has them active.

 Did you happen to report it to Red Hat's Skipjack list, or to 
 bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla?  Helps make a better dist!
Alas, a bug report saying: the system crashed, I can't login remotely,
doesn't help a lot...

Regards,
Luciano Rocha

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