Re: [PERFORM] Quad processor options

2004-05-11 Thread Rob Sell

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjoern Metzdorf
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:11 PM
To: scott.marlowe
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Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Quad processor options

scott.marlowe wrote:
Next drives I'll buy will certainly be 15k scsi drives.
 
 Better to buy more 10k drives than fewer 15k drives.  Other than slightly 
 faster select times, the 15ks aren't really any faster.

Good to know. I'll remember that.

In peak times we can get up to 700-800 connections at the same time. 
There are quite some updates involved, without having exact numbers I'll 
think that we have about 70% selects and 30% updates/inserts.
 
 Wow, a lot of writes then.

Yes, it certainly could also be only 15-20% updates/inserts, but this is 
also not negligible.

 Sure, adaptec makes one, so does lsi megaraid.  Dell resells both of 
 these, the PERC3DI and the PERC3DC are adaptec, then lsi in that order, I 
 believe.  We run the lsi megaraid with 64 megs battery backed cache.

The LSI sounds good.

 Intel also makes one, but I've heard nothing about it.

It could well be the ICP Vortex one, ICP was bought by Intel some time ago..

 I haven't directly tested anything but the adaptec and the lsi megaraid.  
 Here at work we've had massive issues trying to get the adaptec cards 
 configured and installed on, while the megaraid was a snap.  Installed RH,

 installed the dkms rpm, installed the dkms enabled megaraid driver and 
 rebooted.  Literally, that's all it took.

I didn't hear anything about dkms for debian, so I will be hand-patching 
as usual :)

Regards,
Bjoern


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Personally I would stay away from anything intel over 2 processors.  I have
done some research and if memory serves it something like this. Intel's
architecture makes each processor compete for bandwidth on the bus to the
ram. Amd differs in that each proc has its own bus to the ram.

Don't take this as god's honest fact but just keep it in mind when
considering a Xeon solution, it may be worth your time to do some deeper
research into this. There is some on this here
http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/ 

Rob


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Re: [PERFORM] Configuring PostgreSQL to minimize impact of checkpoints

2004-05-11 Thread Rob Sell


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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Configuring PostgreSQL to minimize impact of
checkpoints

On Tue, 11 May 2004, Paul Tuckfield wrote:

 If you are having a write storm or bursty writes that's burying 
 performance, a scsi raid controler with writeback cache will greatly 
 improve the situation, but I do believe they run around $1-2k.   If 
 it's write specific problem, the cache matters more than the striping, 
 except to say that write specfic perf problems should avoid raid5

Actually, a single channel MegaRAID 320-1 (single channel ultra 320) is 
only $421 at http://www.siliconmechanics.com/c248/u320-scsi.php  It works 
pretty well for me, having 6 months of a production server on one with 
zero hickups and very good performance.  They have a dual channel intel 
card for only $503, but I'm not at all familiar with that card.

The top of the line megaraid is the 320-4, which is only $1240, which 
ain't bad for a four channel RAID controller.

Battery backed cache is an addon, but I think it's only about $80 or so.


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If you don't mind slumming on ebay :-) keep an eye out for PERC III cards,
they are dell branded LSI cards. Perc = Power Edge Raid Controller. There
are models on there dual channel u320 and dell usually sells them with
battery backed cache.  That's how I have acquired all my high end raid
cards.

Rob


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Re: [PERFORM] Pg+Linux swap use

2003-10-31 Thread Rob Sell
Not being one to hijack threads, but I haven't heard of this performance hit
when using HT, I have what should all rights be a pretty fast server, dual
2.4 Xeons with HT 205gb raid 5 array, 1 gig of memory. And it is only 50% as
fast as my old server which was a dual AMD MP 1400's with a 45gb raid 5
array and 1gb of ram. I have read everything I could find on Pg performance
tweaked all the variables that were suggested and nothing. Which is why I
subscribed to this list, just been lurking so far but this caught my eye. 

Rob

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:03:59PM -0200, alexandre :: aldeia digital wrote:
 Scott, Jeff and Shridhar:
 
 1 GB RAM :)
 
 The stock kernels are not the same, HyperThreading enabled. 80

Some people have reported that things actually slow down with HT
enabled.  Have you tried turning it off?

A

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