Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-25 Thread Gokulakannan Somasundaram
Hi,
Back from the holiday times. I have tried to present the proof, that the
null bitmap was absent in the table with the trailing nulls.

On Dec 22, 2007 4:43 AM, Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 20, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Gokulakannan Somasundaram wrote:
  I checked it by creating a table with 10 columns on a 32 bit
  machine. i inserted 100,000 rows with trailing nulls and i observed
  savings of 400Kbytes.


 That doesn't really tell us anything...

As i said that the patch removes the null bitmap, if the tuple has trailing
nulls. Our tuple size without null bitmap is 23 bytes. Currently, as long as
the table has less than 8 columns(with null), the heaptuple header size will
be 24 bytes. But if the tuple has more than 8 columns, then it will occupy 4
more bytes in a 32 bit system and 8 more bytes in a 64 bit system. This
patch attempts to save that extra space, if the tuple has only trailing
nulls


 how big was the table
 originally?

I think it was 5.5 M and 5.1M before and after applying the patch. But how
is this relevant? The patch saves 4 bytes in a 32 bit system per tuple,
irrespective of the size of the tuple


 Also, testing on 64 bit would be interesting.

I tested the patch on 64 bit system also for regression. The saving was 8
bytes per tuple.

I have attempted to provide an explanation. But i don't know whether i have
answered your doubts exactly.
Please revert back, in case you haven't got clarified.



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Thanks,
Gokul.
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Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-21 Thread Decibel!

On Dec 20, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Gokulakannan Somasundaram wrote:
I checked it by creating a table with 10 columns on a 32 bit  
machine. i inserted 100,000 rows with trailing nulls and i observed  
savings of 400Kbytes.



That doesn't really tell us anything... how big was the table  
originally? Also, testing on 64 bit would be interesting.

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Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-20 Thread Gokulakannan Somasundaram
Thanks for the suggestions. I am re-submitting the patch in contextual diff
format.

As far as storage savings are concened, the patch claims whatever is stated.
I checked it by creating a table with 10 columns on a 32 bit machine. i
inserted 100,000 rows with trailing nulls and i observed savings of
400Kbytes.
I did a similar test for index and i found similar space saving.

I have tested regression in both 32 bit system and 64 bit system.

Please go through the patch and provide further suggestions.

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Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-19 Thread Gokulakannan Somasundaram
I have submitted the first working patch for the trailing null optimization.
It currently does the following
a) Doesn't store the null bitmap, if the heap tuple / index tuple contains
only trailing nulls
b) In Heap Tuple, the trailing nulls won't occupy space in the null bitmap.

The General design is like this
a) After checking for trailing nulls, i reduce the number of attributes
field, which gets stored in each heap tuple.
b) For Index, i have changed the Index_form_tuple to store the unaligned
total size in the size mask. While navigating through the index tuple, if
the offset exceeds the unaligned total size stored, then a null is returned

Please review it and provide suggestions.



 
  I doubt you have fixed it; I doubt it's *possible* to fix it without
  significant rejiggering of IndexTuple representation.  The problem is
  that IndexTuple lacks a number-of-fields field, so there is no place
  to indicate how many null bitmap bits you have actually stored.


Actually i have made one change to the structure of IndexTupleData. Instead
of storing the Aligned size in the size mask, i have stored the  un-aligned
size. I am storing the size before the final MAXALIGN. The interface remains
un-changed. IndexTupleSize does a MAXALIGN before returning the size value.
so the interface remains un-changed.  The advantage of storing the
un-aligned size is that we can get both aligned size and un-aligned size(As
you may know). I have created two more macros to return the un-aligned size.






  I would suggest forgetting that part and submitting the part that
  has some chance of getting accepted.


Actually i want to submit the patch, which is best according to me.




 I suspect there's also an awkward case that *does* need to handled when
 you
 insert a tuple which has a null column which you're leaving out of the
 tuple
 but which appears in an index. You would have to make sure that the index
 tuple has that datum listed as NULL even though it's entirely missing from
 the
 heap tuple.

 Actually this is taken care because of your suggestion. When you add a new
column, it doesn't appear in the heaptuple, but if you create an index on
that column afterwards, the case is handled. There is a field in HeapTuple,
which mentions the number of attributes in the tuple. If we are requesting
for attribute numbers greater than this number, it is returned as null. So
that problem was taken care.


-- 
Thanks,
Gokul.
CertoSQL Project,
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Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] Proposal for Null Bitmap Optimization(for TrailingNULLs)

2007-12-19 Thread Andrew Dunstan



Gokulakannan Somasundaram wrote:
 
 
  



 I would suggest forgetting that part and submitting the part that
 has some chance of getting accepted.


Actually i want to submit the patch, which is best according to me.
 



That's not an attitude that is likely to succeed - you need to take 
suggestions from Tom very seriously.


Also, please submit patches as context diffs, as set out in the 
Developer FAQ, which you should probably read carefully: 
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ_DEV.html


cheers

andrew

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