Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Thomas Heniart
Great news!

2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr:

 Hello everyone,

 We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5
 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is.

 It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you
 want to try it, just type :

 RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. BIConfigurableFormatter
 formatAsYouReadPolicy: true

 Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you
 experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you
 I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.

 Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you
 read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.

 Franck





Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Marcus Denker
Nice!

After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not with 
“format as your read”) and
than a little while later remove the old one.

Marcus

 
 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr 
 mailto:franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr:
 Hello everyone,
 
 We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 
 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. 
 
 It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you 
 want to try it, just type :
 
 RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. 
 BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true
 
 Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you 
 experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I 
 am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.
 
 Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read 
 in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.
 
 Franck
 
 
 



Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi,

please let me explicit know in such cases when the package structure of the
image is changed (some package is added/deleted/removed). I need to update
system configurations and/or minimal image generation.

Cheers,
-- Pavel

2015-07-22 11:10 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:

 Nice!

 After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not
 with “format as your read”) and
 than a little while later remove the old one.

 Marcus


 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr:

 Hello everyone,

 We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo
 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is.

 It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If
 you want to try it, just type :

 RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. 
 BIConfigurableFormatter
 formatAsYouReadPolicy: true

 Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you
 experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you
 I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.

 Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you
 read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.

 Franck







Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Norbert Hartl

 Am 22.07.2015 um 11:10 schrieb Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
 
 Nice!
 
 After people have the chance to test it, we should enable it. (but not with 
 “format as your read”) and
 than a little while later remove the old one.
 
+1

Norbert

   Marcus
 
 
 2015-07-22 10:44 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr 
 mailto:franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr:
 Hello everyone,
 
 We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 
 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. 
 
 It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you 
 want to try it, just type :
 
 RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. 
 BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true
 
 Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you 
 experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I 
 am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.
 
 Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read 
 in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.
 
 Franck
 
 
 
 



Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Franck Warlouzet
franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5
 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is.

 It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you
 want to try it, just type :

 RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter.
 BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true

Perhaps we should have a Preferences category Technology previews.
Then when I get time later to try things it will be easier to find
than searching for half-remembered stuff on the mail archives.
cheers -ben



Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Peter Uhnák

 stranglers


stragglers *facepalm*

(but slow feedback strangles development :p)


Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Franck Warlouzet
No I did not. I do not know if it is really useful, we have our methods to see 
the effect of the formatter. 
Maybe it can be good to have a preview of the different settings with a link in 
the formatter options but in this case I have to review it because it is pretty 
ugly and not really user friendly.

Franck

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:49:13 +0200
From: steph...@free.fr
To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink


  

  
  
Franck excellent news.

Did you pubish your tools to test it somewhere?



The good part is also that the code formatter is optional.



Stef



Le 22/7/15 10:44, Franck Warlouzet a
  écrit :


Hello everyone,

  

  We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest
  Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was
  not well now is. 

  

  It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks
  first. If you want to try it, just type :

  

  RBProgramNode
formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. BIConfigurableFormatter
formatAsYouReadPolicy: true

  

  Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if
  you experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them
  but with you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an
  exhaustive way.

  

  Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format
  as you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.

  

  Franck

  

[Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Franck Warlouzet
Hello everyone,

We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest Pharo 5 
image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not well now is. 

It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If you want 
to try it, just type :

RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. 
BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true

Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you 
experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with you I am 
sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.

Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as you read in 
Nautilus or just automatically format your code.

Franck

 
  

Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread Peter Uhnák

 Perhaps we should have a Preferences category Technology previews.
 Then when I get time later to try things it will be easier to find
 than searching for half-remembered stuff on the mail archives.
 cheers -ben


This seems like a good idea... but often by the time I finally get around
to look at it such things they are merged and used by default. People that
are interested will look at it early and late stranglers may not be as
valuable.

Maybe something more in-your-face would work better... such as on first
Pharo image opening there would be small notification in a corner saying...
We've added a new cool formatter... try it now? and on click it would
enable it/open settings. If you ignore it it will disappear in couple of
seconds...
This could be however annoying if you are actually not interested, because
every time you download a fresh image it would bug you just like the Pharo
4.0 welcome message that I have to close every time...

Peter


Re: [Pharo-dev] New pretty printer Blue Ink

2015-07-22 Thread stepharo

Franck excellent news.
Did you pubish your tools to test it somewhere?

The good part is also that the code formatter is optional.

Stef

Le 22/7/15 10:44, Franck Warlouzet a écrit :

Hello everyone,

We just integrated Blue Ink, the new pretty printer, in the latest 
Pharo 5 image ! Basically what was working still is and what was not 
well now is.


It is not yet enabled by default, we will wait for feedbacks first. If 
you want to try it, just type :


RBProgramNode formatterClass: BIConfigurableFormatter. 
BIConfigurableFormatter formatAsYouReadPolicy: true


Feel free to contact me via the mailing list or personnal mail if you 
experience a strange behavior. I tried to improve all of them but with 
you I am sure all the cases will be treated in an exhaustive way.


Thanks for testing it, I hope it will convince you to use format as 
you read in Nautilus or just automatically format your code.


Franck