[SQL] Client Applications come with PostGreSQL V7.1

2001-05-11 Thread datactrl

Is there any Windows version of  all Client Applications come with
PostGreSQL V7.1?

Jack




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RE: [SQL] Order by email address by domain ?

2001-05-11 Thread Maxim Maletsky

here's an idea:

if you would have all emails stored in the reverse order:

moc.niamod@resu

then all you would need is simple 'ORDER BY email'.

Also, in this way, emails like [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be perfectly
ordered.

Is that a crazy thought?

If not yet then: why not to add an additional field to the table with the
reverse domain only? (after an @) ordering by it. INDEX would also be
simple.

now is crazy? Then, is there any such function in PostgreSQL? With C it
would be so easy and fast.

Cheers!
Maxim Maletsky



-Original Message-
From: Hervé Piedvache [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SQL] Order by email address by domain ?


Hi,

I just want to order by a listing of email address by domain like :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is it possible and how ?

Thanks !
-- 
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Elma Ingenierie Informatique
6, rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré
F-75008 - Paris - France 
http://www.elma.fr
Tel: +33-1-44949901
Fax: +33-1-44949902 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[SQL] Client Applications come with PostGreSQL V7.1

2001-05-11 Thread Jack

Is there any Windows version of  all Client Applications come with
PostGreSQL V7.1?

Jack




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[SQL] Re: Informix-PostgreSQL database convertion

2001-05-11 Thread Sergey E. Volkov

I think this isn't so difficult.

Use unload to ... on Informix side ( from dbaccess ) and copy ... from
... om Postgres side.

Sylte [EMAIL PROTECTED] ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
9d8r7v$1to$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9d8r7v$1to$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Howto? Are there tools or is it just a lot of hard work with a lot of PHP?
 Some examples or site-links will be appreciated :O)

 Thanks
 - Sylte





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[SQL] Newbie ex-Oracle person's question: Oracle ROWID = PSQL OID, Oracle ROWNUM = PSQL ???

2001-05-11 Thread Robert Beer

Oracle has a ROWNUM pseudo column that works like this ...
TESTselect callid, rownum from cs_calls where rownum  5;

CALLID ROWNUM
-- --
  7806  1
  7807  2
  7809  3
  6443  4

4 rows selected.

... which can be quite handy.

Is there something like this in PSQL?

By the way, having used Oracle since 1987 it's a pleasure to use PSQL.
Someone actually thinks about the implemented features.
For example, Oracle's implementation of ROWNUM gives them in the order the
rows were BEFORE the ORDER BY, which is not of much use as adding an ORDER
BY jumbles them up.  Duh!

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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[SQL] Using ORDER BY with AGGREGATE/GROUP BY in a SELECT statement

2001-05-11 Thread David D. Kilzer

NOTE: I did a moderate search through the PgSQL mail list archives, 
but couldn't find an example of a question where both ORDER BY and
aggregation were used.  In all examples it was possible to use either
one or the other with a possible subselect.  [Keep reading...I
discovered how to do this with subselects, but I'm wondering if (1) what
I'm doing with ORDER BY and aggregation will ever be allowed and (2)
whether the subselect solution is much more inefficient than being able
to order a pre-aggregate set.]

I need to query a table and return aggregated results.  The aggregation
occurs many ways (I'm joining 7 tables and returning 19 columns
currently):

  o Columns in a GROUP BY clause
  o SUM() functions
  o COUNT() functions

However, I wrote a new FUNCTION and a new AGGREGATE to return the *last*
value of a field during the aggregation process (see below).  This means
that I would like to use an ORDER BY clause with the SELECT ... GROUP BY
statement before the results are aggregated.

DROP FUNCTION lastint4 (int4, int4);
CREATE FUNCTION lastint4 (int4, int4)
RETURNS int4
 AS 'BEGIN RETURN $2; END;'
   LANGUAGE 'PLPGSQL';

DROP AGGREGATE lastitem int4;
CREATE AGGREGATE lastitem (
  SFUNC1 = lastint4,
BASETYPE = int4,
  STYPE1 = int4);

A simple (made-up) example:

  SELECT r.personid   AS personid
,SUM(r.laps)  AS laps
,COUNT(DISTINCT r.id) AS nightsraced
,lastitem(r.carid)AS carid
FROM race r
   WHERE r.personid = 14
GROUP BY r.personid
ORDER BY r.date DESC;

Does PostgreSQL (or ANSI SQL) allow this?  In the simple tests I ran, I
would get errors similar to the following:

ERROR:  Attribute r.carid must be GROUPed or used in an aggregate function

This seems a bit...obvious because r.carid is already being used in an
aggregate function.  I'm guessing that I'm running into the internals
of how PgSQL processes the query.

Hmm...well I just figured out how I could do this as a subselect, but it
seems hugely inefficient and would require PostgreSQL 7.1 or later
(ORDER BY, LIMIT used in a subselect):

  SELECT r.personid   AS personid
,SUM(r.laps)  AS laps
,COUNT(DISTINCT r.id) AS nightsraced
,(SELECT r.carid
FROM race r
   WHERE r.personid = 14 
ORDER BY r.date DESC
   LIMIT 1)   AS carid
FROM race r
   WHERE r.personid = 14
GROUP BY r.personid
ORDER BY r.date;

Is a subselect like this really that inefficient (assuming appropriate 
indexes on r.date and r.personid)?  I would think doing this during
aggregation would be much more efficient.

I'm using PostgreSQL 7.0.3 on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3
(postgresql-7.0.3-4) on a Linux 2.2.1x kernel.

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

Dave

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[SQL] Re: Informix-PostgreSQL database convertion

2001-05-11 Thread Sylte

It is convertion of the data, not the application...



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[SQL] Informix-PostgreSQL database convertion

2001-05-11 Thread Sylte

Howto? Are there tools or is it just a lot of hard work with a lot of PHP?
Some examples or site-links will be appreciated :O)

Thanks
- Sylte



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[SQL] Problem in Porting from Oracle to Postgres SQl

2001-05-11 Thread Amit


Hi!
I am facing two problems in porting from oracle to Postgres SQL.
1> There is a code in Oracle like
 Type Tstate is table of number(9)
 index by binary_integer;
.

To define a runtime table, basically it works like a array, How can
it be possible in Postgres SQL,
I have tried create temp table But it not works..
Is there any way to use arrays.

2> There is one function in Oracle Executesql '...' to
execute
 and what i got in Postgres is Execute immediate
'.'
 But it is giving error at Execute.
I will be very thankful if any one help me.
 Amit
( India )


[SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql

2001-05-11 Thread Jack

Is that possible to execute a client application from server site by
PL/Pgsql, such as pg_dump? Because my client sites are running Windows OS,
or is there any Windows version of  all Client Applications come from
PostGreSQL V7.1?

Jack



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Re: [SQL] Newbie ex-Oracle person's question: Oracle ROWID = PSQL OID, Orac le ROWNUM = PSQL ???

2001-05-11 Thread Cliff Crawford

* Robert Beer [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 Oracle has a ROWNUM pseudo column that works like this ...
 TESTselect callid, rownum from cs_calls where rownum  5;
 
 CALLID ROWNUM
 -- --
   7806  1
   7807  2
   7809  3
   6443  4
 
 4 rows selected.
 
 ... which can be quite handy.
 
 Is there something like this in PSQL?

You can use the LIMIT clause:

SELECT callid FROM cs_calls LIMIT 4;

See
http://postgresql.readysetnet.com/users-lounge/docs/7.1/postgres/sql-select.html
for more info.


 By the way, having used Oracle since 1987 it's a pleasure to use PSQL.
 Someone actually thinks about the implemented features.
 For example, Oracle's implementation of ROWNUM gives them in the order the
 rows were BEFORE the ORDER BY, which is not of much use as adding an ORDER
 BY jumbles them up.  Duh!

LIMIT in PostgreSQL applies *after* ORDER BY, so you won't have this
problem :)


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[SQL] Re: How to store gif or jpeg? Thanks!

2001-05-11 Thread Sylte

 src/interfaces/jdbc/example/ImageViewer.java

Somewhere on the internet Please be more specific



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[SQL] Re: Using ORDER BY with AGGREGATE/GROUP BY in a SELECT statement

2001-05-11 Thread David D. Kilzer

Okay, I found a workaround for PostgreSQL 7.0.3 for the specific query I
was working on below, but I'd still like to know if an ORDER BY clause
will ever be allowed with an aggregated SELECT statement, and whether it
would generally be more efficient to use an ORDER BY in the situation
described below instead of a subselect query.

Also, I realized after I sent the original message below that I could 
work around the no ORDER BY, LIMIT in subselect limitation in 
PostgreSQL 7.0.x using a subselect within a subselect, but then I'd
just be abusing the database engine, not finding a real-world 
solution.  :^)

Thanks!

Dave


On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:27:59PM -0500, David D. Kilzer wrote:

 NOTE: I did a moderate search through the PgSQL mail list archives, 
 but couldn't find an example of a question where both ORDER BY and
 aggregation were used.  In all examples it was possible to use either
 one or the other with a possible subselect.  [Keep reading...I
 discovered how to do this with subselects, but I'm wondering if (1) what
 I'm doing with ORDER BY and aggregation will ever be allowed and (2)
 whether the subselect solution is much more inefficient than being able
 to order a pre-aggregate set.]
 
 I need to query a table and return aggregated results.  The aggregation
 occurs many ways (I'm joining 7 tables and returning 19 columns
 currently):
 
   o Columns in a GROUP BY clause
   o SUM() functions
   o COUNT() functions
 
 However, I wrote a new FUNCTION and a new AGGREGATE to return the *last*
 value of a field during the aggregation process (see below).  This means
 that I would like to use an ORDER BY clause with the SELECT ... GROUP BY
 statement before the results are aggregated.
 
 DROP FUNCTION lastint4 (int4, int4);
 CREATE FUNCTION lastint4 (int4, int4)
 RETURNS int4
  AS 'BEGIN RETURN $2; END;'
LANGUAGE 'PLPGSQL';
 
 DROP AGGREGATE lastitem int4;
 CREATE AGGREGATE lastitem (
   SFUNC1 = lastint4,
 BASETYPE = int4,
   STYPE1 = int4);
 
 A simple (made-up) example:
 
   SELECT r.personid   AS personid
 ,SUM(r.laps)  AS laps
 ,COUNT(DISTINCT r.id) AS nightsraced
 ,lastitem(r.carid)AS carid
 FROM race r
WHERE r.personid = 14
 GROUP BY r.personid
 ORDER BY r.date DESC;
 
 Does PostgreSQL (or ANSI SQL) allow this?  In the simple tests I ran, I
 would get errors similar to the following:
 
 ERROR:  Attribute r.carid must be GROUPed or used in an aggregate function
 
 This seems a bit...obvious because r.carid is already being used in an
 aggregate function.  I'm guessing that I'm running into the internals
 of how PgSQL processes the query.
 
 Hmm...well I just figured out how I could do this as a subselect, but it
 seems hugely inefficient and would require PostgreSQL 7.1 or later
 (ORDER BY, LIMIT used in a subselect):
 
   SELECT r.personid   AS personid
 ,SUM(r.laps)  AS laps
 ,COUNT(DISTINCT r.id) AS nightsraced
 ,(SELECT r.carid
 FROM race r
WHERE r.personid = 14 
 ORDER BY r.date DESC
LIMIT 1)   AS carid
 FROM race r
WHERE r.personid = 14
 GROUP BY r.personid
 ORDER BY r.date;
 
 Is a subselect like this really that inefficient (assuming appropriate 
 indexes on r.date and r.personid)?  I would think doing this during
 aggregation would be much more efficient.
 
 I'm using PostgreSQL 7.0.3 on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3
 (postgresql-7.0.3-4) on a Linux 2.2.1x kernel.
 
 Thanks for any insight you can provide!
 
 Dave

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[SQL] Is this possible?

2001-05-11 Thread Wei Weng

I have a table that has a serial for primary key. Is it possible to get
the new available primary key right after I insert a row of new entry?

Thanks

Wei

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[SQL] Re: Newbie ex-Oracle person's question: Oracle ROWID = PSQL OID, Orac le ROWNUM = PSQL ???

2001-05-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)

Robert Beer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oracle has a ROWNUM pseudo column that works like this ...
 TESTselect callid, rownum from cs_calls where rownum  5;

 Is there something like this in PSQL?

SELECT callid FROM cs_calls LIMIT 4;

HTH,
Ray
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[SQL] RE: Order by email address by domain ?

2001-05-11 Thread Jeff Eckermann

???
I don't think anyone suggested adding a new builtin function.
Yes, your suggestion is good for an occasional use.
Where this kind of functionality is likely to be needed on a continuing
basis, my experience is that wrapping the code up in a custom function is
easier and cleaner than writing it out every time.  Saves a lot of typing,
not to mention the risk of typos (which could give spurious results without
being obvious about it).  Also, a function allows for indexing on that
value, which can be a great aid to performance.
I have found that sometimes it is better to just add a column or two to the
table to contain the needed key, because with large amounts of data that can
be much quicker.  Doing this too much though can lead to a cluttered
database, and a loss of clarity about just what all of those extra fields
are for...  It's a judgement call.
Just my $0.01 (That's $0.02 Australian :-))

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Bax [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:53 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Order by email address by domain ?
 
 Why is everyone else suggesting new functions?  This works (in 6.5.3):
 
ORDER BY lower(substring(email from position('@' in email)+1 )),
 lower(email)
 
 remove the lower() functions if you don't need them (I had mixed case
 addresses).
 
 I am guessing/assuming that it's cheaper to just use entire email address
 in second key rather than extract before the '@' character.
 
 Frank
 
 At 08:37 PM 5/10/01 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just want to order by a listing of email address by domain like :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Is it possible and how ?
 
 Thanks !
 -- 
 Hervé Piedvache
 
 Elma Ingenierie Informatique
 6, rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré
 F-75008 - Paris - France 
 http://www.elma.fr
 Tel: +33-1-44949901
 Fax: +33-1-44949902 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[SQL] Re: [HACKERS] Problems in porting from Oracle to Postgres

2001-05-11 Thread Roberto Mello

This is more appropriate for the pgsql-sql list, so im forwarding it
that way. The hackers list is for other purposes.

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 12:24:25PM +0530, Amit wrote:
 
 1 There is a code in Oracle like
 
   Type Tstate is table of number(9)
 index by binary_integer;
 
 To define a runtime table, basically it works like a array, How can it
 be possible in Postgres SQL,
 I have tried create temp table But it not works..
 Is there any way to use arrays.

It'd be much easier to help you if you posted the function/procedure
you're trying to port. Just one line is harder.
 
 2 There is one function in Oracle Executesql '...' to execute
 and what i got in Postgres is Execute immediate '.'
 But it is giving error at Execute.

Again, you're giving way too little detail. What error? What are you
trying? Without this, it's very hard to help.

-Roberto

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[SQL] create type and domains

2001-05-11 Thread Valerio Santinelli



I'm trying to simulate domains in PostgreSQL using 
the create type function, but I cannot find how the input and output functions 
for standard types are called. Is there anyone who can help me ?
Thanks!

--Valerio 
Santinelli


Re: [SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql

2001-05-11 Thread Jeff MacDonald

you could hack the pg_dump bit out of phpPgAdmin
i think the license permits it.

just my 2 cents.

jeff

On Wed, 9 May 2001, Jack wrote:

 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:45:46 +1000
 From: Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql
 
 Is that possible to execute a client application from server site by
 PL/Pgsql, such as pg_dump? Because my client sites are running Windows OS,
 or is there any Windows version of  all Client Applications come from
 PostGreSQL V7.1?
 
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Re: [SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql

2001-05-11 Thread clayton cottingham

Jack wrote:
 
 Is that possible to execute a client application from server site by
 PL/Pgsql, such as pg_dump? Because my client sites are running Windows OS,
 or is there any Windows version of  all Client Applications come from
 PostGreSQL V7.1?
 
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afaik 
if you have tcl/tk on windows 
should you not be able to run the pgaccess?

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Re: [SQL] Using ORDER BY with AGGREGATE/GROUP BY in a SELECT statement

2001-05-11 Thread Tom Lane

David D. Kilzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 [ wants to write an aggregate function that returns its last input ]

The SQL model of query processing has a very definite view of the stages
of processing: first group by, then aggregate, and last order by.  Tuple
ordering is irrelevant according to the basic semantics of the language.
Probably the SQL authors would have left out ORDER BY entirely if they
could have got away with it, but instead they made it a vestigial
appendage that is only allowed at the very last instant before query
outputs are forwarded to a client application.

Thus, it is very bad form to write an aggregate that depends on the
order it sees its inputs in.  This won't be changed, because it's part
of the nature of the language.

In PG 7.1 it's possible to hack around this by ordering the result of
a subselect-in-FROM:

SELECT orderedagg(ss.x) FROM (select x from tab order by y) ss;

which is a gross violation of the letter and spirit of the spec, and
should not be expected to be portable to other DBMSes; but it gets the
job done if you are intent on writing an ordering-dependent aggregate.

However, I don't see any good way to combine this with grouping, since
if you apply GROUP BY to the output of the subselect you'll lose the
ordering again.

   SELECT r.personid   AS personid
 ,SUM(r.laps)  AS laps
 ,COUNT(DISTINCT r.id) AS nightsraced
 ,(SELECT r.carid
 FROM race r
WHERE r.personid = 14 
 ORDER BY r.date DESC
LIMIT 1)   AS carid
 FROM race r
WHERE r.personid = 14
 GROUP BY r.personid
 ORDER BY r.date;

This is likely to be reasonably efficient, actually, since the subselect
will be evaluated only once per output group --- in fact, as you've
written it it'll only be evaluated once, period, since it has no
dependencies on the outer query.  More usually you'd probably do

,(SELECT r2.carid
FROM race r2
   WHERE r2.personid = r.personid
ORDER BY r2.date DESC
   LIMIT 1)   AS carid

so that the result tracks the outer query, and in this form it'd be
redone once per output row.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [SQL] Postgres function library

2001-05-11 Thread Roberto Mello

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:48:01AM +0200, Lajtos Mate wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I read the post from Josh Berkus where he (at the end of the message)
 mentions a 'function library'.
 Is that library available for any developer or it's a proprietary one?
 If it's public, can I post functions there?

It's a cookbook of functions that we are trying to gather. Each
function submitted has its own license specified by its author. Most of
them are licensed under the GPL or BSD. Many are public domain.
And yes, PLEASE post functions there. The more we have, the better. I
am going to improve the site in a few days.

http://www.brasileiro.net/postgres

-Roberto
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Re: [SQL] Is this possible?

2001-05-11 Thread Roberto Mello

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 09:16:56PM -0400, Wei Weng wrote:
 I have a table that has a serial for primary key. Is it possible to get
 the new available primary key right after I insert a row of new entry?

Yeah. Se the documentation on triggers.

-Roberto
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Re: [SQL] number of days in a month

2001-05-11 Thread Kaare Rasmussen

  does it exist a date function  to determine the number of days in a
  Select, knowing a specifique date ?

January, 2001: 

select '2001-2-1'::datetime - '2001-1-1'::datetime; 

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Re: [SQL] Re: How to store gif or jpeg? Thanks!

2001-05-11 Thread Mathijs Brands

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 03:16:53PM +0200, Sylte allegedly wrote:
  src/interfaces/jdbc/example/ImageViewer.java
 
 Somewhere on the internet Please be more specific

It's part of the PostgreSQL source. You can download the PostgreSQL
source from www.postgresql.org...

Regards,

Mathijs
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Re: [SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql

2001-05-11 Thread datactrl

Thank You Jeff,
What is phpPgAdmin and where can get it?

Jack

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From: Jeff MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [SQL] execute client application from PL/pgSql


 you could hack the pg_dump bit out of phpPgAdmin
 i think the license permits it.
 
 just my 2 cents.
 
 jeff
 
 On Wed, 9 May 2001, Jack wrote:



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