Re: [PERFORM] Trivial function query optimized badly

2007-01-03 Thread Adam Rich

Craig,
What version of postgres are you using?  I just tested this on PG 8.1.2
and was unable to reproduce these results.  I wrote a simple function
that returns the same text passed to it, after sleeping for 1 second.
I use it in a where clause, like your example below, and regardless of
the number of rows in the table, it still takes roughly 1 second,
indicating to me the function is only called once.

Is it possible that your function really isn't immutable? Would PG 
realize this and fall back to treating it as VOLATILE ?



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Subject: [PERFORM] Trivial function query optimized badly


Well, once again I'm hosed because there's no way to tell the optimizer
the cost for a user-defined function.  I know this issue has already
been raised (by me!) several times, but I have to remind everyone about
this.  I frequently must rewrite my SQL to work around this problem.

Here is the function definition:

  CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION cansmiles(text) RETURNS text
  AS '/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libchem.so', 'cansmiles'
  LANGUAGE 'C' STRICT IMMUTABLE;

Here is the bad optimization:

db= explain analyze select version_id, 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O' from
version where version.isosmiles = cansmiles('Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O',
1);
   QUERY PLAN



 Seq Scan on version  (cost=0.00..23.41 rows=1 width=4) (actual
time=1434.281..1540.253 rows=1 loops=1)
   Filter: (isosmiles = cansmiles('Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O'::text, 1))
 Total runtime: 1540.347 ms
(3 rows)

I've had to break it up into two separate queries.  Ironically, for
large databases, Postgres does the right thing -- it computes the
function, then uses the index on the isosmiles column.  It's blazingly
fast and very satisfactory.  But for small databases, it apparently
decides to recompute the function once per row, making the query N times
slower (N = number of rows) than it should be!

In this instance, there are 1000 rows, and factor of 10^4 is a pretty
dramatic slowdown...  To make it work, I had to call the function
separately then use its result to do the select.


db= explain analyze select cansmiles('Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O', 1);
 QUERY PLAN



 Result  (cost=0.00..0.01 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=1.692..1.694
rows=1 loops=1)
 Total runtime: 1.720 ms
(2 rows)

db= explain analyze select version_id, 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O' from
version where version.isosmiles = 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O';
 QUERY PLAN


-
 Index Scan using i_version_isosmiles on version  (cost=0.00..5.80
rows=1 width=4) (actual time=0.114..0.117 rows=1 loops=1)
   Index Cond: (isosmiles = 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O'::text)
 Total runtime: 0.158 ms
(3 rows)

Craig


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Re: [PERFORM] Trivial function query optimized badly

2007-01-03 Thread Craig A. James

Adam Rich wrote:

Craig,
What version of postgres are you using?  I just tested this on PG 8.1.2
and was unable to reproduce these results.  I wrote a simple function
that returns the same text passed to it, after sleeping for 1 second.
I use it in a where clause, like your example below, and regardless of
the number of rows in the table, it still takes roughly 1 second,
indicating to me the function is only called once.


Sorry, I forgot that critical piece of info: I'm using 8.1.4.

Your results would indicate that 8.1.2 creates a different plan than 8.1.4, or 
else there's some configuration parameter that's different between your 
installation and mine that causes a radically different plan to be used.  I 
assume you vacuum/analyzed the table before you ran the query.

Is it possible that your function really isn't immutable? Would PG 
realize this and fall back to treating it as VOLATILE ?


Now that you say this, this seems more like a bug with the definition of 
IMMUTABLE.  The function should only be called once if it's given a constant 
string, right?  So the fact that Postgres called it once per row is just wrong.

Craig


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Re: [PERFORM] Trivial function query optimized badly

2007-01-03 Thread Tom Lane
Craig A. James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION cansmiles(text) RETURNS text
   AS '/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libchem.so', 'cansmiles'
   LANGUAGE 'C' STRICT IMMUTABLE;

Umm ... this is a single-argument function.

 db= explain analyze select version_id, 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O' from 
 version where version.isosmiles = cansmiles('Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O', 1);

And this query is invoking some other, two-argument function; which
apparently hasn't been marked IMMUTABLE, else it'd have been folded
to a constant.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [PERFORM] Trivial function query optimized badly

2007-01-03 Thread Craig A. James

Tom Lane wrote:

Craig A. James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION cansmiles(text) RETURNS text
  AS '/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libchem.so', 'cansmiles'
  LANGUAGE 'C' STRICT IMMUTABLE;


Umm ... this is a single-argument function.


db= explain analyze select version_id, 'Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O' from version 
where version.isosmiles = cansmiles('Brc1ccc2nc(cn2c1)C(=O)O', 1);


And this query is invoking some other, two-argument function; which
apparently hasn't been marked IMMUTABLE, else it'd have been folded
to a constant.


Good catch, mystery solved.  There are two definitions for this function, the first just a 
wrapper for the second with the latter parameter defaulting to 1.  The second 
definition was missing the IMMUTABLE keyword.

Thanks!
Craig

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