Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-06 Thread Michael Paesold

Bruce Momjian wrote:


Bruce Momjian wrote:

This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL.
Some people might not want full_page_writes.


Fsync linkage removed, patch attached and applied.


...
+ When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
+ writes full pages to WAL when they first modified after a checkpoint
+ so full recovery is possible.

I believe this should be when they _are_ first modified after.

Perhaps you should also mention power failure, not only an operating system 
crash as disaster scenario, even if the latter includes the former.


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Michael Paesold 



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Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
Michael Paesold wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
 
  Bruce Momjian wrote:
  This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL.
  Some people might not want full_page_writes.
 
  Fsync linkage removed, patch attached and applied.
 
 ...
 + When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
 + writes full pages to WAL when they first modified after a checkpoint
 + so full recovery is possible.
 
 I believe this should be when they _are_ first modified after.
 
 Perhaps you should also mention power failure, not only an operating system 
 crash as disaster scenario, even if the latter includes the former.
 

Thanks.  Done.

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***
*** 1705,1715 
  
 para
  When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
! writes full pages to WAL when they first modified after a checkpoint
! so full recovery is possible. Turning this option off might lead
! to a corrupt system after an operating system crash because
! uncorrected partial pages might contain inconsistent or corrupt
! data. The risks are less but similar to varnamefsync/.
 /para
  
 para
--- 1705,1716 
  
 para
  When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
! writes full pages to WAL when they are first modified after a
! checkpoint so full recovery is possible. Turning this option off
! might lead to a corrupt system after an operating system crash
! or power failure because uncorrected partial pages might contain
! inconsistent or corrupt data. The risks are less but similar to
! varnamefsync/.
 /para
  
 para

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Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL. 
 Some people might not want full_page_writes.

Fsync linkage removed, patch attached and applied.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian|  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us   |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive, |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.|  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
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retrieving revision 1.335
diff -c -c -r1.335 runtime.sgml
*** doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml   2 Jul 2005 19:16:36 -   1.335
--- doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml   5 Jul 2005 23:15:33 -
***
*** 1660,1666 
  
 para
  This option can only be set at server start or in the
! filenamepostgresql.conf/filename file.
 /para
/listitem
   /varlistentry
--- 1660,1668 
  
 para
  This option can only be set at server start or in the
! filenamepostgresql.conf/filename file.  If this option
! is literaloff/, consider also turning off 
! varnameguc-full-page-writes/.
 /para
/listitem
   /varlistentry
***
*** 1687,1692 
--- 1689,1725 
/listitem
   /varlistentry
   
+  varlistentry id=guc-full-page-writes xreflabel=full_page_writes
+   indexterm
+primaryvarnamefull_page_writes/ configuration parameter/primary
+   /indexterm
+   termvarnamefull_page_writes/varname (typeboolean/type)/term
+   listitem
+para
+ A page write in process during an operating system crash might
+ be only partially written to disk, leading to an on-disk page
+ that contains a mix of old and new data. During recovery, the
+ row changes stored in WAL are not enough to completely restore
+ the page.
+/para
+ 
+para
+ When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
+ writes full pages to WAL when they first modified after a checkpoint
+ so full recovery is possible. Turning this option off might lead
+ to a corrupt system after an operating system crash because
+ uncorrected partial pages might contain inconsistent or corrupt
+ data. The risks are less but similar to varnamefsync/.
+/para
+ 
+para
+ This option can only be set at server start or in the
+ filenamepostgresql.conf/filename file.  The default is
+ literalon/.
+/para
+   /listitem
+  /varlistentry
+  
   varlistentry id=guc-wal-buffers xreflabel=wal_buffers
termvarnamewal_buffers/varname (typeinteger/type)/term
indexterm
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retrieving revision 1.206
diff -c -c -r1.206 xlog.c
*** src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c   4 Jul 2005 04:51:44 -   1.206
--- src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c   5 Jul 2005 23:15:36 -
***
*** 103,108 
--- 103,109 
  char *XLogArchiveCommand = NULL;
  char *XLOG_sync_method = NULL;
  const charXLOG_sync_method_default[] = DEFAULT_SYNC_METHOD_STR;
+ bool  fullPageWrites = true;
  
  #ifdef WAL_DEBUG
  bool  XLOG_DEBUG = false;
***
*** 594,600 
{
/* OK, put it in this slot */
dtbuf[i] = rdt-buffer;
!   if (XLogCheckBuffer(rdt, 
(dtbuf_lsn[i]), (dtbuf_xlg[i])))
{
dtbuf_bkp[i] = true;
rdt-data = NULL;
--- 595,603 
{
/* OK, put it in this slot */
dtbuf[i] = rdt-buffer;
!   /* If fsync is off, no need to backup 
pages. */
!   if (fullPageWrites 
!   XLogCheckBuffer(rdt, 
(dtbuf_lsn[i]), (dtbuf_xlg[i])))
{
dtbuf_bkp[i] = true;
rdt-data = NULL;
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--- src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c5 Jul 2005 23:15:39 -
***
*** 83,88 

Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-04 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruce Momjian (pgman@candle.pha.pa.us) wrote:
 This patch disables page writes to WAL when fsync is off, because with
 no fsync guarantee, the page write recovery isn't useful.

This doesn't seem quite right to me.  What happens with PITR?  And
Postgres crashes?  While many people seriously distrust running w/ fsync
off, I'm sure there's quite a few folks which do.

 This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL. 
 Some people might not want full_page_writes, but still might want fsync.

Adding an option to not do page writes to WAL seems fine to me, but I
think WAL writes should be on by default, even in the fsync=off case.
If people want to turn it off, fine, for either case since we expect
they understand what it means to have it turned off, but I don't think
the two options should be coupled as is being proposed.

Thanks,

Stephen


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Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 This patch disables page writes to WAL when fsync is off, because
 with no fsync guarantee, the page write recovery isn't useful.

 This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL.
 Some people might not want full_page_writes, but still might want
 fsync.

Do you have some numbers to suggest that there is a performance benefit 
to be had?

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Re: [PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
  This patch disables page writes to WAL when fsync is off, because
  with no fsync guarantee, the page write recovery isn't useful.
 
  This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL.
  Some people might not want full_page_writes, but still might want
  fsync.
 
 Do you have some numbers to suggest that there is a performance benefit 
 to be had?

Josh reported page writes to be a big hit (which we already knew), but I
don't have any with fsync off, though it seems like a no-brainer. 
However, I am thinking decoupling them is best.

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[PATCHES] Disable page writes when fsync off, add GUC

2005-07-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
This patch disables page writes to WAL when fsync is off, because with
no fsync guarantee, the page write recovery isn't useful.

This also adds a full_page_writes GUC to turn off page writes to WAL. 
Some people might not want full_page_writes, but still might want fsync.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian|  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us   |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive, |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.|  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
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RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.335
diff -c -c -r1.335 runtime.sgml
*** doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml   2 Jul 2005 19:16:36 -   1.335
--- doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml   4 Jul 2005 03:58:34 -
***
*** 1687,1692 
--- 1687,1723 
/listitem
   /varlistentry
   
+  varlistentry id=guc-full-page-writes xreflabel=full_page_writes
+   indexterm
+primaryvarnamefull_page_writes/ configuration parameter/primary
+   /indexterm
+   termvarnamefull_page_writes/varname (typeboolean/type)/term
+   listitem
+para
+ A page write in process during an operating system crash might
+ be only partially written to disk, leading to an on-disk page
+ that contains a mix of old and new data. During recovery, the
+ row changes stored in WAL are not enough to recover from this
+ situation.
+/para
+ 
+para
+ When this option is on, the productnamePostgreSQL/ server
+ writes full pages when first modified after a checkpoint to WAL
+ so full recovery is possible. Turning this option off might lead
+ to a corrupt system after an operating system crash because
+ uncorrected partial pages might contain inconsistent or corrupt
+ data. The risks are less but similar to varnamefsync/.
+/para
+ 
+para
+ This option can only be set at server start or in the
+ filenamepostgresql.conf/filename file.  The default is
+ literalon/.
+/para
+   /listitem
+  /varlistentry
+  
   varlistentry id=guc-wal-buffers xreflabel=wal_buffers
termvarnamewal_buffers/varname (typeinteger/type)/term
indexterm
Index: src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c
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RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c,v
retrieving revision 1.205
diff -c -c -r1.205 xlog.c
*** src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c   30 Jun 2005 00:00:50 -  1.205
--- src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c   4 Jul 2005 03:58:38 -
***
*** 97,102 
--- 97,103 
  char *XLogArchiveCommand = NULL;
  char *XLOG_sync_method = NULL;
  const charXLOG_sync_method_default[] = DEFAULT_SYNC_METHOD_STR;
+ bool  fullPageWrites = true;
  
  #ifdef WAL_DEBUG
  bool  XLOG_DEBUG = false;
***
*** 593,599 
{
/* OK, put it in this slot */
dtbuf[i] = rdt-buffer;
!   if (XLogCheckBuffer(rdt, 
(dtbuf_lsn[i]), (dtbuf_xlg[i])))
{
dtbuf_bkp[i] = true;
rdt-data = NULL;
--- 594,602 
{
/* OK, put it in this slot */
dtbuf[i] = rdt-buffer;
!   /* If fsync is off, no need to backup 
pages. */
!   if (enableFsync  fullPageWrites 
!   XLogCheckBuffer(rdt, 
(dtbuf_lsn[i]), (dtbuf_xlg[i])))
{
dtbuf_bkp[i] = true;
rdt-data = NULL;
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retrieving revision 1.271
diff -c -c -r1.271 guc.c
*** src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c28 Jun 2005 05:09:02 -  1.271
--- src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c4 Jul 2005 03:58:46 -
***
*** 82,87 
--- 82,88 
  extern intCommitDelay;
  extern intCommitSiblings;
  extern char *default_tablespace;
+ extern bool   fullPageWrites;
  
  static const char *assign_log_destination(const char *value,
   bool doit, GucSource source);
***
*** 482,487 
--- 483,500 
false, NULL, NULL
},
{
+   {full_page_writes, PGC_SIGHUP,