Re: [PERFORM] Moving postgresql.conf tunables into 2003...

2003-07-06 Thread Matthew Nuzum
 
 Brian Suggests:
  I'm curious how many of the configuration values can be determined
  automatically, or with the help of some script.  It seem like there
  could be some perl script in contrib that could help figure this out.
  Possibly you are asked a bunch of questions and then the values are
  computed based on that.   Something like:
 
 This would be great!  Wanna be in charge of it?
 

Is there a to-do list for this kind of stuff?  Maybe there could be a help
wanted sign on the website.  Seems like there are lot's of good ideas that
fly around here but never get followed up on.

Additionally, I have an increasingly large production database that I would
be willing to do some test-cases on.  I don't really know how to do it
though... If someone where able to give instructions I could run tests on
three different platforms.

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Re: [PERFORM] Moving postgresql.conf tunables into 2003...

2003-07-06 Thread Michael Pohl
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Matthew Nuzum wrote:

 At the very least, if there is good documentation for these parameters,
 maybe the conf file should provide a link to this info. 

I believe that is what Josh is proposing:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2003-07/msg00102.php

 [Apache httpd] uses a three phase (if not more) documentation level.  
 The .conf file contains detailed instructions in an easy to read and
 not-to-jargon-ish structure.  The docs provide detailed tutorials and
 papers that expand on configuration params in an easy to read format.  
 Both of these refer to the thorough reference manual that breaks each
 possible option down into it's nitty gritty details so that a user can
 get more information if they so desire.

I agree that Apache's approach is primo.  Often the .conf comments are
enough to jog my memory about a directive I haven't used for a while.  Or
the comments are enough to let me know I don't need a directive, or that I
need to go to the manual and read more.  I appreciate that.

michael


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Re: [PERFORM] Moving postgresql.conf tunables into 2003...

2003-07-06 Thread Martin Foster
Michael Pohl wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Matthew Nuzum wrote:


At the very least, if there is good documentation for these parameters,
maybe the conf file should provide a link to this info. 


I believe that is what Josh is proposing:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2003-07/msg00102.php


[Apache httpd] uses a three phase (if not more) documentation level.  
The .conf file contains detailed instructions in an easy to read and
not-to-jargon-ish structure.  The docs provide detailed tutorials and
papers that expand on configuration params in an easy to read format.  
Both of these refer to the thorough reference manual that breaks each
possible option down into it's nitty gritty details so that a user can
get more information if they so desire.


I agree that Apache's approach is primo.  Often the .conf comments are
enough to jog my memory about a directive I haven't used for a while.  Or
the comments are enough to let me know I don't need a directive, or that I
need to go to the manual and read more.  I appreciate that.
michael



One thing that may also help, is to include more sample .conf files. 
For example, you could include settings that would be commonly seen for 
decicated databases with generic specs and another with less resources 
and not dedicated for use with Postgres.

This would allow users to see how certain setting changes will work. 
The default .conf is great if you want to setup a small test bed, but 
for a real life example chances are it won't exactly be what your 
looking for.

Martin Foster
Creator/Designer Ethereal Realms
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