Re: [PERFORM] Vacuum takes a really long time, vacuum full required

2004-10-23 Thread Max Baker
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 11:40:17AM -0400, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > Whatever the case, the database still slows down to a halt after a month or
> > so, and I have to go in and shut everything down and do a VACUUM FULL by
> > hand.  One index (of many many) takes 2000 seconds to vacuum.  The whole
> > process takes a few hours.
> 
> Do a REINDEX on that table instead, and regular vacuum more frequently.
> 
> > $ pg_config --version
> > PostgreSQL 7.3.2
> 
> 7.4.x deals with index growth a little better 7.3 and older did.

I did a REINDEX of the database.  The results are pretty insane, the db went
from 16GB to 381MB.  Needless to say things are running a lot faster. 

I will now take Tom's well-given advice and upgrade to 7.4.  But at least
now I have something to tell my users who are not able to do a DB upgrade
for whatever reason.

Thanks for all your help folks!
-m

Before:
# du -h pgsql   
135Kpgsql/global
128Mpgsql/pg_xlog
 80Mpgsql/pg_clog
3.6Mpgsql/base/1
3.6Mpgsql/base/16975
1.0Kpgsql/base/16976/pgsql_tmp
 16Gpgsql/base/16976
 16Gpgsql/base
 16Gpgsql

After Reindex:
# du /data/pgsql/
131K/data/pgsql/global
128M/data/pgsql/pg_xlog
 81M/data/pgsql/pg_clog
3.6M/data/pgsql/base/1
3.6M/data/pgsql/base/16975
1.0K/data/pgsql/base/16976/pgsql_tmp
268M/data/pgsql/base/16976
275M/data/pgsql/base
484M/data/pgsql/

After Vacuum:
# du /data/pgsql/  
131K/data/pgsql/global
144M/data/pgsql/pg_xlog
 81M/data/pgsql/pg_clog
3.6M/data/pgsql/base/1
3.6M/data/pgsql/base/16975
1.0K/data/pgsql/base/16976/pgsql_tmp
149M/data/pgsql/base/16976
156M/data/pgsql/base
381M/data/pgsql/

netdisco=> select relname, relpages from pg_class order by relpages desc;

Before:
 relname | relpages 
-+--
 idx_node_switch_port_active |   590714
 idx_node_switch_port|   574344
 idx_node_switch |   482202
 idx_node_mac|   106059
 idx_node_mac_active |99842

After:
 relname | relpages 
-+--
 node_ip |13829
 node| 9560
 device_port | 2124
 node_ip_pkey| 1354
 idx_node_ip_ip  | 1017
 idx_node_ip_mac_active  |  846


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Re: [PERFORM] Free PostgreSQL Training, Philadelphia, Oct 30

2004-10-19 Thread Max Baker
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:21:27PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> All,
>   My company (Chariot Solutions) is sponsoring a day of free
> PostgreSQL training by Bruce Momjian (one of the core PostgreSQL
> developers).  The day is split into 2 sessions (plus a Q&A session):
> 
>  * Mastering PostgreSQL Administration
>  * PostgreSQL Performance Tuning
> 
>   Registration is required, and space is limited.  The location is
> Malvern, PA (suburb of Philadelphia) and it's on Saturday Oct 30.  For
> more information or to register, see
> 
> http://chariotsolutions.com/postgresql.jsp

I'm up in New York City and would be taking the train down to Philly.  Is
anyone coming from Philly or New York that would be able to give me a lift
to/from the train station?  Sounds like a great event.

Cheers,
-m

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Re: [PERFORM] Vacuum takes a really long time, vacuum full required

2004-10-19 Thread Max Baker
Hi Rod,

On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 11:40:17AM -0400, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > Whatever the case, the database still slows down to a halt after a month or
> > so, and I have to go in and shut everything down and do a VACUUM FULL by
> > hand.  One index (of many many) takes 2000 seconds to vacuum.  The whole
> > process takes a few hours.
> 
> Do a REINDEX on that table instead, and regular vacuum more frequently.

Great, this is exactly what I think it needs.  Meanwhile, I was checking out

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/sql-reindex.html

Which suggests I might be able to do a drop/add on each index with the
database 'live'.

However, the DROP INDEX command was taking an awfully long time to complete
and it hung my app in the mean time.   Does anyone know if the DROP INDEX
causes an exclusive lock, or is it just a lengthy process?

> > $ pg_config --version
> > PostgreSQL 7.3.2
> 
> 7.4.x deals with index growth a little better 7.3 and older did.

Will do.  Meanwhile I'm stuck supporting older 7.x versions, so I'm still
looking for a solution for them.

Thanks!
-m

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[PERFORM] Vacuum takes a really long time, vacuum full required

2004-10-19 Thread Max Baker
Hi Folks,

This is my _4th_ time trying to post this, me and the mailing list software
are fighting.  I think it's because of the attachments so I'll just put
links to them instead.  All apologies if this gets duplicated.

I've been having problems maintaining the speed of the database in the
long run.  VACUUMs of the main tables happen a few times a day after maybe
50,000 or less rows are added and deleted (say 6 times a day).

I have a whole lot (probably too much) indexing going on to try to speed
things up. 

Whatever the case, the database still slows down to a halt after a month or
so, and I have to go in and shut everything down and do a VACUUM FULL by
hand.  One index (of many many) takes 2000 seconds to vacuum.  The whole
process takes a few hours.

I would love suggestions on what I can do either inside my application, or
from a dba point of view to keep the database maintained without having to
inflict downtime.  This is for 'Netdisco' -- an open source network
management software by the way.  I'ld like to fix this for everyone who uses
it.


Sys Info :

$ uname -a
FreeBSD .ucsc.edu 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 16
14:56:19 PDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/  i386

$ pg_config --version
PostgreSQL 7.3.2

$ cat postgresql.conf
max_connections = 32
shared_buffers = 3900   # 30Mb - Bsd current kernel limit
max_fsm_relations = 1000# min 10, fsm is free space map, ~40 bytes
max_fsm_pages = 1   # min 1000, fsm is free space map, ~6 bytes
max_locks_per_transaction = 64  # min 10
wal_buffers = 8 # min 4, typically 8KB each

The log of the vacuum and the db schema could not be attached, so they are
at : 
http://netdisco.net/db_vacuum.txt
http://netdisco.net/pg_all.input

Thanks for any help!
-m

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[PERFORM] test post

2004-10-05 Thread Max Baker
please ignore if this goes through.  They've been bouncing and I'm trying to
find out why.

-m

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