Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote:
 Scott Marlowe wrote:
  Note that psql automagically right justifies numerics and dynamically
  sizes all columns so you don't have to do as much of this stuff.
  Oracle always made me feel like I was operating the machine behind the
  curtain in the Wizard of Oz, lots of handles and switches and knobs I
  had to mess with to get useful output.
 
 Yeah, I have heard that description many times in other forms.

ehh, but we provide formatting functions and you can change the output
format in psql to something more useful if you want (and there's always
COPY too).  tbh, I'm alot happier w/ psql than SQL*Plus in that regard.
People who are trying to parse psql's output directly should realize
they probably are going about it the wrong way. :)

Stephen


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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua Gooding

On 6/16/2010 1:02 AM, silly sad wrote:

On 06/16/10 02:45, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Scott Marlowe wrote:

Note that psql automagically right justifies numerics and dynamically
sizes all columns so you don't have to do as much of this stuff.
Oracle always made me feel like I was operating the machine behind the
curtain in the Wizard of Oz, lots of handles and switches and knobs I
had to mess with to get useful output.


Yeah, I have heard that description many times in other forms.


count me in :-)

i even suspect this exactly is a Secret of the oracle Power.
higher performance through lower level of control



sorry for the delay guys, and thank you for all the replies.

The problem I was having, is the data in field 'track_start' was a 
number type in oracle.  I switched it out to a real in postgres, however 
when I displayed the column (via psql) it was printing out for example 
(1.23546e12).  I know you could format the output via Sql Plus but I was 
not sure what (if anything) you could do in postgres for that.  That 
being said, I then re-modified the field type and it displays properly.  
I went from a real to a integer type and it seemed to clear up every 
issue I was having (both displaying and programatically)


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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-16 Thread Chris Browne
sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes:
 People who are trying to parse psql's output directly should realize
 they probably are going about it the wrong way. :)

There's a set of people I need to tell that to...
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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-16 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Chris Browne cbbro...@acm.org wrote:
 sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes:
 People who are trying to parse psql's output directly should realize
 they probably are going about it the wrong way. :)

 There's a set of people I need to tell that to...

If you're at least making the output something like tab,  space, pipe
delimited you can parse it.  On systems with only bash to play with,
I've done that before because it and psql were the only tools I had to
work with.  I wouldn't try to write some masterpiece artwork of code
around psql output, but for some short scripts it's usable, and way
easier than dealing with Oracle.

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[SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Joshua Gooding

Hello,

I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth 
command.  Is there an equivalent?


Thanks in advance!

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua Gooding wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth 
 command.  Is there an equivalent?

If we knew what it did, we might be able to help you.

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Joshua Gooding jgood...@ttitech.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth command.
  Is there an equivalent?

Psql uses dynamic formatting for such things.  Not sure there's really
a big need for it.  Can you give an example of what you're trying to
accomplish?  (and as Bruce mentioned, you'd get more bites if you gave
a reference like
http://www.oracle.com/technology/support/tech/sql_plus/htdocs/sub_var4.html#4_1_6
so people would know what you're asking for.)

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote:
 Joshua Gooding wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth 
  command.  Is there an equivalent?
 
 If we knew what it did, we might be able to help you.

Changes the display-width for numeric values.  SQL*Plus will then
right-justify the number based on the numwidth value.

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:
 * Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote:
 Joshua Gooding wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth
  command.  Is there an equivalent?

 If we knew what it did, we might be able to help you.

 Changes the display-width for numeric values.  SQL*Plus will then
 right-justify the number based on the numwidth value.

Note that psql automagically right justifies numerics and dynamically
sizes all columns so you don't have to do as much of this stuff.
Oracle always made me feel like I was operating the machine behind the
curtain in the Wizard of Oz, lots of handles and switches and knobs I
had to mess with to get useful output.

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 04:19:15PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
 * Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote:
  Joshua Gooding wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I'm looking for the postgres equivalent of oracles: set numwidth 
   command.  Is there an equivalent?
  
  If we knew what it did, we might be able to help you.
 
 Changes the display-width for numeric values.  SQL*Plus will then
 right-justify the number based on the numwidth value.

Are you migrating the server or the client? This sounds like a client 
issue to me..

Reinoud

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Scott Marlowe wrote:
 Note that psql automagically right justifies numerics and dynamically
 sizes all columns so you don't have to do as much of this stuff.
 Oracle always made me feel like I was operating the machine behind the
 curtain in the Wizard of Oz, lots of handles and switches and knobs I
 had to mess with to get useful output.

Yeah, I have heard that description many times in other forms.

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Re: [SQL] oracle to postgres migration question

2010-06-15 Thread silly sad

On 06/16/10 02:45, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Scott Marlowe wrote:

Note that psql automagically right justifies numerics and dynamically
sizes all columns so you don't have to do as much of this stuff.
Oracle always made me feel like I was operating the machine behind the
curtain in the Wizard of Oz, lots of handles and switches and knobs I
had to mess with to get useful output.


Yeah, I have heard that description many times in other forms.


count me in :-)

i even suspect this exactly is a Secret of the oracle Power.
higher performance through lower level of control


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