[HACKERS] What to do with my patch?

2003-12-21 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
The 14 december I submitted a patch that implements named function
arguments. So far no one have said anything about that. It would be nice
if someone could look at it and either reject, accept, put on queue, or
anything else.

The patch is very big (400k), but most of that size comes from trival
changes on the initial system tables.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Backwards index scan

2003-12-21 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Tom Lane wrote:


I have committed a fix into 7.5devel to do this properly.  I think this
is the last case wherein btree is unnecessarily inefficient for large
numbers of equal keys.


Any chance to have it on 7.4.1 ?

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Re: [HACKERS] What to do with my patch?

2003-12-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
Dennis Bjorklund wrote:
> The 14 december I submitted a patch that implements named function
> arguments. So far no one have said anything about that. It would be nice
> if someone could look at it and either reject, accept, put on queue, or
> anything else.
> 
> The patch is very big (400k), but most of that size comes from trival
> changes on the initial system tables.

Uh, I don't remember seeing your patch, and I don't have it in my
mailbox?  Which email list did you send it to?  Perhaps the email is
stuck waiting for Marc to accept it.

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Re: [HACKERS] What to do with my patch?

2003-12-21 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Uh, I don't remember seeing your patch, and I don't have it in my
> mailbox?  Which email list did you send it to?  Perhaps the email is
> stuck waiting for Marc to accept it.

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2003-12/msg00176.php

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Backwards index scan

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
Gaetano Mendola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> I have committed a fix into 7.5devel to do this properly.  I think this
>> is the last case wherein btree is unnecessarily inefficient for large
>> numbers of equal keys.

> Any chance to have it on 7.4.1 ?

No.  It's inadequately tested to go into a stable release, and anyway
I'm not sure what the interactions are with previous 7.5-only changes
for cross-datatype indexing.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] What to do with my patch?

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
Dennis Bjorklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The 14 december I submitted a patch that implements named function
> arguments. So far no one have said anything about that.

I have it on my to-look-at list, but I've been too busy trying to get
7.4.1 ready to do anything with pending patches.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL speakers needed for OSCON 2004

2003-12-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake






  


Would this be at all useful?

  
  
Someone mentioned that the 'fees' were relatively high though ... that you
lose a fair amount off the top *to* Sourceforge?

  

If we were going to do this, I would suggest just going right through
paypal. 




  
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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL speakers needed for OSCON 2004

2003-12-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
> >>
> >>Would this be at all useful?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Someone mentioned that the 'fees' were relatively high though ... that you
> >lose a fair amount off the top *to* Sourceforge?
> >
> >
> >
> If we were going to do this, I would suggest just going right through
> paypal.

I'd rather pay the high fees and actually have access to the money ...
Paypal I'm 110% *against* ... they have had *way* too many problems.  In
fact, there was a time when we ourselves setup the whole paypal account
and were looking at moving to it, until our clients started telling us
they wouldn't use it.  We, as a business, have had something like 25 "new
clients" sign up in the past month that its turning out are cards stolen
from clients who made purchases through paypal in the recent past ...

We (ie. Hub) just went through re-evaluating our online credit card
services, and are currently in the middle of moving our accounts to a
company called PaySystems (http://www.paysystems.com) that we've found to
have some of the better fees, and have yet to any major complaints about
their services ... we haven't found any major complaints about our current
one, but we just find we're losing too much money in the way of fees ...


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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL speakers needed for OSCON

2003-12-21 Thread Andrew Dunstan


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

 

Would this be at all useful?

   

Someone mentioned that the 'fees' were relatively high though ... that you
lose a fair amount off the top *to* Sourceforge?


 

If we were going to do this, I would suggest just going right through
paypal.
   

I'd rather pay the high fees and actually have access to the money ...
Paypal I'm 110% *against* ... they have had *way* too many problems.  In
fact, there was a time when we ourselves setup the whole paypal account
and were looking at moving to it, until our clients started telling us
they wouldn't use it.  We, as a business, have had something like 25 "new
clients" sign up in the past month that its turning out are cards stolen
from clients who made purchases through paypal in the recent past ...
We (ie. Hub) just went through re-evaluating our online credit card
services, and are currently in the middle of moving our accounts to a
company called PaySystems (http://www.paysystems.com) that we've found to
have some of the better fees, and have yet to any major complaints about
their services ... we haven't found any major complaints about our current
one, but we just find we're losing too much money in the way of fees ...
 

Agreed. You might also look at http://www.2checkout.com/ - I have heard 
they are OK, and their fees don't look outrageous. I also have a friend 
who runs a web payment service, who might be able to help. I can ask him 
if people are interested.

cheers

andrew



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[HACKERS] 7.4.1 tag'd and bundled ...

2003-12-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier

will do a general announce Monday afternoon, but if someone can test and
confirm that I haven't missed anything, that would be great...




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Re: [HACKERS] 7.4.1 tag'd and bundled ...

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> will do a general announce Monday afternoon, but if someone can test and
> confirm that I haven't missed anything, that would be great...

Looks solid from here ...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] What to do with my patch?

2003-12-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote:
> Dennis Bjorklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The 14 december I submitted a patch that implements named function
> > arguments. So far no one have said anything about that.
> 
> I have it on my to-look-at list, but I've been too busy trying to get
> 7.4.1 ready to do anything with pending patches.

OK, glad Tom has it.  I have never seen the patch before, and I am a
little confused how I could have missed it.  It isn't in my mailbox
either.

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[HACKERS] cascading column drop to index predicates

2003-12-21 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Hey Tom,

With regards to our previous conversation about dropping columns now 
properly dropping indexes that contain predicates that reference that 
column,  I now find it a bit disconcerting that such indexes are 
automatically removed when the column is dropped, instead of requiring a 
CASCADE.

The thing is, if you drop a column that is used in a normal index, yes 
the index is now useless - drop it.

However, since you can have (and I have) indexes like this:

CREATE INDEX asdf ON table (a, b, c) WHERE d IS NOT NULL;

If I drop column d, there is no way I want that index to just disappear!

This has already caught me out...

Can we change it to requiring a CASCADE?  Is that a good idea?

Chris

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Re: [HACKERS] cascading column drop to index predicates

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The thing is, if you drop a column that is used in a normal index, yes 
> the index is now useless - drop it.
> However, since you can have (and I have) indexes like this:
> CREATE INDEX asdf ON table (a, b, c) WHERE d IS NOT NULL;
> If I drop column d, there is no way I want that index to just disappear!

Uh, why not?  I don't quite see the argument why d stands in a different
relationship to this index than a,b,c do.  The index is equally
meaningless without any of them.

> Can we change it to requiring a CASCADE?

It'd likely be a simple code change, but first let's have the argument
why it's a good idea.

regards, tom lane

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