Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-03 Thread Alexander M. Pravking
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 08:20:04PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Alexander M. Pravking wrote:
> > As I see, contrib/reindexdb requires perl for commandline
> > procesing. I don't think it's a good idea, since
> > e.g. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT have no perl in standard distribution.
> > 
> > Thomas, why not to use sed?
> 
> No perl?  I am no perl guy, but I assumed everyone had that already.
> 
> I just looked at the code, and yes, it should use sed rather than perl,
> especially since it is using it just for processing command line args.
> 
> Seems it is a problem/bug for you.  Patch applied to use sed rather than
> perl.

Well, I DO use perl, so it's not a problem for me :)
But I see many people on these lists that do not.

Thanks, Bruce.

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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alexander M. Pravking wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:48:00PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Tim, I guess your problem is dead index pages that can't be reclaimed,
> > and it isn't fixed in 7.3.  Only REINDEX fixes it, and we have a
> > /contrib/reindexdb script in 7.3.
> 
> As I see, contrib/reindexdb requires perl for commandline
> procesing. I don't think it's a good idea, since
> e.g. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT have no perl in standard distribution.
> 
> Thomas, why not to use sed?

No perl?  I am no perl guy, but I assumed everyone had that already.

I just looked at the code, and yes, it should use sed rather than perl,
especially since it is using it just for processing command line args.

Seems it is a problem/bug for you.  Patch applied to use sed rather than
perl.

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Index: contrib/reindexdb/reindexdb
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql-server/contrib/reindexdb/reindexdb,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -c -c -r1.2 reindexdb
*** contrib/reindexdb/reindexdb 18 Oct 2002 18:41:20 -  1.2
--- contrib/reindexdb/reindexdb 3 Nov 2002 01:19:21 -
***
*** 111,118 
dbname="$2"
shift
;;
! -d*|--dbname=*)
!   dbname=`echo $1 | perl -pn -e 's/^--?d(bname=)?//'`
;;
  
  # Reindex specific Table.  Disables index reindexing.
--- 111,121 
dbname="$2"
shift
;;
! -d*)
!   dbname=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^-d/'`
!   ;;
! --dbname=*)
!   dbname=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^--dbname=//'`
;;
  
  # Reindex specific Table.  Disables index reindexing.
***
*** 120,127 
table="$2"
shift
;;
! -t*|--table=*)
!   table=`echo $1 | perl -pn -e 's/^--?t(able=)?//'`
;;
  
  # Reindex specific index.  Disables table reindexing.
--- 123,133 
table="$2"
shift
;;
! -t*)
!   table=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^-t//'`
!   ;;
! --table=*)
!   table=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^--table=//'`
;;
  
  # Reindex specific index.  Disables table reindexing.
***
*** 129,136 
index="$2"
shift
;;
! -i*|--index=*)
!   index=`echo $1 | perl -pn -e 's/^--?i(ndex=)?//'`
;;
  
  # Yeah, no options?  Whine, and show usage.
--- 135,145 
index="$2"
shift
;;
! -i*)
!   index=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^-i//'`
!   ;;
! --index=*)
!   index=`echo "$1" | sed 's/^--index=//'`
;;
  
  # Yeah, no options?  Whine, and show usage.


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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-02 Thread Alexander M. Pravking
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:48:00PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Tim, I guess your problem is dead index pages that can't be reclaimed,
> and it isn't fixed in 7.3.  Only REINDEX fixes it, and we have a
> /contrib/reindexdb script in 7.3.

As I see, contrib/reindexdb requires perl for commandline
procesing. I don't think it's a good idea, since
e.g. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT have no perl in standard distribution.

Thomas, why not to use sed?

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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tim Perdue wrote:
> I had this same problem with 7.1.x, even doing full vacuums on 
> SourceForge.net last year.
> 
> I assumed after a while that there was some hidden bug where file bloat 
> occurred, despite the vacuum. After 3 months or so, you'd have to 
> dump/restore the entire db and you'd be golden for a while again. After 
> the dump/restore process things seemed much snappier too, and vacuum ran 
> almost instantly.
> 
> I haven't verified if this problem still occurs in 7.2.x, using vacuum full.

Tim, I guess your problem is dead index pages that can't be reclaimed,
and it isn't fixed in 7.3.  Only REINDEX fixes it, and we have a
/contrib/reindexdb script in 7.3.

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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread Tim Perdue
Maurício Sessue Otta wrote:


Hi, in my production server a "du -hs" in the DATA directory
returns 21GB
in a newly installed server, after I restored the dumps from the
production server, the "du -hs" gives me just 8GB

why is there such a diference???

what should I do (besides buying bigger and bigger HDs) ???

[]'s Mauricio



I had this same problem with 7.1.x, even doing full vacuums on 
SourceForge.net last year.

I assumed after a while that there was some hidden bug where file bloat 
occurred, despite the vacuum. After 3 months or so, you'd have to 
dump/restore the entire db and you'd be golden for a while again. After 
the dump/restore process things seemed much snappier too, and vacuum ran 
almost instantly.

I haven't verified if this problem still occurs in 7.2.x, using vacuum full.

Tim


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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Maurício Sessue Otta wrote:

> I do daily vacuums on the production server

You haven't said what version you're running, but if you're
using 7.2 and non-FULL vacuums you also will want to make sure
that you have the free space map settings in postgresql.conf
are large enough.  Also, you may need to use reindex to lower
the space usage by indexes.


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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread Maurício Sessue Otta
I do daily vacuums on the production server


| > Hi, in my production server a "du -hs" in the DATA directory
| > returns 21GB
| > in a newly installed server, after I restored the dumps from the
| > production server, the "du -hs" gives me just 8GB
| >  
| > why is there such a diference???
| >  
| > what should I do (besides buying bigger and bigger HDs) ???
| VACUUM?
| 
| 


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Re: [SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread dima
Hi, in my production server a "du -hs" in the DATA directory
returns 21GB
in a newly installed server, after I restored the dumps from the
production server, the "du -hs" gives me just 8GB
 
why is there such a diference???
 
what should I do (besides buying bigger and bigger HDs) ???
VACUUM?



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[SQL] Different size in the DATA directory

2002-11-01 Thread Maurício Sessue Otta



Hi, in my production server a "du -hs" in the DATA 
directory
returns 21GB
in a newly installed server, after I restored the 
dumps from the 
production server, the "du -hs" gives me just 
8GB
 
why is there such a diference???
 
what should I do (besides buying bigger and bigger 
HDs) ???
 
[]'s Mauricio