Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Unable to read Utf8 ?

2016-01-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano

> On 17 Jan 2016, at 13:43, Thierry Goubier  wrote:
> 
> Le 17/01/2016 13:22, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
>> this is working in latest VM build.
>> 
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17389/
>> 
>> so.. you can go back to use it :)
> 
> Thanks!

thanks to Eliot :)

> 
> Thierry
> 




Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Unable to read Utf8 ?

2016-01-17 Thread Thierry Goubier

Le 17/01/2016 13:22, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :

this is working in latest VM build.

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17389/

so.. you can go back to use it :)


Thanks!

Thierry



Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Unable to read Utf8 ?

2016-01-16 Thread Esteban Lorenzano

> On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:59, Thierry Goubier  wrote:
> 
> Le 16/01/2016 11:39, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
>> 
>>> On 16 Jan 2016, at 10:45, Eliot Miranda 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Thierry,
>>> 
>>> up until a few hours ago the latest VM sources were indeed broken
>>> by work I was doing on 64 bits.  My sources are AFAIA now correct
>>> and I suppose you're waiting on Esteban doing a merge.  But I'm
>>> responding since there seems to be a process error here.
>> 
>> is still broken :)
>> 
>>> 
>>> I need the freedom to break the VM, otherwise I can only extend it
>>> with difficulty.  This assumes that there are currently servers
>>> that build and test the VM, and implies that we maintain the notion
>>> of the most recent good VM that has passed all the tests, and that
>>> this is the "latest" VM everyone is using.
>>> 
>>> If there isn't this distinction then every time I extend the VM and
>>> make inevitable mistakes I affect users.  That's clearly not
>>> sensible.
>> 
>> yes of course, what we have is two versions of the VM:
>> 
>> - “latest" build is a build with latest sources… this might be
>> broken. People willing to help us find bugs should use this. -
>> “stable” build is the VM after it passed all tests… and that’s what
>> people willing some stability should use :)
>> 
>> what actually is happening now is that there is a lot of people
>> helping in the migration of spur (something I thank, a lot) and then
>> they use latest vm version… who is usually very stable (but not
>> always, as is the case).
> 
> I think the issue was that the latest vm has been very stable and that it 
> suddenly broke was a bit unexpected. At the same time, in the pre-spur days, 
> the stable was a very old build.

yes, true.
Now latest spur stable is from 14/01 so… :P

Esteban

> 
> Thierry
> 
>> cheers, Esteban
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>>> 
 On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Thierry Goubier
  wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the
 latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data.
 
 I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to
 the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in
 the latest vm.
 
 Thierry



Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Unable to read Utf8 ?

2016-01-16 Thread Thierry Goubier

Le 16/01/2016 11:39, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :



On 16 Jan 2016, at 10:45, Eliot Miranda 
wrote:


Hi Thierry,

up until a few hours ago the latest VM sources were indeed broken
by work I was doing on 64 bits.  My sources are AFAIA now correct
and I suppose you're waiting on Esteban doing a merge.  But I'm
responding since there seems to be a process error here.


is still broken :)



I need the freedom to break the VM, otherwise I can only extend it
with difficulty.  This assumes that there are currently servers
that build and test the VM, and implies that we maintain the notion
of the most recent good VM that has passed all the tests, and that
this is the "latest" VM everyone is using.

If there isn't this distinction then every time I extend the VM and
make inevitable mistakes I affect users.  That's clearly not
sensible.


yes of course, what we have is two versions of the VM:

- “latest" build is a build with latest sources… this might be
broken. People willing to help us find bugs should use this. -
“stable” build is the VM after it passed all tests… and that’s what
people willing some stability should use :)

what actually is happening now is that there is a lot of people
helping in the migration of spur (something I thank, a lot) and then
they use latest vm version… who is usually very stable (but not
always, as is the case).


I think the issue was that the latest vm has been very stable and that 
it suddenly broke was a bit unexpected. At the same time, in the 
pre-spur days, the stable was a very old build.


Thierry


cheers, Esteban




_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)


On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Thierry Goubier
 wrote:

Hi Guys,

has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the
latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data.

I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to
the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in
the latest vm.

Thierry