[Pharo-dev] Problem with FileSystem in WIndows

[Casimiro de Almeida Barreto]

Good night all.



I´ve had trouble in windows concerning FileSystem.



((FileSystem disk root) / ‘C:\temp\e8720bb4-b90a-0d00-9b1f-008709e5552b.txt’) 
delete



Fails as if the file didn´t exist. Message:



FileDoesNotExist: Path / ‘C:\temp\e8720bb4-b90a-0d00-9b1f-008709e5552b.txt’



And I wonder what´s wrong. Because it works in linux and MacOS.



Trasncript show: ((FileSYstem disk root) / 
‘C:\temp\e8720bb4-b90a-0d00-9b1f-008709e5552b.txt’)



Returns:



File @ C:\temp\e8720bb4-b90a-0d00-9b1f-008709e5552b.txt\



And I wonder where the last \ came from and if is it that is messing all and 
how to fix things.



Best regards,



Casimiro Barreto



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[nacho]

Did you tried Amber?
Is Smalltalk on the browser.
I believe that what you mean is embedding the V8 engine into Pharo. But
man, thats a huge work. Really...
my 2c.


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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 7:53 PM, askoh [via Smalltalk] <
ml+s1294792n4944919...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:

> We means all communities of Smalltalk environments. Pharo is of course the
> biggest, hence my post here first. I am verifying the soundness of the idea
> of SIB and then do a student project on it. I am from the VisualWork
> community. I look forward to porting freeCAD: 3D CAD with Motion Simulation
> to Pharo when it has 64bit version on Windows.
>
> Aik-Siong Koh
>
> Denis Kudriashov wrote
> 2017-04-29 19:00 GMT+02:00 askoh <[hidden email]
> >:
>
> > We start out by embedding Chrome inside the IDE. Make them communicate
> > well.
> > We then port bit by bit to Smalltalk based on needs and priorities.
> >
>
> I am wondering, when you said "we" what you mean? Did you found team to
> work on such project?
>
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[askoh]

We means all communities of Smalltalk environments. Pharo is of course the
biggest, hence my post here first. I am verifying the soundness of the idea
of SIB and then do a student project on it. I am from the VisualWork
community. I look forward to porting freeCAD: 3D CAD with Motion Simulation
to Pharo when it has 64bit version on Windows.

Aik-Siong Koh


Denis Kudriashov wrote
> 2017-04-29 19:00 GMT+02:00 askoh 

> askoh@

> :
> 
>> We start out by embedding Chrome inside the IDE. Make them communicate
>> well.
>> We then port bit by bit to Smalltalk based on needs and priorities.
>>
> 
> I am wondering, when you said "we" what you mean? Did you found team to
> work on such project?





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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-04-29 19:00 GMT+02:00 askoh :

> We start out by embedding Chrome inside the IDE. Make them communicate
> well.
> We then port bit by bit to Smalltalk based on needs and priorities.
>

I am wondering, when you said "we" what you mean? Did you found team to
work on such project?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[Stephane Ducasse]

What you can try is to resurrect the old web browser plugin.
Now if you want to help why don;t you join the community and help?

Stef

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 7:00 PM, askoh  wrote:

> Let me clarify that this browser is to enhance software development and not
> for mainstream use - at least not yet.
>
> Imagine have the full power of Smalltalk IDE while browsing the internet. I
> click on a photo and run image processing on it to see if it is natural or
> artificial, recognize objects or people, etc. I can have my own algorithm
> to
> suppress ads or popups. I can invent and test security models. I can
> download and upload from within the environment. I can search the
> environment and web at the same time.
>
> Indeed, Smalltalk lacks many technologies. But internet technologies are so
> so important we must have them ASAP. Having a GOAL to create a Smalltalk
> native Internet Browser (SIB) inside the environment will ensure we are not
> left behind. The synergy (IDE+SIB) will bring software development to the
> next level. Again it's something Smalltalk can pioneer. Every Smalltalk
> application will be web enabled automatically.
>
> Javascript is popular because it is embedded into all internet browsers.
> Google intentionally embed Dart into Chrome. We can have Smalltalk in SIB.
> SIB will improve Smalltalk programming productivity.
>
> We start out by embedding Chrome inside the IDE. Make them communicate
> well.
> We then port bit by bit to Smalltalk based on needs and priorities.
>
> All the best,
> Aik-Siong Koh
>
>
>
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[Pharo-dev] GarageGlorp

[Stephane Ducasse]

Hi

for a tutorial I wanted to load Glorp in Pharo 60 as described in the
Glorp doc.

Metacello new
smalltalkhubUser: 'DBXTalk' project: 'Garage';
configuration: 'GarageGlorp';
version: #stable;
load.

I get an error stating that
The symbolic version stable is not defined in the configuration for the ...
for the platform.

I changed the loading instruction to

Metacello new
smalltalkhubUser: 'DBXTalk' project: 'Garage';
configuration: 'GarageGlorp';
version: '0.2';
load.

And it seems to work. May be we should publish a symbolic version for pharo
60.
I do not think that I have commit right.

Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[askoh]

Let me clarify that this browser is to enhance software development and not
for mainstream use - at least not yet.

Imagine have the full power of Smalltalk IDE while browsing the internet. I
click on a photo and run image processing on it to see if it is natural or
artificial, recognize objects or people, etc. I can have my own algorithm to
suppress ads or popups. I can invent and test security models. I can
download and upload from within the environment. I can search the
environment and web at the same time.

Indeed, Smalltalk lacks many technologies. But internet technologies are so
so important we must have them ASAP. Having a GOAL to create a Smalltalk
native Internet Browser (SIB) inside the environment will ensure we are not
left behind. The synergy (IDE+SIB) will bring software development to the
next level. Again it's something Smalltalk can pioneer. Every Smalltalk
application will be web enabled automatically.

Javascript is popular because it is embedded into all internet browsers.
Google intentionally embed Dart into Chrome. We can have Smalltalk in SIB.
SIB will improve Smalltalk programming productivity.

We start out by embedding Chrome inside the IDE. Make them communicate well.
We then port bit by bit to Smalltalk based on needs and priorities.

All the best,
Aik-Siong Koh



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[H. Hirzel]

And for simple HTML pages this might be interesting

https://github.com/HPI-SWA-Teaching/Scamper  (8 contributors, 380 commits)

On 4/29/17, Denis Kudriashov  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I remember Esteban integrated Chrome into Pharo. Would be interesting to
> know details.
>
> 2017-04-29 8:58 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Cellier <
> nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-29 4:11 GMT+02:00 askoh :
>>
>>> Being connected to the internet is going to be a necessity for any piece
>>> of
>>> software in the immediate future. So every Smalltalk development
>>> environment
>>> or application should have that capability as default. To push that
>>> envelop,
>>> every image should have a Smalltalk native Internet Browser. By
>>> developing
>>> that Internet Browser, we are demonstrating the power of Smalltalk.
>>> There
>>> is
>>> no reason why Smalltalk cannot be as intimate to the World Wide Web as
>>> Javascript. We can have the IDE in Smalltalk, Internet Browser in
>>> Smalltalk
>>> and a WWW language in Smalltalk. As is uniquely Smalltalk, every bit of
>>> code
>>> is visible, modifiable and debuggable. This supped up environment will
>>> grow
>>> and grow to be a full OS.
>>>
>>> How can we gather the relevant Smalltalk code and necessary plugins to
>>> make
>>> an Internet Browser? I remember Croquet had internet browser and video
>>> player. What is missing?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Aik-Siong Koh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> html5, javascript, etc... Good luck!
>> What is the size of teams for building Firefox, Safari or Edge?
>> Just browse https://github.com/mozilla for curiosity
>> For example, just the core: https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev
>> Not sure that the million $ that Tim is asking regularly would bring us
>> any close to those references.
>> You'll have to implement a bunch of technologies... At least, the good
>> point is that it would make sure that we have a truly open smalltalk ;)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: iceberg home changed

[Damien Pollet]

the reason that SBA exists is to get ISBN numbers for the books. It's an
adhoc editor like Apress or O'Reilly, if you will. And it was created at
the time of Squeak by Example, so probably a bit before Pharo.

On 29 April 2017 at 03:04, Ben Coman  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Dimitris Chloupis  > wrote:
>
>> Why not make a Pharo team , we already have one for the books which also
>> has a weird name "square bracker associates" ,
>>
>
> I don't think its weird.  Square brackets "[ ]" to delineate blocks of
> code is one thing that distinguishes Smalltalk from those weird cult of
> curly brace "{ }" !!
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
>> we should make a pharo team and put all the repos there so people can
>> find them in one place
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:31 AM Esteban Lorenzano 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> not really, but we want to promote pharo related stuff with the pharo
>>> prefix on the organisations (and those who in someway will fall under our
>>> umbrella)..
>>>
>>> pharo-project -> core pharo
>>> pharo-vcs -> iceberg, libgit2 bindings, in the future: an iceberg page,
>>> maybe other backends.
>>> pharo-graphics -> block/brick and upcoming graphical cool stuff
>>> pharo-gtools -> gtools + glamour, etc.
>>> pharo-nosql -> voyage family
>>> pharo-? -> I don’t know, whatever
>>>
>>> in the future, with the upcoming versions of iceberg + bootstrap,
>>> projects like iceberg, gtools, etc. will be “subtrees” of pharo-core so is
>>> good to have them well organised.
>>>
>>> of course people are free to name their projects/organisation as they
>>> want, but I was trying to figure out a way for *us* :)
>>> (and since is very easy to change, we could just reorganise everything
>>> under pharo-project if we decide to put everything in just one repository).
>>>
>>> Esteban
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Apr 2017, at 10:11, Stephane Ducasse 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> esteban do we have a naming convention on github?
>>> pharo-xxx?
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As part of our work for release, I changed the home of Iceberg into his
 own place:  https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg

 So, now to install you will need:

 Metacello new
   baseline: 'Iceberg';
   repository: 'github://pharo-vcs/iceberg:dev-0.4';
   load.

 I also uploaded a Configuration to the *catalog>http://catalog.pharo.
 org*, so you can load while
 doing the transition.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

[Denis Kudriashov]

Hi.

I remember Esteban integrated Chrome into Pharo. Would be interesting to
know details.

2017-04-29 8:58 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> 2017-04-29 4:11 GMT+02:00 askoh :
>
>> Being connected to the internet is going to be a necessity for any piece
>> of
>> software in the immediate future. So every Smalltalk development
>> environment
>> or application should have that capability as default. To push that
>> envelop,
>> every image should have a Smalltalk native Internet Browser. By developing
>> that Internet Browser, we are demonstrating the power of Smalltalk. There
>> is
>> no reason why Smalltalk cannot be as intimate to the World Wide Web as
>> Javascript. We can have the IDE in Smalltalk, Internet Browser in
>> Smalltalk
>> and a WWW language in Smalltalk. As is uniquely Smalltalk, every bit of
>> code
>> is visible, modifiable and debuggable. This supped up environment will
>> grow
>> and grow to be a full OS.
>>
>> How can we gather the relevant Smalltalk code and necessary plugins to
>> make
>> an Internet Browser? I remember Croquet had internet browser and video
>> player. What is missing?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Aik-Siong Koh
>>
>>
>>
> html5, javascript, etc... Good luck!
> What is the size of teams for building Firefox, Safari or Edge?
> Just browse https://github.com/mozilla for curiosity
> For example, just the core: https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev
> Not sure that the million $ that Tim is asking regularly would bring us
> any close to those references.
> You'll have to implement a bunch of technologies... At least, the good
> point is that it would make sure that we have a truly open smalltalk ;)
>
>
>
>>
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>> k-Internet-Browser-tp4944879.html
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>>
>>
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