Re: [SQL] SQL problem with aggregate functions.

2002-07-22 Thread Hubert depesz Lubaczewski

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:36:17AM +0200, David BOURIAUD wrote:
> Field group | count of D | count of R | count of X.

if you want this that way, i suggest using subselects.
like:
select
distinct field_group,
(select count(*) from table t2 where t2.field_group = t1.field_group and 
t2.field='D') as count_of_d,
(select count(*) from table t2 where t2.field_group = t1.field_group and 
t2.field='R') as count_of_r,
(select count(*) from table t2 where t2.field_group = t1.field_group and 
t2.field='X') as count_of_x
from
table;

should work the way you want it.

anyway, i belive that making this:

select field_group, field, count(*) from table where field in
('D','R','X') group by field_group, field;

and then processing results in client application, should be a little
bit better/faster solution.

depesz

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Re: [SQL] [GENERAL] id and ID in CREATE TABLE

2002-07-22 Thread scott.marlowe

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > But anyway this is not so important, but why upper cases are bad ?
> 
> It's well established that all-lower-case text is more readable than
> all-upper-case ... 

Agreed.  Absolutely.  But, since the SQL standard says upper case, 
wouldn't it be useful to at least have a switch (run time, initdb time, 
or ./configure time???) called something like FOLDTOUPPER (in upper case 
of course :-)

If it's an easy win I'd be willing to do it.  I'm not the world's greatest 
C hacker, but I still remember enough of it to be competant.


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[SQL] 7.3 features and enhancements

2002-07-22 Thread mark carew

Hi All,

Can somebody direct me to a list of the above. Would be nice to know in
advance of its release.

Regards Mark



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[SQL] "no wait" in locks

2002-07-22 Thread Daniel Stüwe

Hi...

anyone knows a workaround for Oracle "no wait" Option in "SELECT ... FOR
UPDATE"? 

I wrote a programm which runs twice. Both poll the pgsql database all 5
seconds and make an "SELECT ... FOR UPDATE" for the first row found.
After some work and commit the next row is processed. The second task
waits until the first hast commited, but it should detect the lock and
continue work with next row.

How can i detect this lock? Oracle returns with "no wait" option an sql
error code.

Any hints?

best regards
Daniel Stuewe  


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Re: [SQL] [GENERAL] id and ID in CREATE TABLE

2002-07-22 Thread scott.marlowe

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> scott.marlowe wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > But anyway this is not so important, but why upper cases are bad ?
> > > 
> > > It's well established that all-lower-case text is more readable than
> > > all-upper-case ... 
> > 
> > Agreed.  Absolutely.  But, since the SQL standard says upper case, 
> > wouldn't it be useful to at least have a switch (run time, initdb time, 
> > or ./configure time???) called something like FOLDTOUPPER (in upper case 
> > of course :-)
> > 
> > If it's an easy win I'd be willing to do it.  I'm not the world's greatest 
> > C hacker, but I still remember enough of it to be competant.
> 
> Yea, I guess we could.  I think the consensus is that the uppercase
> default is so weird, we don't know anyone who would want to use it. 
> Would you?

Not if I had a choice.  But it isn't about what I want or what you want, 
it's about doing what makes postgresql the most useful for the most 
people.   I can see many situations where this would make postgresql a 
better choice than it is right now for certain projects, like:

writing an app to be as portable as possible (i.e. the reason we have 
standards...) 
-or-
migrating from some other database that follows the standard (oracle 
does I believe) and don't want to go in and re-write SQL queries from all 
the front end apps that hit the database.
-or-
making closed source database mining tools more likely to get along with 
postgresql

I can think of a lot of reasons people could desire this, even though I 
myself would prefer to NOT have upper case.

My other thought on it was whether we could make it case insensitive.  
Again, settable by some switch.  It could attribute names in mixed case, 
but all comparisons would be done in upper or lower case.  But I don't 
know how much that would cost us in processing power, especially if it had 
to fold case based on locale where we can't just use a simple bit flip to 
make everything lower or upper case when parsing it.

By the way, there have been messages about the problems with case folding 
in this mailing list for the last six months about once a month, so if 
there was a simple switch to make it behave the way people need it to 
behave instead of the way it currently behaves, answering those questions 
would be as easy as pointing to the right place in the docs.

So, I would propose a run time setting that has the four possible 
settings:

case_handling:
  fold_to_lower (default)
  fold_to_upper (i.e. SQL92/99 compatibility mode)
  case_insensitive (this one may be more work than it's worth)
  case_sensitive (i.e. unix mode)

If case insensitive were implemented it I would recommend we do in a way 
that allows the database to store the tables in mixed case as put in, but 
parse internally on lower or upper case only.

Is local an issue, or does postgresql expect you to do everything in ascii 
8 bit with no funny chars in attribute names?


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[SQL] "no wait" in locks

2002-07-22 Thread Daniel Stüwe

Hi...

anyone knows a workaround for Oracle "no wait" Option in "SELECT ... FOR
UPDATE"? 

I wrote a programm which runs twice. Both poll the pgsql database all 5
seconds and make an "SELECT ... FOR UPDATE" for the first row found.
After some work and commit the next row is processed.
The second task waits until the first hast commited, but it should
detect the lock and continue work with next row.

How can i detect this lock? Oracle returns with "no wait" option an sql
error code.

Any hints?

best regard
Daniel Stuewe  


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Re: [SQL] [GENERAL] id and ID in CREATE TABLE

2002-07-22 Thread scott.marlowe

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote:

> "scott.marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Agreed.  Absolutely.  But, since the SQL standard says upper case, 
> > wouldn't it be useful to at least have a switch (run time, initdb time, 
> > or ./configure time???) called something like FOLDTOUPPER (in upper case 
> > of course :-)
> 
> The main problem with this is what do you do with the system catalogs?
> If we start folding to upper case then existing clients will break
> unless we also rename pg_class to PG_CLASS, etc; and that will break
> them anyway if they wrote "pg_class".
> 
> I don't believe that conforming to this particular small aspect of the
> spec is worth the pain it would cause.

But it's not a small aspect if it means someone either can't use an app 
with postgresql because it was written to spec, or someone has to spend 
a bunch of time rewriting all their queries to work with postgresql.

I'm not talking about something I'd want on all my tables or all my 
databases, but there are many instances (look over this list's archive and 
you'll see them) where following spec would help migration issues.

Plus the pg_class stuff is kind of a blind ally.  If we're looking at 
foldtoupper as a setting, then we're already admitting that we're doing it 
to be interchangable with other dbmses. If that's the case, no one is 
gonna be accessing the pg_* tables, because you wouldn't do that in an app 
you're writing to be portable.  And if you're migrating to postgresql, you 
won't have anything there that would access pg_* as well.

Leave the system catalogs in lower case, and don't fold calls to anything 
that's a system catalog.  Or wrap them all to upper if the fold to upper 
is set.  I don't see this being a setting that many people would change, 
but then again, most people don't change sql_inheritance or 
transform_nulls_equals but their both there for the same reason as what 
I'm talking about.  Some other databases do things a little differently, 
and if we want to be a drop in replacement, we can either accomodate them 
or thumb our noses at them and tell them it's not our problem.

In all honesty, this change is more "right" than transform_nulls_equals 
since transform_nulls_equals makes postgresql BREAK the SQL standard, and 
this one would make it follow it.


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[SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Elielson Fontanezi

Hello Folks!


Maybe every DBA knows that there is a good shareware to editing
Oracle PL/SQL programs
named PL/SQL Developer.
I'd like to know if someone knows something near to this software
for Postgres pgSQL.

Thanks!

Elielson,


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Re: [SQL] 7.3 features and enhancements

2002-07-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 10:11:25 +1000,
  mark carew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Can somebody direct me to a list of the above. Would be nice to know in
> advance of its release.

You can read the development docs. If you follow the developers link on
any of the mirrors you can find them.

Here is a direct link to the development docs:
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/index.html

Here is a direct link to the release notes:
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/release.html

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[SQL] FATAL 1

2002-07-22 Thread Ian Cass

Couldn't find any mention of this anywhere. Anyone any idea what it means? A
db stop/start seems to have cured it.

postgres@judas:~$ psql master
psql: FATAL 1:  fixrdesc: no pg_class entry for pg_class

postgres@judas:~$ psql -V
psql (PostgreSQL) 7.2.1
contains support for: readline, history, multibyte
Portions Copyright (c) 1996-2001, PostgreSQL Global Development Group
Portions Copyright (c) 1996, Regents of the University of California
Read the file COPYRIGHT or use the command \copyright to see the
usage and distribution terms.

postgres@judas:~$ uname -a
Linux judas 2.4.18 #1 Fri May 3 11:45:59 UTC 2002 i686 unknown

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[SQL] [NOVICE] SET CONSTRAINTS question...

2002-07-22 Thread Michael Paesold

Hi,

Right after installting postgres 7.2.1 (from release source) and reading
some chapters of Bruce Momjian's great book I started to play around with a
test database. Now I have a question concerning deferred constraint
checking.
I am new to transactional SQL, so I don't really know, if this should work:

-- create query
BEGIN;

CREATE TABLE friend (
 name VARCHAR(40) PRIMARY KEY,
 country CHAR(2) NOT NULL DEFAULT 'AT'
);

CREATE SEQUENCE conn_id_seq;
CREATE TABLE conn (
 id INTEGER NOT NULL DEFAULT nextval('conn_id_seq'),
 name VARCHAR(40),
 CONSTRAINT conn_friend_fkey FOREIGN KEY(name)
   REFERENCES friend(name)
   ON UPDATE CASCADE
   ON DELETE RESTRICT
   DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE,
 CONSTRAINT conn_pkey PRIMARY KEY(id)
);
CREATE INDEX conn_name_idx ON conn (name);

INSERT INTO friend VALUES ('Michael Paesold', 'AT');
INSERT INTO conn (name) VALUES ('Michael Paesold');

COMMIT;

-- test
BEGIN;
SET CONSTRAINTS conn_friend_fkey DEFERRED;
DELETE FROM friend WHERE name='Michael Paesold';
INSERT INTO friend VALUES ('Michael Paesold', 'DE');
COMMIT;


I get an error just after the DELETE query. Perhaps I don't understand the
concept of deferred constraint checking. I know that the above query doesn't
make much sense, but I wanted to try these features.

Best Regards,
Michael Paesold



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Re: [SQL] [NOVICE] SET CONSTRAINTS question...

2002-07-22 Thread Stephan Szabo


> CREATE SEQUENCE conn_id_seq;
> CREATE TABLE conn (
>  id INTEGER NOT NULL DEFAULT nextval('conn_id_seq'),
>  name VARCHAR(40),
>  CONSTRAINT conn_friend_fkey FOREIGN KEY(name)
>REFERENCES friend(name)
>ON UPDATE CASCADE
>ON DELETE RESTRICT

I believe we interpreted restrict as being such that you
can't defer it.  No action specification for delete
probably would do what you wanted. (We may also be wrong
about restrict, but the above would be a workaround in any case)



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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Josh Berkus

Elielson,

>  Maybe every DBA knows that there is a good shareware to editing
> Oracle PL/SQL programs
> named PL/SQL Developer.
>  I'd like to know if someone knows something near to this software
> for Postgres pgSQL.

No such program, currently.

PGAccess, slated for re-release with a overhaul and new version in
September, will have somewhat enhanced Function Editing ability.
  However, nothing on the scale of PL/SQL Developer.

Me, I use Kate, an MDI text editor from the KDE crew, and CVS for
version control.   Thanks, KDE guys!But, after 3 years of Postgres,
I'm pretty fluent in PL/pgSQL.  I even double-quote without thinking
about it.

You might want to send an e-mail to ActiveState suggesting that they
could take on SQL script dialects (SQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, PL/pgSQL and
4GL) as a new ActiveState IDE.   Make sure they know you're willing to
pay for development software.

-Josh Berkus

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[SQL] Free 4GL Compiler, Informix-Postgress support

2002-07-22 Thread Ecitizen

Hi.

See Aubit-4GL a full compatible 4GL compiler which may access Informix
and Postgress Database.

See more about this at http://aubit4gl.sourceforge.net/index.html

Enjoy it and feedback please...

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[SQL] interval syntax change from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1?

2002-07-22 Thread Jinn Koriech



hi - i recently upgraded my server from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1 and now one of my
apps is no longer functioning.  this is the query:

SELECT DISTINCT rate, sum(extract(epoch from interval (end_time -
start_time)))/3600) AS duration
FROM log
WHERE invoice_state='8'
GROUP BY rate HAVING rate > 0

where 'end_time' and 'start_time' are columns in table 'log'

the reported message is:

PostgreSQL said: ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "end_time"

any help greatly appreciated.

jinn


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Re: [SQL] Float / Numeric ?

2002-07-22 Thread Jan Wieck

Rudi Starcevic wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have an ecommerce application I'm writing and I'm not sure / undecided
> on a
> particular way to store shipping rates in PostgreSQL
> 
> In this application a user may set the shipping rate per item.
> 
> So I have 3 fields - local,state and international.
> A forth field, shipping_type (varchar),  holds a value 'dollars' or
> 'percent'.
> 
> My twisted logic says a user may say this item has 10 perent shipping to
> add or 10 dollars to add.
> This means the shipping rate my be either dollars or percent and can be
> set on a per item basis.
> 
> For the 3 fields I'm not sure which is best to use - Float or Numeric ?
> 
> My application language is ColdFusion and PHP.
> 
> I'd like to ask which data type would be the better choice.
> At this stage I'm using Float to represent a value that may be either
> dollars or percent.
> 
> Perhaps this technique, using a varchar as a type of switch
> (shipping_type) , is incorrect / silly / stupid / not robust enough or
> just plain wrong.
> 
> Do you think this is OK and if so which would you use - Floast or Numeric ?
> Thanks for your time.

You can have separate fields for percent or fixed amount. With a zero
default (not NULL) the calculation is still simple enough bacause adding
zero or a multiple of it usually does not affect the result very much.

For the data type I allways advise NUMERIC for anything that deals with
money. There are legal issues with money and floating point in some
countries around the world (especially the pickier ones who love to
overengineer everything like Germany).

And make sure that the application doesn't work with floating point
either. PHP can be built with bcmath support, which does arbitrary
precision like our NUMERIC type.


Jan


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Re: [SQL] interval syntax change from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1?

2002-07-22 Thread Gaetano Mendola

From: "Jinn Koriech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi - i recently upgraded my server from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1 and now one of my
> apps is no longer functioning.  this is the query:
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT rate, sum(extract(epoch from interval (end_time -
> start_time)))/3600) AS duration
> FROM log
> WHERE invoice_state='8'
> GROUP BY rate HAVING rate > 0
> 
> where 'end_time' and 'start_time' are columns in table 'log'
> 
> the reported message is:
> 
> PostgreSQL said: ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "end_time"
> 
> any help greatly appreciated.
> 

Redo your query putting intervall beetwen " " :

SELECT DISTINCT rate, sum(extract(epoch from "interval"(end_time -
 start_time)))/3600) AS duration
 FROM log
 WHERE invoice_state='8'
 GROUP BY rate HAVING rate > 0




Ciao
Gaetano.


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[SQL] interval syntax change from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1?

2002-07-22 Thread Jinn Koriech


hi - i recently upgraded my server from 7.1.2 to 7.2.1 and now one of my
apps is no longer functioning.  this is the query:

SELECT DISTINCT rate, sum(extract(epoch from interval (end_time -
start_time)))/3600) AS duration
FROM log
WHERE invoice_state='8'
GROUP BY rate HAVING rate > 0

where 'end_time' and 'start_time' are columns in table 'log'

the reported message is:

PostgreSQL said: ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "end_time"

any help greatly appreciated.

jinn

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread James Orr

On Monday 22 July 2002 12:27 pm, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Me, I use Kate, an MDI text editor from the KDE crew, and CVS for
> version control.   Thanks, KDE guys!But, after 3 years of Postgres,
> I'm pretty fluent in PL/pgSQL.  I even double-quote without thinking
> about it.

How do you use CVS on your database?  I recently started doing this, and i'm 
wondering how other people handle it.

Basically I create a sql folder with three sub-folders tables, views and 
functions. I have a file for each table in tables, each view in views and for 
each trigger and/or function in functions.

For the actual editing? I'm a vi fan myself :).  If i'm using the graphical 
vim I can even do CVS operations with a custom menu.

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Josh Berkus


James,

> How do you use CVS on your database?  I recently started doing this, and i'm 
> wondering how other people handle it.
> 
> Basically I create a sql folder with three sub-folders tables, views and 
> functions. I have a file for each table in tables, each view in views and 
for 
> each trigger and/or function in functions.

Similar.  I bundle my development scripts into related areas with a tabledef 
and a couple of views or functions in each script, but otherwise I do the 
same as you.

As for VIM, as an ex-Win32 developer with an art degree, I never mastered the 
syntax of VI (or Emacs, for that matter).   They're certainly powerful tools, 
but I can never set aside the 2 weeks of downtime required to get up to speed 
in either text editor.

So Kate and Joe are my friends.

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Marc Spitzer

On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 04:09:21PM -0400, James Orr wrote:
> On Monday 22 July 2002 12:27 pm, Josh Berkus wrote:
> 
> > Me, I use Kate, an MDI text editor from the KDE crew, and CVS for
> > version control.   Thanks, KDE guys!But, after 3 years of Postgres,
> > I'm pretty fluent in PL/pgSQL.  I even double-quote without thinking
> > about it.
> 
> How do you use CVS on your database?  I recently started doing this, and i'm 
> wondering how other people handle it.
> 
> Basically I create a sql folder with three sub-folders tables, views
> and functions. I have a file for each table in tables, each view in
> views and for each trigger and/or function in functions.
> 
> For the actual editing? I'm a vi fan myself :).  If i'm using the graphical 
> vim I can even do CVS operations with a custom menu.
> 
> - James

James,

That sounds very ugly, I will usually have 1-4 files per db.  Either
everything goes into 1 file, drops at the front then creates.  Or
2 files, 1 for ddl( create/drop table) and another for plpgsql procedures
and triggers.  Sometimes I will split each of those into a create and drop
file.  But that is about as complex as I want it to get.  

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Roberto Mello

On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:36:54AM -0300, Elielson Fontanezi wrote:
> Hello Folks!
> 
> 
>   Maybe every DBA knows that there is a good shareware to editing
> Oracle PL/SQL programs
> named PL/SQL Developer.
>   I'd like to know if someone knows something near to this software
> for Postgres pgSQL.

Tora (tora.sf.net) has PL/SQL editing and supports PostgreSQL. Since
Pl/pgSQL is very similar to PL/SQL, you can use Tora for PL/pgSQL editing
very nicely.

Tora is an overall very nice database administration tool. I use it with
my Oracle and PostgreSQL installations all the time.

-Roberto

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Josh Berkus


Roberto,

> Tora (tora.sf.net) has PL/SQL editing and supports PostgreSQL. Since
> Pl/pgSQL is very similar to PL/SQL, you can use Tora for PL/pgSQL editing
> very nicely.
> 
> Tora is an overall very nice database administration tool. I use it with
> my Oracle and PostgreSQL installations all the time.

I tried to install Tora, but the build blew up since I don't have Oracle 
installed.  Any tips?

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Re: [SQL] Editor for pgsql

2002-07-22 Thread Roberto Mello

On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:41:39PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> 
> I tried to install Tora, but the build blew up since I don't have Oracle 
> installed.  Any tips?

I just use the Debian packages (/me hugs Debian).

AFAIK, all you have to do is compile with the appropriate flags so it
doesn't try to build Oracle support (you need a full Oracle installation),
and also MySQL support.

You also need to have the PostgreSQL loadable Qt 3 module installed before
compiling, plus Qt 3 headers and such.

You could try downloading the binary Debian packages from
packages.debian.org ("unstable" distribution) and unpacking them (Debian
packages are just "ar" packages with extra headers).

-Roberto

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