[Pharo-dev] CFP - IWST 2017 - International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies - deadline extension

2017-06-12 Thread Anne Etien
Dear Smalltakers,

Deadline of IWST has been postponed to June 21th AoE. 
However, we ask you to submit at least an abstract for June 16th. Only papers 
submitted before this date could be modified until June 21th.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers,

Jannik and Anne

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> CFP - IWST 2017 - International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies
>  
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> CALL FOR PAPERS
>  
> IWST 2017 — International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies
> http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2017/International-Workshop-IWST_17 
> 
>  
> Maribor, Slovenia; Between September 4th to 8th, 2017
> 
>  
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> Goals and scopes
> ---
> The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience 
> in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. The topics of 
> your paper can be on all aspect of Smalltalk, theoretical as well as 
> practical. Participants are invited to submit research articles or industrial 
> papers. This year we want to open two different tracks: one research track 
> and one industrial track with less scientific constraints.
>  
> We expect papers of three kinds:
>  
> Short position papers describing emerging ideas
> Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research 
> results.
> Industrial papers with presentation of real and innovative Smalltalk 
> applications; this kind of paper should enlighten why Smalltalk is really 
> appropriate for your application.
> We will not enforce any length restriction.
>  
> 
> Important Dates
> 
> Submission deadline: June 16th, 2017
> Notification deadline: July 21th, 2017
> Workshop : between September 4th and 8th, 2017
> All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL (To be confirmed)
>  
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> Topics
> ---
> We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of 
> Smalltalk related topics such as:
>  
> -Aspect-oriented programming,
> -Design patterns,
> -Experience reports,
> -Frameworks,
> -Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk,
> -Interaction with other languages,
> -Meta-programming and Meta-modeling,
> -Tools
>  
> ---
> Best Paper Award
> ---
> To encourage the submission of high-quality papers, the IWST organizing 
> committee is very proud to announce a Best Paper Award for this edition of 
> IWST.
>  
> We thank the Lam Research Corporation for its financial contribution which 
> makes it possible for prizes for the three best papers: 1000 USD for first 
> place, 600 USD for second place and 400 USD for third place.
>  
> The ranking will be decided by the program committee during the review 
> process. The awards will be given during the ESUG conference social event.
>  
> The Best Paper Award will take place only with a minimum of six submissions. 
> Notice also that to be illegible, a paper must be presented at the workshop 
> by one of the author and that the presenting author must be registered at the 
> ESUG conference.
>  
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> Publication
> ---
> Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 
> point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at 
> http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm 
> . This site also 
> contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions.
>  
> ---
> Submission
> ---
> All submissions must be sent via easychair: 
> https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=iwst2017 
> 
>  
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> Program chairs
> ---
> Anne Etien (Université de Lille 1, France)
> Jannik Laval (Université Lyon 2 Lumière, France)
>  
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> 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] CPU and RAM usage of Pharo3 vs. Pharo6

2017-06-12 Thread Marcus Denker

> On 9 Jun 2017, at 13:06, Holger Freyther  wrote:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> my current major deployment is still with Pharo3 and due some bigger changes 
> I start to migrate to Pharo6 and today I finally managed to update the test 
> deployment (and be happy with it). The test is not scientific but maybe an 
> early indicator that there is something to look at?
> 
> The image is idle and not handling any application payload so it might be a 
> fair comparison because of that.
> 
> RSS + ~16 MiB RAM (~53 Mib vs. ~69 Mib)

I think this is just size of image increase (e.g. new tools, tutorials, 
demos...). We need to clean the image in Pharo7… e.g. remove
all the old versions of things that we have now a new version of. 

For Pharo 6: you can unload some things (e.g. Help packages, maybe tests) to 
shrink (see ImageCleaner).
For Pharo7 with the bootstrap we are already better: Image size is 30MB instead 
of 36, and I think people will use
the bootstrap to build images specialised much more (e.g without UI, but remote 
tools).

> CPU + ~0.005s per real second passed (think of Amazon AWS why that could 
> matter)
> (In ~1400s wall clock  57.8s vs. 50.86s cpu time was used)
> 

That is not good… I think there where some changes regarding the main rendering 
loop. It might
be interesting to track them down (since Phaor3 that is a lot of potential 
changes, though). 

Or better, think about a better headless way of running servers (no UI, use 
Remote tools instead).


Marcus




[Pharo-dev] Why don't the Zero Conf examples show how to launch Pharo?

2017-06-12 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - I was wondering why the command line section on the 
http://pharo.org/web/download  page, doesn’t 
show you how to then launch the app you have just downloaded?

I’m not sure if there is a way to do it all on one line (I tried && ./pharo-ui 
Pharo.image  - but this doesn’t work).  However I think the website example 
should at least have:

# then run it
./pharo-ui Pharo.image 


Otherwise we make it harder for people to figure out what to do with the 
program we’ve pointed them to?

Tim

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why don't the Zero Conf examples show how to launch Pharo?

2017-06-12 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Actually - I think its as simple as just adding

&& ./pharo-ui Pharo.image

To the shown command?

(Although maybe showing it as 2 steps makes it clearer that you don’t need to 
download each time)

Tim

> On 12 Jun 2017, at 19:48, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> 
> Hi - I was wondering why the command line section on the 
> http://pharo.org/web/download  page, doesn’t 
> show you how to then launch the app you have just downloaded?
> 
> I’m not sure if there is a way to do it all on one line (I tried && 
> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image  - but this doesn’t work).  However I think the 
> website example should at least have:
> 
> # then run it
> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image 
> 
> 
> Otherwise we make it harder for people to figure out what to do with the 
> program we’ve pointed them to?
> 
> Tim



Re: [Pharo-dev] Why don't the Zero Conf examples show how to launch Pharo?

2017-06-12 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Tim,

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 08:02:23PM +0100, Tim Mackinnon wrote:
> Actually - I think its as simple as just adding
> 
> && ./pharo-ui Pharo.image
> 
> To the shown command?
> 
> (Although maybe showing it as 2 steps makes it clearer that you don?t need to
> download each time)
> 
> Tim

I'm currently putting together suggested text for the GNU/Linux download 
page.  In addition to showing how to launch Pharo, I'm also suggesting:

- Putting 32 bit first (it's currently safer for a newcomer)
- Moving new platforms to the top and older platforms lower in order
- Removing reference to Ubuntu 12.04 since it is no longer supported.

If you've got any other suggestions, please let me know and I'll be
happy to incorporate them.

Cheers,
Alistair



> On 12 Jun 2017, at 19:48, Tim Mackinnon  wrote:
> 
> Hi - I was wondering why the command line section on the http://pharo.org/
> web/download page, doesn?t show you how to then launch the app you have
> just downloaded?
> 
> I?m not sure if there is a way to do it all on one line (I tried && ./
> pharo-ui Pharo.image  - but this doesn?t work).  However I think the
> website example should at least have:
> 
> # then run it
> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image 
> 
> 
> Otherwise we make it harder for people to figure out what to do with the
> program we?ve pointed them to?
> 
> Tim
> 
>