[SQL] CREATE TABLE AS and tablespaces

2006-02-24 Thread Markus Schaber
Hello,

Recently, I wanted to create a table from a complex query in a specific
tablespace, but CREATE TABLE name AS SELECT ... does not accept a
tablespace argument.

I worked around it by CREATE TABLE name AS SELECT ... LIMIT 0, then
moving the generated table to the other tablespace using ALTER TABLE,
and then using INSERT INTO ... SELECT to generate the data into the table.

But nevertheless, I'd like to ask here whether there are specific
reasons for omitting the tablespace argument from the CREATE TABLE AS
statement. If not, I'd like to request this minor feature :-)

Maybe it is even possible to further unify CREATE TABLE and CREATE TABLE AS.

Thanks,
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[SQL] "Installing" dbLink

2006-02-24 Thread Richard C
Hi     When I execute the query:      SELECT *FROM dblink('dbname=Bas','SELECT id FROM person') AS t(a int)WHERE t.a > 9000 AND T.a < 9050;     I receive the error message     ERROR:  function dblink("unknown", "unknown") does not exist     How do I install or setup the function dbLink so that I can use this feature.     Regards  Richard
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Re: [SQL] "Installing" dbLink

2006-02-24 Thread A. Kretschmer
am  24.02.2006, um 11:48:44 + mailte Richard C folgendes:
> Hi
>
>   When I execute the query: 
>
>   SELECT *
> FROM dblink('dbname=Bas','SELECT id FROM person') AS t(a int)
> WHERE t.a > 9000 AND T.a < 9050;
>
>   I receive the error message
>
>   ERROR:  function dblink("unknown", "unknown") does not exist
>
>   How do I install or setup the function dbLink so that I can use this 
> feature.

You should read the docu.

Which distribution do you have? You should install the contrib-package
and then you should run the dblink.sql.

psql your_database < dblink.sql

After this, you can use dblink.



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[SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Achilleus Mantzios

Hi,

i am currently on 7.4.12, and i what i try to do
is having an AFTER row trigger nullify one NEW column,
so as to prevent a subsequent (AFTER row) trigger from using this column's 
data.

Unfortunately this nullification (assignment) does not have 
any effect on the next AFTER trigger.

The first trigger is in pl/pgsql, and the second
is in C.

One possible use of the above (if it worked) would be the following.
Suppose the next AFTER triger is the (enhanced version of) dbmirror 
trigger which takes care of FK constraints and navigates thru the graph
in order to mirror all depenent tables' rows too.

Suppose there is no need to mirror a specific parent table.
Then in the child table i write an AFTER trigger that nullifies
this columns which is FK to the said parent table, and so prevent
the unwanted traversal from happening in the execution of the next
AFTER trigger (dbmirror).

I'd like to ask, if it is considered the right behaviour
and if there is a plan in changing it.

Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
row triggers?

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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Achilleus Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
> row triggers?

By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was stored.
Use a BEFORE trigger.

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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote:
> Achilleus Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
> > row triggers?
> 
> By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was stored.
> Use a BEFORE trigger.

But a BEFORE trigger would alter the stored tuple, which is not what
Achilleus wants AFAIU.

I think the desired effect can be had by having DBMirror check the
source relation of the inserted tuple (There is a hidden attributa
called tableoid IIRC that can be used for that, I think).

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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Achilleus Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
>>> row triggers?
>> 
>> By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was stored.
>> Use a BEFORE trigger.

> But a BEFORE trigger would alter the stored tuple, which is not what
> Achilleus wants AFAIU.

Oh, I misunderstood what he wanted ... and now that I do understand,
I think it's a really terrible idea :-(.  A large part of the point
of using an AFTER trigger is to be certain you know exactly what got
stored.  (BEFORE triggers can never know this with certainty because
there might be another BEFORE trigger that runs after them and edits the
tuple some more.)  If one AFTER trigger could falsify the data seen by
the next, then that guarantee crumbles.  For instance, a minor
programming error in a user-written trigger could break foreign-key
checking.  No thanks.

> I think the desired effect can be had by having DBMirror check the
> source relation of the inserted tuple (There is a hidden attributa
> called tableoid IIRC that can be used for that, I think).

I agree --- the correct solution is to change the DBMirror triggers to
incorporate the desired filtering logic.

regards, tom lane

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[SQL] Missing fields on Query result.

2006-02-24 Thread Daniel Hernandez
 
Hi Guys,   I have another question, but in this time is regarding to a query that supose to return son char fields, but they don't show up, I'm using ODBC Driver 7.03.02.00 with Delphi 6.Thanks in advanced, and regards,Daniel Hernández.Tijuana, BC, México."More you learn, more you earn".Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web!


Re: [SQL] Missing fields on Query result.

2006-02-24 Thread Daniel Hernandez
 
Never Mind, it's solved now,Thanx any way, regards,Daniel Hernández.Tijuana, BC, México."More you learn, more you earn". --- On Fri 02/24, Daniel Hernandez < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: Daniel Hernandez [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: pgsql-sql@postgresql.orgDate: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:08:51 -0500 (EST)Subject: [SQL] Missing fields on Query result. Hi Guys,   I have another question, but in this time is regarding to a query that supose to return son char fields, but they don't show up, I'm using ODBC Driver 7.03.02.00 with Delphi 6.Thanks in advanced, and regards,Daniel Hernández.Tijuana, BC, México."More you learn, more you earn".Join 
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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Achilleus Mantzios
O Tom Lane έγραψε στις Feb 24, 2006 :

> Achilleus Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
> > row triggers?
> 
> By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was stored.
> Use a BEFORE trigger.

Too late if someone wants to store it.
I wanna store the intented original values, thats why i use AFTER trigger.
But i would like to alter what a final AFTER trigger would see.

I'll elabarote a little.

An update happens.
The row is stored.
An after trigger is fired that alters some NEW columns
(nullifies them), aiming for a subsequent trigger
to see the altered results .

It should be something like a pointer to a HeapTuple, (right?),
so that would be feasible i suppose.

I would not even make a post if it was something that trivial.

I hope you get my point.

> 
>   regards, tom lane
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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Achilleus Mantzios
O Tom Lane έγραψε στις Feb 24, 2006 :

> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Achilleus Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> Is there a reason that the NEW values should remain unchanged in AFTER 
> >>> row triggers?
> >> 
> >> By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was stored.
> >> Use a BEFORE trigger.
> 
> > But a BEFORE trigger would alter the stored tuple, which is not what
> > Achilleus wants AFAIU.
> 
> Oh, I misunderstood what he wanted ... and now that I do understand,
> I think it's a really terrible idea :-(.  A large part of the point
> of using an AFTER trigger is to be certain you know exactly what got
> stored.  (BEFORE triggers can never know this with certainty because
> there might be another BEFORE trigger that runs after them and edits the
> tuple some more.)  If one AFTER trigger could falsify the data seen by
> the next, then that guarantee crumbles.  For instance, a minor
> programming error in a user-written trigger could break foreign-key
> checking.  No thanks.

Alvaro, Tom,
thanx a lot,
i'll have to incorporate that into dbmirror.


> 
> > I think the desired effect can be had by having DBMirror check the
> > source relation of the inserted tuple (There is a hidden attributa
> > called tableoid IIRC that can be used for that, I think).
> 
> I agree --- the correct solution is to change the DBMirror triggers to
> incorporate the desired filtering logic.
> 
>   regards, tom lane
> 

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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
Achilleus Mantzios wrote:

> O Tom Lane έγραψε στις Feb 24, 2006 :
> 
> > By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was
> > stored. Use a BEFORE trigger.
> 
> Too late if someone wants to store it.
> I wanna store the intented original values, thats why i use 
> AFTER trigger.
> But i would like to alter what a final AFTER trigger would see.
> 
> I'll elabarote a little.
> 
> An update happens.
> The row is stored.
> An after trigger is fired that alters some NEW columns
> (nullifies them), aiming for a subsequent trigger
> to see the altered results .
> 
> It should be something like a pointer to a HeapTuple, (right?),
> so that would be feasible i suppose.
> 
> I would not even make a post if it was something that trivial.
> 
> I hope you get my point.

Your real problem is that the "subsequent" trigger has behaviour you don't 
like.  That's what you should be fixing.  If dbmirror has no way to exclude 
specific tables from mirroring, take it up with them as a feature request, or 
patch dbmirror to work how you want it to.

AFTER triggers *must* receive the row that was actually 
inserted/updated/deleted.  If they could receive a "modified" row that didn't 
reflect what was actually in the database, all sorts of useful trigger-based 
logging and replication patterns wouldn't work, and there's really no other way 
to implement them.  See also Tom Lane's other message for further implications 
of being able to modify the rows seen by AFTER triggers.

I'd also be hesitant to write triggers that have to execute in a specific order.

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[SQL] Can't connect to the db

2006-02-24 Thread Judith
Hello every one I was using my db with an application in perl, but 
something occurs with the application and the pc got frozen  and I had 
to restart my PC, when it boot again I coudn't restart the psql service 
when I do the psql mydb it shows me the next error, the error is in 
spanish but it says something like:


   psql: can't connect to the server: there is no file or directory

   is the server running local and accepting conecctions in the Unix 
domain socket «/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432»


do I have to reinstall again the postgres or can I do something else?


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Re: [SQL] Can't connect to the db

2006-02-24 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Looks like your database didn't start up.  You should look at your
server logs to see why.

A

On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:17:14PM -0600, Judith wrote:
> Hello every one I was using my db with an application in perl, but 
> something occurs with the application and the pc got frozen  and I had 
> to restart my PC, when it boot again I coudn't restart the psql service 
> when I do the psql mydb it shows me the next error, the error is in 
> spanish but it says something like:
> 
>psql: can't connect to the server: there is no file or directory
> 
>is the server running local and accepting conecctions in the Unix 
> domain socket «/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432»
> 
> do I have to reinstall again the postgres or can I do something else?
> 
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[SQL] Obtaining client IP address

2006-02-24 Thread Alexis Paul Bertolini

Hi,

I need to have a db table containing all connected clients (of a 
distributed application) and among other info, their IP.


If both the client and the server are on the same LAN, no problem, the 
client can supply it's own info. But if they are connected via some sort 
of bridge/router/NAT? For instance, a client on a LAN connects to a 
server over the Internet?


The client has no idea what public IP it has. The server ought to 
know... however I haven't found how I could get this info into my query.


What I need is some sort of procedure whereby the client enrolls onto 
the system and supplies the info...


I hope I made my self clear. If not I can try and be more specific!

Alex.

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Re: [SQL] Obtaining client IP address

2006-02-24 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:16:31AM +0100, Alexis Paul Bertolini wrote:
> The client has no idea what public IP it has. The server ought to 
> know... however I haven't found how I could get this info into my query.

What version of PostgreSQL are you running?  In 8.0 and later you
can use inet_client_addr().

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/functions-info.html

I forget if earlier versions have a way to get the client's IP
address without resorting to hacks (e.g., writing a function in a
privileged language like plperlu and calling netstat or lsof).

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Re: [SQL] CREATE TABLE AS and tablespaces

2006-02-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Markus Schaber wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Recently, I wanted to create a table from a complex query in a specific
> tablespace, but CREATE TABLE name AS SELECT ... does not accept a
> tablespace argument.
> 
> I worked around it by CREATE TABLE name AS SELECT ... LIMIT 0, then
> moving the generated table to the other tablespace using ALTER TABLE,
> and then using INSERT INTO ... SELECT to generate the data into the table.
> 
> But nevertheless, I'd like to ask here whether there are specific
> reasons for omitting the tablespace argument from the CREATE TABLE AS
> statement. If not, I'd like to request this minor feature :-)
> 
> Maybe it is even possible to further unify CREATE TABLE and CREATE TABLE AS.

This feature will be in 8.2:

revision 2.530
date: 2006/02/19 00:04:27;  author: neilc;  state: Exp;  lines: +16 -20
Add TABLESPACE and ON COMMIT clauses to CREATE TABLE AS. ON COMMIT is
required by the SQL standard, and TABLESPACE is useful functionality.
Patch from Kris Jurka, minor editorialization by Neil Conway.


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Re: [SQL] After Trigger assignment to NEW

2006-02-24 Thread Achilleus Mantzios
O Owen Jacobson έγραψε στις Feb 24, 2006 :

> Achilleus Mantzios wrote:
> 
> > O Tom Lane έγραψε στις Feb 24, 2006 :
> > 
> > > By definition, an AFTER trigger is too late to change what was
> > > stored. Use a BEFORE trigger.
> > 
> > Too late if someone wants to store it.
> > I wanna store the intented original values, thats why i use 
> > AFTER trigger.
> > But i would like to alter what a final AFTER trigger would see.
> > 
> > I'll elabarote a little.
> > 
> > An update happens.
> > The row is stored.
> > An after trigger is fired that alters some NEW columns
> > (nullifies them), aiming for a subsequent trigger
> > to see the altered results .
> > 
> > It should be something like a pointer to a HeapTuple, (right?),
> > so that would be feasible i suppose.
> > 
> > I would not even make a post if it was something that trivial.
> > 
> > I hope you get my point.
> 
> Your real problem is that the "subsequent" trigger has behaviour you don't 
> like.  That's what you should be fixing.  If dbmirror has no way to exclude 
> specific tables from mirroring, take it up with them as a feature request, or 
> patch dbmirror to work how you want it to.
> 
> AFTER triggers *must* receive the row that was actually 
> inserted/updated/deleted.  If they could receive a "modified" row that didn't 
> reflect what was actually in the database, all sorts of useful trigger-based 
> logging and replication patterns wouldn't work, and there's really no other 
> way to implement them.  See also Tom Lane's other message for further 
> implications of being able to modify the rows seen by AFTER triggers.
> 

As i have explained my dbmirror is FK null values gnostic(=aware) already 
as we speak.
It normaly mirrors father rows according to certain criteria.
(And the fathers of them and so on).
Replication is done over UUCP over 5$/min satelite 
connections, so replicating just the right data for a slave
is critically important.

So nullifying a value just before the dbmirror trigger would do exactly
the right thing (for me)

Now implementing the "nullification on demand" feature in 
dbmirror means more work when i migrate to 8.x,
i have severly modified dbmirror to do many things,
and i thought it was time to stop!

> I'd also be hesitant to write triggers that have to execute in a specific 
> order.

Meaning that would hurt portability?
Most people need features rathen than the relief to know they can migrate 
to another database (which they probably never will)
>

Back to AFTER trigger changing values issue, 
i think things are not so dramatic if
FK triggers could just be fired first.

Anyway i'll modify dbmirror again.

Oh BTW, 
There is a patch for DBMirror.pl (which steven hasnt yet fully reviewed)
that solves the previous performance problems.
 
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[SQL] Relation 0 does not exist

2006-02-24 Thread Yasuhiro Furuse
Hi.

When I run SQL command, I've got the error messe 'Relation 0 doesn't exist'
and following log messages were generated.
After this error happens, I can not access database at all.

Could you kindly advise why this kind of error happens?

Regards,
y.furuse


---
[Version]
PosrgreSQL7.2.4

[SQL command]
INSERT INTO SDBA2 SELECT * FROM VHIST2 ;

[TABLE Layout]
CREATE TABLE SDBA2(
Client  TEXT,   
RESVNO  TEXT,
DEPTTEXT,   
CUSTID  TEXT,   
DT  DATE,   
TM  INT,
DTM TEXT,   
RESVTM  TIMESTAMP,  
CPLTTM  TIMESTAMP,  
WTM INTERVAL,
STM INTERVAL,
OBJ TEXT,   
METHOD  TEXT,   
COMTM   TEXT,   
DIAGTEXT,   
TREAT   TEXT,   
NEXTTEXT,   
AG  TEXT,   
AGDAYS  INT,
AGDTDATE,
FU  TEXT,   
FUDAYS  INT,
FUDTDATE,
PS  TEXT,   
PSDAYS  INT,
PSDTDATE,
STS TEXT,   
COMMNT  TEXT,   
AGE INT,
SEX TEXT,   
OCCUP   TEXT,   
ITYPTEXT,
ATT1TEXT,   
PRIMARY KEY(CLIENT,RESVNO)
);


[LOG message]
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[736]: [1] DEBUG:  server process (pid 32278) was
terminated by signal 11
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[736]: [2] DEBUG:  terminating any other active
server processes
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[736]: [3] DEBUG:  all server processes terminated;
reinitializing shared memory and semaphores
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [4] DEBUG:  database system was
interrupted at 2006-02-25 01:52:52 JST
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [5] DEBUG:  checkpoint record is at
1/1DE7CE8C
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [6] DEBUG:  redo record is at 1/1DE7CE8C;
undo record is at 0/0; shutdown FALSE
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [7] DEBUG:  next transaction id: 6670787;
next oid: 117726
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [8] DEBUG:  database system was not
properly shut down; automatic recovery in progress
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [9] DEBUG:  ReadRecord: record with zero
length at 1/1DE7CECC
Feb 25 02:30:01  postgres[32289]: [10] DEBUG:  redo is not required
Feb 25 02:30:11  postgres[32289]: [11] DEBUG:  database system is ready
Feb 25 03:00:00  postgres[1006]: [4] ERROR:  cannot open segment 1 of
relation pg_statistic_relid_att_index (target block 858666545): No such file
or directory
Feb 25 03:30:00  postgres[2452]: [4] ERROR:  cannot open segment 1 of
relation pg_statistic_relid_att_index (target block 858666545): No such file
or directory
Feb 25 04:00:00  postgres[3896]: [4] ERROR:  cannot open segment 1 of
relation pg_statistic_relid_att_index (target block 858666545): No such file
or directory



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