Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL over internet

2013-01-27 Thread k...@rice.edu
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 03:09:55PM +0300, belal hamed wrote:
 Here is your problem. You need to understand the performance
 characteristics of your communication channel. ADSL is a VERY
 asymmetric communications channel. Down is usually much faster
 than up.
 
 How it could be ADSL problem when it's the same in tow tests ?
 beside data transferred when using tunnel is much bigger (about 10KB)  than
 direct connection (400B)
 so it should be slower when using tunnel but the result shows it was faster
 
 

Due to the asymmetric communication, a bigger data output in a single
packet (the result of using compression on the tunnel) will get sent
without waiting. A smaller packet will delay a bit waiting for some
additional data, which in your case does not come. You may want to 
check out this document describing some of what I believe is causing
your observed behavior:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/ADSL-Bandwidth-Management-HOWTO.html#BACKGROUND

 When you wrap the communication channel in an IP tunnel, you are
 collapsing much of the syn-ack of the libpq protocol. You can see
 the same effect trying to run any sort of X windows application.
 
 If that so, why these is not same option in Postgresql, Is it necessary to
 use IP tunnel to do that and perform fast fetch?
 
 
 Try creating a simple SSH tunnel
 my server is windows 7
 
 It should be possible to distinguish between:
   - slowness caused by the database query itself
   - slowness caused by the network fundamentally.
   - slowness caused by the postgresql/libpq.
 
 I run the same query on same network connection so I eliminate the
 slowness caused by the database query and network fundamentally,
 nothing left but postgresql/libpq
 
 not anyone consider there may be a bug when connection to a remote server
 over internet in libpq
 the only different when I used the tunnel is I connect to localhost
 instead  of server IP or domain name (I try both)

You would find that if you log in to your DB server and use libpq
to it over a localhost connection that the performance is good which
points to your network as the problem.

Regards,
Ken


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Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL over internet

2013-01-27 Thread David Rowley


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[mailto:pgsql-performance-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of belal hamed
 Sent: 27 January 2013 13:16
 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
 Subject: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL over internet


 by wireshark I monitor TCP packets I found total data transmit/received
400B
 I took about 2.5s to fetch resultsĀ  why ??


Are you sure there's not any QOS somewhere that is slowing down the packets
for port 5432 or whichever you're using for PostgreSQL?
Perhaps temporarily changing PostgreSQL's listening port to something else
might be a good test.

David



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