Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[stepharo]

Hi alex

First we are discussing with inria to see if one of their engineer can 
work a month to check what jb did.

Because JB was revisiting the VM from scratch but he did not finish.
It will be on the roadmap for the new engineer the consortium will hire.

Second you can find information about the way Jannik deployed Phratch on 
Android

http://www.phratch.com/archives/408

Stef


Hi

Any news on Pharo VM for android? ;)

Cheers,
Alex

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM, stepharo > wrote:


This is really excellent!
Keep pushing this.
I'm eager to play with a raspberry.
We should continue to revisit the UI elements to consume less in
any case.
Because I'm convinced that we are doing too many things at the
wrong place.

Stef

Le 22/4/15 21:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :

Hi All,

thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we
now have a functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator. We're
still probably some weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM;
issues like instruction cache flushing on real hardware can be
tricky to solve.  But we're at least ready to start trying to
compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see that I added a build
directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur. Hopefully a
fast VM for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.
-- 
best,

Eliot

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 06 Oct 2015, at 23:04, Eliot Miranda  wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> have you tried building a Cog VM from the Cog svn sources?  I expect, 
> provided you hack around the NativeBoost uses, that the VM will work.

Android needs also some java crap in the middle (along with an “idle vm”) to 
work… just ARM support is not enough. 
But there was CogDroid some time ago, kind of hacky but worked and there is JB 
work who I hope is taken and finished eventually/soon. 

btw… my idea is to take JB's approach to “idle vm” and (once finished) 
translate it to regular VM… consuming a constant of 5% cpu is not good at all :(

Esteban

> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Aliaksei Syrel  > wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Any news on Pharo VM for android? ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM, stepharo  > wrote:
> This is really excellent!
> Keep pushing this.
> I'm eager to play with a raspberry.
> We should continue to revisit the UI elements to consume less in any case.
> Because I'm convinced that we are doing too many things at the wrong place.
> 
> Stef
> 
> Le 22/4/15 21:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have a 
> functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator. We're still probably some weeks 
> away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction cache flushing on 
> real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at least ready to start 
> trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see that I added a build 
> directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur. Hopefully a fast VM for 
> Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.
> -- 
> best,
> Eliot
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[Aliaksei Syrel]

Hi

Any news on Pharo VM for android? ;)

Cheers,
Alex

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM, stepharo  wrote:

> This is really excellent!
> Keep pushing this.
> I'm eager to play with a raspberry.
> We should continue to revisit the UI elements to consume less in any case.
> Because I'm convinced that we are doing too many things at the wrong place.
>
> Stef
>
> Le 22/4/15 21:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :
>
> Hi All,
>>
>> thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have a
>> functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator. We're still probably some
>> weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction cache
>> flushing on real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at least ready
>> to start trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see that I added a
>> build directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur. Hopefully a fast VM
>> for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.
>> --
>> best,
>> Eliot
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[Eliot Miranda]

Alex,

have you tried building a Cog VM from the Cog svn sources?  I expect,
provided you hack around the NativeBoost uses, that the VM will work.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Aliaksei Syrel 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Any news on Pharo VM for android? ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM, stepharo  wrote:
>
>> This is really excellent!
>> Keep pushing this.
>> I'm eager to play with a raspberry.
>> We should continue to revisit the UI elements to consume less in any case.
>> Because I'm convinced that we are doing too many things at the wrong
>> place.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> Le 22/4/15 21:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :
>>
>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have a
>>> functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator. We're still probably some
>>> weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction cache
>>> flushing on real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at least ready
>>> to start trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see that I added a
>>> build directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur. Hopefully a fast VM
>>> for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.
>>> --
>>> best,
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[Thierry Goubier]

Yes!

Thanks to all for that effort.

Thierry

Le 22/04/2015 20:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :

Hi All,

 thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have
a functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator.  We're still probably
some weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction
cache flushing on real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at
least ready to start trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see
that I added a build directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur.
Hopefully a fast VM for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.
--
best,
Eliot

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[kilon alios]

Yes , yes , yes , would love to have Pharo available on Android and use
it on my smartphone on a daily basis , thank you very much guys.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:42 PM Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi All,

 thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have a
 functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator.  We're still probably some
 weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction cache
 flushing on real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at least ready
 to start trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see that I added a
 build directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur.  Hopefully a fast VM
 for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.

 --
 best,
 Eliot

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

[stepharo]

This is really excellent!
Keep pushing this.
I'm eager to play with a raspberry.
We should continue to revisit the UI elements to consume less in any case.
Because I'm convinced that we are doing too many things at the wrong place.

Stef

Le 22/4/15 21:42, Eliot Miranda a écrit :

Hi All,

thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now have 
a functional JIT for the ARM in the simulator. We're still probably 
some weeks away from a functional ARM JIT VM; issues like instruction 
cache flushing on real hardware can be tricky to solve.  But we're at 
least ready to start trying to compile the JIT VM for ARM.  Doug, see 
that I added a build directory for build.linux32ARM/squeak.cog.spur. 
Hopefully a fast VM for Raspberry Pi and Android is only a few weeks away.

--
best,
Eliot