[PERFORM] Bad performance with hashjoin
Here's the query: --- SELECT * FROM bv_reviews r, bv_votes v WHERE r.vote_id = v.vote_id AND v.book_id = 113 --- bv_votes has around 7000 rows with the given book_id and bv_reviews has 10 reviews. Thus the resulting table consists of only 10 rows. That's the regular EXPLAIN of the query: --- QUERY PLAN Hash Join (cost=169.36..49635.37 rows=2117 width=897) (actual time=13533.550..15107.987 rows=10 loops=1) Hash Cond: (outer.vote_id = inner.vote_id) - Seq Scan on bv_reviews r (cost=0.00..45477.42 rows=396742 width=881) (actual time=12.020..13305.055 rows=396742 loops=1) - Hash (cost=151.96..151.96 rows=6960 width=16) (actual time=24.673..24.673 rows=0 loops=1) - Index Scan using i_votes_book_id on bv_votes v (cost=0.00..151.96 rows=6960 width=16) (actual time=0.035..14.970 rows=7828 loops=1) Index Cond: (book_id = 113) Total runtime: 15109.126 ms --- And here is what happens when I turn the hashjoin to off: --- QUERY PLAN Nested Loop (cost=0.00..53799.79 rows=2117 width=897) (actual time=4.260..79.721 rows=10 loops=1) - Index Scan using i_votes_book_id on bv_votes v (cost=0.00..151.96 rows=6960 width=16) (actual time=0.071..14.100 rows=7828 loops=1) Index Cond: (book_id = 113) - Index Scan using i_bv_reviews_vote_id on bv_reviews r (cost=0.00..7.70 rows=1 width=881) (actual time=0.007..0.007 rows=0 loops=7828) Index Cond: (r.vote_id = outer.vote_id) Total runtime: 79.830 ms --- What am I to do? Are there hints (like in Oracle) in PostgreSQL to force it to use the i_bv_reviews_vote_id index instead of doing a seq.scan? Or is something wrong with my Postgresql settings? -- ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[PERFORM] Performance hit on loading from HD
I have a problem with certain queries performance. Trouble is that while their execution plan is pretty good and mostly their execution is great as well, their FIRST execution time (that is after you mount the database) is abysmal. I realize that it happens due to the loading of data from the HD to the memory/swap and it wouldn't be too bad if I just could make the data stay in the memory, sadly, after a few minutes the data is back on the HD and running the query again results the same bad performance. Here's a query for example, though as I said, this problem occurs in different queries. --- SELECT * FROM bv_bookgenres, bv_books WHERE bv_books.book_id = bv_bookgenres.book_id and genre_id = 987 ORDER BY vote_avg limit 10 --- --- QUERY PLAN Limit (cost=2601.16..2601.18 rows=10 width=193) (actual time=4735.097..4735.107 rows=10 loops=1) - Sort (cost=2601.16..2601.70 rows=219 width=193) (actual time=4735.092..4735.095 rows=10 loops=1) Sort Key: bv_books.vote_avg - Nested Loop (cost=0.00..2592.64 rows=219 width=193) (actual time=74.615..4719.147 rows=1877 loops=1) - Index Scan using i_bookgenres_genre_id on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..1707.03 rows=218 width=4) (actual time=74.540..2865.366 rows=1877 loops=1) Index Cond: (genre_id = 987) - Index Scan using bv_books_pkey on bv_books (cost=0.00..4.05 rows=1 width=193) (actual time=0.968..0.971 rows=1 loops=1877) Index Cond: (bv_books.book_id = outer.book_id) Total runtime: 4735.726 ms --- If I run the query again after it just finished running I would get the following timing: --- Limit (cost=3937.82..3937.84 rows=10 width=204) - Sort (cost=3937.82..3938.38 rows=223 width=204) Sort Key: bv_books.vote_avg - Nested Loop (cost=0.00..3929.12 rows=223 width=204) - Index Scan using i_bookgenres_genre_id on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..1731.94 rows=222 width=8) Index Cond: (genre_id = 987) - Index Scan using bv_books_pkey on bv_books (cost=0.00..9.88 rows=1 width=196) Index Cond: (bv_books.book_id = outer.book_id) --- Before going on, I should say that I am running PostgreSQL on CoLinux under Windows 2000. From what I read/tested, the CoLinux performance on CoLinux are matching to the performance of VMWare. Yet, I'm still wondering if it is a side effect of my development setup or if some of my settings are indeed wrong. With that said, here is the information of the tables: --- CREATE TABLE bv_books ( book_id serial NOT NULL, book_name varchar(255) NOT NULL, series_id int4, series_index int2, annotation_desc_id int4, description_desc_id int4, book_picture varchar(255) NOT NULL, reviews_error int4 NOT NULL, vote_avg float4 NOT NULL, vote_count int4 NOT NULL, book_genre int4[], book_name_fulltext tsearch2.tsvector, book_name_fulltext2 tsearch2.tsvector, CONSTRAINT bv_books_pkey PRIMARY KEY (book_id), CONSTRAINT fk_books_annotation_desc_id FOREIGN KEY (annotation_desc_id) REFERENCES bv_descriptions (description_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE SET NULL, CONSTRAINT fk_books_description_desc_id FOREIGN KEY (description_desc_id) REFERENCES bv_descriptions (description_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE SET NULL, CONSTRAINT fk_books_series_id FOREIGN KEY (series_id) REFERENCES bv_series (series_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE RESTRICT ) WITH OIDS; CREATE TABLE bv_bookgenres ( book_id int4 NOT NULL, genre_id int4 NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT bv_bookgenres_pkey PRIMARY KEY (book_id, genre_id), CONSTRAINT fk_bookgenres_book_id FOREIGN KEY (book_id) REFERENCES bv_books (book_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE CASCADE, CONSTRAINT fk_bookgenres_genre_id FOREIGN KEY (genre_id) REFERENCES bv_genres (genre_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE RESTRICT ) WITH OIDS; --- As far as the data is concerned, there are around 170,000 rows in bv_books and 940,000 in bv_bookgenres. There are also btree index on all the relevant (to the query) fields. I can live up with the fact that the data has to be loaded the first time it is accessed, but is it possible to make it stick longer in the memory? Is it the fact that CoLinux gets only 128MB of RAM? Or one of my settings should be fixed? Thanks
Re: [PERFORM] Visual Explain
Is it possible to download the Visual Explain only (link)? I only see that you can donwload the whole ISO (which I hardly need). On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:52:15 +0100, Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/2004 12:10 Adam Witney wrote: Will this run on other platforms? OSX maybe? It's a Java app so it runs on any any platform with a reasonably modern Java VM. -- Paul Thomas +--+-+ | Thomas Micro Systems Limited | Software Solutions for Business | | Computer Consultants | http://www.thomas-micro-systems-ltd.co.uk | +--+-+ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [PERFORM] Visual Explain
I see. Thanks :). On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:35:11 +0100, Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/2004 17:54 Vitaly Belman wrote: Is it possible to download the Visual Explain only (link)? I only see that you can donwload the whole ISO (which I hardly need). You can get it from CVS and build it yourself. -- Paul Thomas +--+-+ | Thomas Micro Systems Limited | Software Solutions for Business | | Computer Consultants | http://www.thomas-micro-systems-ltd.co.uk | +--+-+ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [PERFORM] Additional select fields in a GROUP BY
Bruno: It wasn't exactly my case but you did give me an idea by this tip, changing a perspective did quite good to the timing of this query. Tom: Hmm.. I am not sure how I can demonstrate this to you... To see the time differences you'd need the whole table.. That's quite a lot of data to be posted on a mailing list, if you wish to test it on your side, I'll dump this table partly and send them to you somehow. I do stand by what I said though, here's the real query example: Original query (execution time, 800ms): select s.series_id, avg(vote_avg), sum(vote_count) from v_bookseries s, bv_seriesgenres sg where s.series_id = sg.series_id and sg.genre_id = 1 group by s.series_id order by sum(vote_count) desc limit 10 QUERY PLAN: Limit (cost=6523.51..6523.53 rows=10 width=12) - Sort (cost=6523.51..6566.27 rows=17104 width=12) Sort Key: sum(b.vote_count) - GroupAggregate (cost=1368.54..5320.92 rows=17104 width=12) - Merge Join (cost=1368.54..4796.91 rows=58466 width=12) Merge Cond: (outer.series_id = inner.series_id) - Merge Join (cost=0.00..6676.41 rows=65902 width=16) Merge Cond: (outer.series_id = inner.series_id) - Index Scan using bv_series_pkey on bv_series s (cost=0.00..386.83 rows=17104 width=4) - Index Scan using i_books_series_id on bv_books b (cost=0.00..14148.38 rows=171918 width=12) - Sort (cost=1368.54..1406.47 rows=15173 width=4) Sort Key: sg.series_id - Index Scan using i_seriesgenres_genre_id on bv_seriesgenres sg (cost=0.00..314.83 rows=15173 width=4) Index Cond: (genre_id = 1) Query with added GROUP BY members (execution time, 1400ms): select s.series_id, s.series_name, s.series_picture, avg(vote_avg), sum(vote_count) from v_bookseries s, bv_seriesgenres sg where s.series_id = sg.series_id and sg.genre_id = 1 group by s.series_id, s.series_name, s.series_picture order by sum(vote_count) desc limit 10 QUERY PLAN: Limit (cost=12619.76..12619.79 rows=10 width=47) - Sort (cost=12619.76..12662.52 rows=17104 width=47) Sort Key: sum(b.vote_count) - GroupAggregate (cost=10454.67..11417.18 rows=17104 width=47) - Sort (cost=10454.67..10600.83 rows=58466 width=47) Sort Key: s.series_id, s.series_name, s.series_picture - Merge Join (cost=1368.54..4796.91 rows=58466 width=47) Merge Cond: (outer.series_id = inner.series_id) - Merge Join (cost=0.00..6676.41 rows=65902 width=51) Merge Cond: (outer.series_id = inner.series_id) - Index Scan using bv_series_pkey on bv_series s (cost=0.00..386.83 rows=17104 width=39) - Index Scan using i_books_series_id on bv_books b (cost=0.00..14148.38 rows=171918 width=12) - Sort (cost=1368.54..1406.47 rows=15173 width=4) Sort Key: sg.series_id - Index Scan using i_seriesgenres_genre_id on bv_seriesgenres sg (cost=0.00..314.83 rows=15173 width=4) Index Cond: (genre_id = 1) Notice that the GROUP BY items added the following to the plan: - GroupAggregate (cost=10454.67..11417.18 rows=17104 width=47) - Sort (cost=10454.67..10600.83 rows=58466 width=47) Sort Key: s.series_id, s.series_name, s.series_picture Which eventually almost doubles the execution time. On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:52:12 -0500, Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 06:21:17 +0300, Vitaly Belman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the following query: select t1field1, avg(t2fieild2) from t1, t2 where t1.field1 = t2.field2 group by t1field1 That works fine. But I'd really like to see more fields of t1 in this query, however I can't add them into the select because they're not part of the GROUP BY, thus I have to add them to there too: If t1.field1 is a candiate key for t1, then the normal thing to do is to group t2 by t2.field1 (assuming you really meant to join on t2.field1, not t2.field2) and THEN join to t1. That may even be faster than the way you are doing things now. So the query would look like: SELECT t1.field1, t1.field2, t1.field3, a.t2avg FROM t1, (SELECT field1, avg(field2) as t2avg FROM t2 GROUP BY field1) as a WHERE t1.field1 = a.field1 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[PERFORM] Additional select fields in a GROUP BY
Hello, Consider the following query: select t1field1, avg(t2fieild2) from t1, t2 where t1.field1 = t2.field2 group by t1field1 That works fine. But I'd really like to see more fields of t1 in this query, however I can't add them into the select because they're not part of the GROUP BY, thus I have to add them to there too: select t1field1, t1field2, t1field3, avg(t2fieild2) from t1, t2 where t1.field1 = t2.field2 group by t1field1, t1field2, t1field3 The problem is that addind them all to GROUP BY causes a performance loss.. The only solution I found is using a subquery like this: select * from t1, (select t1field1, avg(t2fieild2) from t1, t2 where t1.field1 = t2.field2 group by t1field1) t1inner where t1.field1 = t1inner.field1 It works just fine.. But I prefer not to use subqueries unless I am really forced to due to the design of my application. Another solution I considered is using aggreate function like that: select t1field1, max(t1field2), max(t1field3), avg(t2fieild2) from t1, t2 where t1.field1 = t2.field2 group by t1field1 Sadly, this caused the same performance... I wonder though, is it possible to make an aggregate function like first(), last() in Oracle (IIRC)? I believe that in such cases MySQL does first() by itself. Other ideas are welcome too. Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[PERFORM] PostgreSQL on VMWare vs Windows vs CoLinux
Hello pgsql-performance, I was using the native windows PostgreSQL 7.5Dev and was adviced by several people to use an emulated PostgreSQL instead, as it is just a beta. Well, I give it a whirl and tried both commercial VMWare and the freeweare open-source CoLinux, both work under Windows and both emulate Linux, that's a quick review of my experience with them, may someone in need learn from it. This might be not the best place for such a post, but since the subject was brought up here, I'll post it here as well. If someone thinks it should be posted somewhere else, let me know. Installation Configuration VMWare: On the bright side, the installation went quite smoothly, VMWare configured all the network stuff by itself and I had no trouble using the net right away. On the grim side, the installation itself took ages, compared to the plug play feel of CoLinux. Installing PostgreSQL on VMWare was quite straightforward, just as the the PostgreSQL documention goes. CoLinux: As I said, with CoLinux the installation itself goes very quickly. To get Linux running you need to download practically less than 20mb which include the distribution (Debian in my case) and the CoLinux setup. Configuring CoLinux took a bit longer than VMWare, yet, not long as I thought it would take. In fact, it can be very easy if you just follow the documention of CoLinux Wiki stuff, there are some very easy to follow tutorials there. Installing PostgreSQL on CoLinux proved a little more difficult (again, Debian), but I posted a quick tutorial that should smooth the process: http://www.colinux.org/wiki/index.php/PostgreSQL. Performance --- This was a totally subjective test (especially since one of the participants is in a beta stage), yet, that's what I tested and that's what I needed to know. To make the test as fair as possible, I did an exact dump of the same database. I ran the SQLs (around 10) in the same order on all of them and repeated the test several times. I also did an EXPLAIN on the queries to make sure all the databases work on the query the same way. It wasn't a full test though, I didn't test mass select load, nor inserts, nor work under heavy load, nor I tried different types of joins. All I did was to run some heavy (in execution time) queries. So you should take these tests just for what they are. That's what I got: The native window port performed poorly lagging 30%-50% behind the VMWare/CoLinux solutions in execution times, rather sad, but not unexpected, I guess. CoLinux and VMWare give AROUND the same results, yet CoLinux did give slightly better performance (I'd say 5%-10%) but with such slight improvement and inconsistency I wouldn't count it as much. Conclusion -- With all that said, VMWare is badly suited for running a database, while CoLinux can be run as a service (didn't try it yet though), VMWare always sits there, it is slow to go up, slow to go down and generally feels like a system hog. I'll go on with CoLinux for now and hope it will act as good as it looks. http://www.vmware.com/ http://www.colinux.org/ Thanks to Bryan and Matthew for their advices regarding the emulations. Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL caching
Hello Marty, Nick and Robert, NB Depending on what version of PG you are running, IN might take a while NB to complete. If so try an EXISTS instead RT A question and two experiments... what version of postgresql is this? I am using the newer 7.5dev native Windows port. For this reason I don't think that IN will cause any trouble (I read that this issue was resolved in 7.4). MS At any rate, a query with an IN clause should help quite a bit MS SELECT bv_books. * MS FROM bv_books MS WHERE bv_books.book_id IN ( MSSELECT book_id MSFROM bv_genres MSWHERE bv_bookgenres.genre_id = 5830 MS) MS ORDER BY vote_avg DESC LIMIT 10 OFFSET 0; It looks like it helps a bit (though you meant FROM bv_bookgenres, right?). I can't tell you how MUCH it helped though, because of two reasons: 1) As soon as I run a query, it is cached in the memory and I can't really find a good way to flush it out of there to test again except a full computer reset (shutting postmaster down doesn't help). If you have a better idea on this, do tell me =\ (Reminding again, I am on Windows). 2) I *think* I resolved this issue, at least for most of the genre_ids (didn't go through them all, but tried a few with different book count and the results looked quite good). The fault was partly mine, a few weeks ago I increase the statistics for the genre_id column a bit too much (from 10 to 70), I was unsure how exactly it works (and still am) but it helped for a few genre_ids that had a high book count, yet it also hurt the performence for the genres without as much ids. I now halved the stastics (to 58) and almost everything looks good now. Because of that I'll stop working on that query for a while (unless you have some more performance tips on the subject). Big thanks to everyone who helped.. And I might bring this issue later again, it it still will cause too much troubles. RT Try reindexing i_bookgenres_genre_id and capture the explain RT analyze for that. Is that's what you meant REINDEX INDEX i_bookgenres_genre_id? But it returns no messages what-so-ever =\. I can EXPLAIN it either. RT If it doesn't help try doing set enable_indexscan = false and RT capture the explain analyze for that. Here it is: -- QUERY PLAN Limit (cost=41099.93..41099.96 rows=10 width=76) (actual time=6734.000..6734.000 rows=10 loops=1) - Sort (cost=41099.93..41100.45 rows=208 width=76) (actual time=6734.000..6734.000 rows=10 loops=1) Sort Key: bv_books.vote_count - Merge Join (cost=40229.21..41091.92 rows=208 width=76) (actual time=6078.000..6593.000 rows=1993 loops=1) Merge Cond: (outer.book_id = inner.book_id) - Sort (cost=16817.97..16818.49 rows=208 width=4) (actual time=1062.000..1062.000 rows=1993 loops=1) Sort Key: bv_bookgenres.book_id - Seq Scan on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..16809.96 rows=208 width=4) (actual time=0.000..1047.000 rows=1993 loops=1) Filter: (genre_id = 5830) - Sort (cost=23411.24..23841.04 rows=171918 width=76) (actual time=5016.000..5189.000 rows=171801 loops=1) Sort Key: bv_books.book_id - Seq Scan on bv_books (cost=0.00..4048.18 rows=171918 width=76) (actual time=0.000..359.000 rows=171918 loops=1) Total runtime: 6734.000 ms -- Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 1:24:18 AM, you wrote: MS Vitaly, MS This looks like there might be some room for performance improvement... MS I didn't see the table structure, but I assume MS that the vote_avg and MS vote_count fields are in bv_bookgenres. I didn't understand you. vote_avg is stored in bv_books. MS Ok. That helps. The confusion (on my end) came from the SELECT clause MS of the query you provided: SELECT bv_books. * , vote_avg, vote_count MS All fields from bv_books were selected (bv_books.*) along with vote_agv MS and vote_count. My assumption was that vote_avg and vote_count were MS therefore not in bv_books. MS At any rate, a query with an IN clause should help quite a bit: MS SELECT bv_books. * MS FROM bv_books MS WHERE bv_books.book_id IN ( MSSELECT book_id MSFROM bv_genres MSWHERE bv_bookgenres.genre_id = 5830 MS) MS ORDER BY vote_avg DESC LIMIT 10 OFFSET 0; MS Give it a whirl. MS Marty MS ---(end of MS broadcast)--- MS TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? MShttp
Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL caching
Hello Jochem and Marty, I guess I should have posted the table structure before =(: Table structure + Indexes - CREATE TABLE public.bv_books ( book_id serial NOT NULL, book_title varchar(255) NOT NULL, series_id int4, series_index int2, annotation_desc_id int4, description_desc_id int4, book_picture varchar(255) NOT NULL, vote_avg float4 NOT NULL, vote_count int4 NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT bv_books_pkey PRIMARY KEY (book_id) ) WITH OIDS; CREATE INDEX i_books_vote_avg ON public.bv_books USING btree (vote_avg); CREATE INDEX i_books_vote_count ON public.bv_books USING btree (vote_count); - CREATE TABLE public.bv_bookgenres ( book_id int4 NOT NULL, genre_id int4 NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT bv_bookgenres_pkey PRIMARY KEY (book_id, genre_id), CONSTRAINT fk_bookgenres_book_id FOREIGN KEY (book_id) REFERENCES public.bv_books (book_id) ON UPDATE RESTRICT ON DELETE RESTRICT ) WITH OIDS; CREATE INDEX i_bookgenres_book_id ON public.bv_bookgenres USING btree (book_id); CREATE INDEX i_bookgenres_genre_id ON public.bv_bookgenres USING btree (genre_id); - MS I didn't see the table structure, but I assume that the vote_avg and MS vote_count fields are in bv_bookgenres. If no fields are actually MS needed from bv_bookgenres, then the query might be constructed in a way MS that only the index would be read, without loading any row data. I didn't understand you. vote_avg is stored in bv_books.. So yes, the only thing I need from bv_bookgenres is the id of the book, but I can't store this info in bv_books because there is N to N relationship between them - every book can belong to a number of genres... If that's what you meant. MS I think that you mentioned this was for a web app. Do you actually have MS a web page that displays 2000 rows of data? Well.. It is all paginated, you can access 2000 items of the data (as there are actually 2000 books in the genre) but you only see 10 items at a time.. I mean, probably no one would go over the 2000 books, but I can't just hide them =\. JvD Presuming that vote_avg is a field in the table bv_bookgenres, JvD try a composite index on genre_id and vote_avg and then see if JvD you can use the limit clause to reduce the number of loop JvD iterations from 1993 to 10. I'm afraid your idea is invalid in my case =\... Naturally I could eventually do data coupling to gain perforemnce boost if this issue will not be solved in other ways. I'll keep your idea in mind anyway, thanks. Once again thanks for you feedback. Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 6:37:44 PM, you wrote: JvD Vitaly Belman wrote: If you'll be so kind though, I'd be glad if you could spot anything to speed up in this query. Here's the query and its plan that happens without any caching: - QUERY - SELECT bv_books. * , vote_avg, vote_count FROM bv_bookgenres, bv_books WHERE bv_books.book_id = bv_bookgenres.book_id AND bv_bookgenres.genre_id = 5830 ORDER BY vote_avg DESC LIMIT 10 OFFSET 0; QUERY PLAN -- Limit (cost=2337.41..2337.43 rows=10 width=76) (actual time=7875.000..7875.000 rows=10 loops=1) - Sort (cost=2337.41..2337.94 rows=214 width=76) (actual time=7875.000..7875.000 rows=10 loops=1) Sort Key: bv_books.vote_avg - Nested Loop (cost=0.00..2329.13 rows=214 width=76) (actual time=16.000..7844.000 rows=1993 loops=1) - Index Scan using i_bookgenres_genre_id on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..1681.54 rows=214 width=4) (actual time=16.000..3585.000 rows=1993 loops=1) Index Cond: (genre_id = 5830) - Index Scan using bv_books_pkey on bv_books (cost=0.00..3.01 rows=1 width=76) (actual time=2.137..2.137 rows=1 loops=1993) Index Cond: (bv_books.book_id = quot;outerquot;.book_id) Total runtime: 7875.000 ms JvD Presuming that vote_avg is a field in the table bv_bookgenres, JvD try a composite index on genre_id and vote_avg and then see if JvD you can use the limit clause to reduce the number of loop JvD iterations from 1993 to 10. JvD CREATE INDEX test_idx ON bv_bookgenres (genre_id, vote_avg); JvD The following query tries to force that execution lan and, JvD presuming there is a foreign key relation between JvD bv_books.book_id AND bv_bookgenres.book_id, I expect it will give JvD the same results, but be carefull with NULL's: JvD SELECT bv_books. * , JvDvote_avg, JvDvote_count JvD FROM ( JvDSELECT bg.* JvDFROMbv_bookgenres bg JvDWHERE bg.genre_id = 5830 JvDORDER BY JvDbg.vote_avg DESC JvD
Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL caching
Hello Marty, MS Is that a composite index? It is a regular btree index. What is a composite index? MS Analyzing the taables may help, as the optimizer appears to MS mispredict the number of rows returned. I'll try analyzing, but I highly doubt that it would help. I analyzed once already and haven't changed the data since. MS I would be curious to see how it performs with an IN clause, MS which I would suspect would go quite a bit fasrer. Actually it reached 20s before I canceled it... Here's the explain: QUERY PLAN Limit (cost=3561.85..3561.88 rows=10 width=76) - Sort (cost=3561.85..3562.39 rows=214 width=76) Sort Key: bv_books.vote_avg - Nested Loop (cost=1760.75..3553.57 rows=214 width=76) - Index Scan using i_bookgenres_genre_id on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..1681.54 rows=214 width=0) Index Cond: (genre_id = 5830) - Materialize (cost=1760.75..1761.01 rows=26 width=76) - Nested Loop (cost=1682.07..1760.75 rows=26 width=76) - HashAggregate (cost=1682.07..1682.07 rows=26 width=4) - Index Scan using i_bookgenres_genre_id on bv_bookgenres (cost=0.00..1681.54 rows=214 width=4) Index Cond: (genre_id = 5830) - Index Scan using bv_books_pkey on bv_books (cost=0.00..3.01 rows=1 width=76) Index Cond: (bv_books.book_id = outer.book_id) Thank you for your try. Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe Friday, May 21, 2004, 11:10:56 PM, you wrote: MS Not knowing a whole lot about the internals of Pg, one thing jumped out MS at me, that each trip to get data from bv_books took 2.137 ms, which MS came to over 4.2 seconds right there. MS The problem seems to be the 1993 times that the nested loop spins, as MS almost all of the time is spent there. MS Personally, I am amazed that it takes 3.585 seconds to index scan MS i_bookgenres_genre_id. Is that a composite index? Analyzing the MS taables may help, as the optimizer appears to mispredict the number of MS rows returned. MS I would be curious to see how it performs with an IN clause, which I MS would suspect would go quite a bit fasrer. Try the following: MS SELECT bv_books. * , MS vote_avg, MS vote_count MS FROM bv_bookgenres, MS bv_books MS WHERE bv_books.book_id IN ( MSSELECT book_id MSFROM bv_genres MSWHERE bv_bookgenres.genre_id = 5830 MS) MS AND bv_bookgenres.genre_id = 5830 MS ORDER BY vote_avg DESC LIMIT 10 OFFSET 0; MS In this query, all of the book_id values are pulled at once. MS Who knows? MS If you get statisctics on this, please post. MS Marty MS ---(end of MS broadcast)--- MS TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[PERFORM] PostgreSQL caching
Hello, I have the following problem: When I run some query after I just run the Postmaster, it takse several seconds to execute (sometimes more than 10), if I rerun it again afterwards, it takes mere milliseconds. So, I guess it has to do with PostgreSQL caching.. But how exactly does it work? What does it cache? And how can I control it? I would like to load selected information in the memory before a user runs the query. Can I do it somehow? As PostgreSQL is used in my case as webserver, it isn't really helping if the user has to wait 10 seconds every time he goes to a new page (even if refreshing the page would be really quick, sine Postgre already loaded the data to memory). P.S If the query or its EXPLAIN are critical for a better understanding, let me know. Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[PERFORM] Simply join in PostrgeSQL takes too long
Hello pgsql-performance, I discussed the whole subject for some time in DevShed and didn't achieve much (as for results). I wonder if any of you guys can help out: http://forums.devshed.com/t136202/s.html Regards, Vitaly Belman ICQ: 1912453 AIM: VitalyB1984 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: VitalyBe ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly