Re: [Pharo-dev] Call of projects of open-dev lectures

[Nicolas Passerini]

What do you think about Iceberg?

2017-01-04 15:48 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse :

> Hi
>
> We are organising a lecture where students should
> - learn pharo
> - learn how to communicate with open source community
> - learn how to reverse engineer, fix bugs
> They should work by 3/4.
>
> We are looking for projects that would like to accept
> - propose some bugs to be fixed
> - to communicate with newbies and from time to time
>
> I was thinking about
> - MDL
> - Roassal
> - Moose ?
> - Pillar ? but nobody beside me and I do not have the time
> - DRGeoII
> - Telescope
> - Artefact
> - Scale
> - Ecstatic
>
> So if you have a project and you want to participate.
> We would like to have
> - web page?
> - mailing-list
> - bug trackers/todo?
>
> Stef
>

[Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Stephane Ducasse]

Hi pharoers

I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the
University here on Linux.
I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that they
cannot install Pharo :(
Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(

So we will probably use windows.
Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
based on snapcraft.io.

Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we can
get
a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?

Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[Esteban Lorenzano]

I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?

Esteban

> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess  wrote:
> 
> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com  are gone - 
> again.
> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess 
> )

Re: [Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Ben Coman]

Looks like interesting tech.  I can't help for now since I'm out of
town tomorrow on two week family vacation.
(but TGF for smartphone gmail)

cheers -ben

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Stephane Ducasse
 wrote:
> Hi pharoers
>
> I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the
> University here on Linux.
> I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that they
> cannot install Pharo :(
> Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(
>
> So we will probably use windows.
> Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
> based on snapcraft.io.
>
> Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we can
> get
> a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?
>
> Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Guillermo Polito]

I have some time, I'll check it out this afternoon

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

> Looks like interesting tech.  I can't help for now since I'm out of
> town tomorrow on two week family vacation.
> (but TGF for smartphone gmail)
>
> cheers -ben
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Stephane Ducasse
>  wrote:
> > Hi pharoers
> >
> > I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the
> > University here on Linux.
> > I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that they
> > cannot install Pharo :(
> > Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(
> >
> > So we will probably use windows.
> > Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
> > based on snapcraft.io.
> >
> > Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we can
> > get
> > a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?
> >
> > Stef
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[Nicolai Hess]

2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

> I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?
>

YES

Thanks.



>
> Esteban
>
> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess  wrote:
>
> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com are gone - again.
> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess)
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Esteban Lorenzano]

looks same idea of http://openbuildservice.org , 
I hope this is easier (I never understood how to make OBS work for us… never 
had the time either :( )

Esteban

> On 6 Jan 2017, at 15:04, Guillermo Polito  wrote:
> 
> I have some time, I'll check it out this afternoon
> 
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ben Coman  > wrote:
> Looks like interesting tech.  I can't help for now since I'm out of
> town tomorrow on two week family vacation.
> (but TGF for smartphone gmail)
> 
> cheers -ben
> 
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Stephane Ducasse
> mailto:stepharo.s...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi pharoers
> >
> > I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the
> > University here on Linux.
> > I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that they
> > cannot install Pharo :(
> > Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(
> >
> > So we will probably use windows.
> > Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
> > based on snapcraft.io .
> >
> > Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we can
> > get
> > a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?
> >
> > Stef
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[Nicolai Hess]

No wait, now the list of teams is empty ? I am not in any team anymore ?
But I can see my name in the list of members of project Pharo

2017-01-06 15:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess :

>
>
> 2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>
>> I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?
>>
>
> YES
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess  wrote:
>>
>> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com are gone - again.
>> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess)
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[Esteban Lorenzano]

crap… I will need to check a bit more.

Esteban

ps: (maybe a good moment to start testing iceberg and moving projects to git 
support?) If you execute this: 

Metacello new
baseline: 'Iceberg';
repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg:multi-remotes';
load.
IceRepository defaultBackendType: #IceLibgitLocalRepository.

in one of the VMs here: https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/ 
 (the 32bits versions)
latest version should work. 

*except* in macOS where you need to modify 

LGitLibrary>>macModuleName

to answer 'libgit2.dylib'


> On 6 Jan 2017, at 15:14, Nicolai Hess  wrote:
> 
> No wait, now the list of teams is empty ? I am not in any team anymore ? 
> But I can see my name in the list of members of project Pharo
> 
> 2017-01-06 15:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess  >:
> 
> 
> 2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?
> 
> YES 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess > > wrote:
>> 
>> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com  are gone - 
>> again.
>> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess 
>> )
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[p...@highoctane.be]

I went to a project I knew and there the list was populated.

On home screen it was blank.

Phil

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Nicolai Hess  wrote:

> No wait, now the list of teams is empty ? I am not in any team anymore ?
> But I can see my name in the list of members of project Pharo
>
> 2017-01-06 15:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess :
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>>
>>> I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?
>>>
>>
>> YES
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Esteban
>>>
>>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess  wrote:
>>>
>>> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com are gone - again.
>>> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 6 Jan 2017, at 16:38, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> 
> I went to a project I knew and there the list was populated.
> 
> On home screen it was blank.

Sorry Phil, this feedback is a bit cryptic. No idea what are you saying :)

Esteban

> 
> Phil
> 
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Nicolai Hess  > wrote:
> No wait, now the list of teams is empty ? I am not in any team anymore ? 
> But I can see my name in the list of members of project Pharo
> 
> 2017-01-06 15:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess  >:
> 
> 
> 2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?
> 
> YES 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess > > wrote:
>> 
>> All my projects at smalltalkhub.com  are gone - 
>> again.
>> (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess 
>> )
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Projects at smalltalkhub

[philippe.b...@highoctane.be]

Upon login I saw none of my projects.
The I put a direct Url to one of them.
And there were my projects on the side.

Phil

Le 6 janv. 2017 16:58, "Esteban Lorenzano"  a écrit :

>
> On 6 Jan 2017, at 16:38, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
>
> I went to a project I knew and there the list was populated.
>
> On home screen it was blank.
>
>
> Sorry Phil, this feedback is a bit cryptic. No idea what are you saying :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> Phil
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Nicolai Hess 
> wrote:
>
>> No wait, now the list of teams is empty ? I am not in any team anymore ?
>> But I can see my name in the list of members of project Pharo
>>
>> 2017-01-06 15:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-01-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>>>
 I restarted it and now I see 3 projects… is that correct?

>>>
>>> YES
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>

 Esteban

 On 5 Jan 2017, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess  wrote:

 All my projects at smalltalkhub.com are gone - again.
 (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~NicolaiHess)



>>>
>>
>
>

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Re: [Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Dale Henrichs]

Stef,

RE: why they "cannot install Pharo" --- I'd guess it is because Pharo 
requires 32 bit libraries and those are not available in the current 
Linux releases by default ... to install the 32 bit libraries requires 
sudo privileges and students aren't going to be able to do it themselves 
and the sysadmins aren't going to want to have to add 32 bit libraries 
to a bunch of linux machines just for pharo ... just a guess .


Dale


On 01/06/2017 05:38 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote:

Hi pharoers

I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the 
University here on Linux.
I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that 
they cannot install Pharo :(

Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(

So we will probably use windows.
Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
based on snapcraft.io .

Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we 
can get

a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?

Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call of projects of open-dev lectures

[Alexandre Bergel]

Hi Stef,

Here is the Roassal part:

Webpages: 
http://agilevisualization.com
http://moosetechnology.org

Mailing-list: 
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

Bug tracker:
https://github.com/moosetechnology/Moose/issues

Cheers,
Alexandre


> On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Stephane Ducasse  wrote:
> 
> Hi
>  
> We are organising a lecture where students should
>   - learn pharo
>   - learn how to communicate with open source community
>   - learn how to reverse engineer, fix bugs
> They should work by 3/4.
>  
> We are looking for projects that would like to accept
>   - propose some bugs to be fixed
>   - to communicate with newbies and from time to time 
>  
> I was thinking about
>   - MDL
>   - Roassal
>   - Moose ?
>   - Pillar ? but nobody beside me and I do not have the time
>   - DRGeoII
>   - Telescope
>   - Artefact
>   - Scale
>   - Ecstatic
>  
> So if you have a project and you want to participate.
> We would like to have
>   - web page?
>   - mailing-list
>   - bug trackers/todo?
>  
> Stef

-- 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] ***Important*** Snapcraft pharo package for Pharo 50

[Damien Pollet]

Docker seems pretty nice as well, with the added bonus that it can be
hosted on Mac and Windows, and is probably a bit lighter since containers
are not full-system.

About installing Pharo, I'd guess that the adhoc install procedure is a
problem. Whatever the dependencies, it's easier for admins to install stuff
if it's just another package that fits with the rest of their distribution.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call of projects of open-dev lectures

[Hilaire]

Le 05/01/2017 à 18:26, stepharong a écrit :
>> How many hours are they supposed to dedicate to the project?
> 
> 12 * 4 hours.

How should I understand 12 * 4 hours?
12 hours by student in a team of four?

If it is so, it is not that much as I guess again students are new to
both Pharo (you did not elaborate on their background regarding Pharo)
and even newer to the application to collaborate with.

With that perspective, if my guesses are right, I did a selection of Dr.
Geo bugs for the students to work on. I also rate the bug difficulties
in a scale of 1 to 3. Some are really easy to fix, at least for me as I
have the background knowledge, but the student will have to spend time
to understand the source code, moreover some bug once fixed need to be
documented in the user guides. All in all I selected 14 issues I think
the students can reasonably work on.

Web page: http://drgeo.eu
Forum: http://forum.drgeo.eu
Bugs tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/drgeo/+bugs?field.tag=student

-- 
Dr. Geo
http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Call of projects of open-dev lectures

[Damien Pollet]

On 6 January 2017 at 21:04, Hilaire  wrote:

> How should I understand 12 * 4 hours?
> 12 hours by student in a team of four?
>

Ten weeks with 4 dedicated hours every friday afternoon, in groups of 3 to 5


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Damien Pollet
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