[Pharo-project] Markup Builder in Smalltalk Alpha 2.0

2010-07-18 Thread Sudhakar Krishnamachari
Usable first alpha version with refactoring fixes to make it a cleaner base.

http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/markupbuilder-alpha-2-0/

http://squeaksource.com/PharoGoodies/MarkupBuilder-Skrish.alpha.2.0.mcz

HtmlBuilderTableWidget is fairly fleshed out as an example of component that
is flexible and extensible with a plugin system

Working on Forms to make it like RAILS..

Integrated MarkupBuilder with Seaside examples in Tests..
* Read through MarkupBuilder-Tests for all reqd examples

* Launch Seaside and register all the subclasses of HtmlBuilderComponent
(class>>initialize) to see the examples live on browser with code and source
from http://localhost:8080/seaside

Comments are hugely welcome to make it more useable/ core for as many as can
use it.. and reach the release 1.0 sooner.
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[Pharo-project] [Survey] Assess the cycles in your software

2010-07-18 Thread Laval Jannik
Hi Pharoers, and Smalltalkers in general,

Have you seen waited to assess the cycles in your software? Now you can :)

We request some of you to perform an experiment using DSM to see your software 
package structure and to fix cycles between packages. Our tool shows 
dependencies between packages and highlight some bad dependencies generating 
structure cycles. It also helps to understand dependencies. 

Your goal is to fill a survey using our tool. 
I prepared a mini-tutorial about DSM and eDSM. It can help you to understand 
the visualization tool.

To ease the use of our tool, I loaded it in a PharoCore1.2. And there are two 
archives available: 
- the first contains an image with our tool with a model of Pharo loaded in it, 
so you can play with our tool on pharo itself. It can be downloaded here: 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithPharo.zip. Pay attention, the image is 
slow.
- the second contains the same thing without the model of Pharo. Here, you have 
to load your code, then populate a moose model and use the tool. It can be 
downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithoutPharo.zip
The two archives contain the tutorial and the survey. If you are a pharo 
integrator, we suggest you to take the one with Pharo model loaded, else the 
other.

To use our tool, load your tool in Pharo. Then do "MoosePanel open", and import 
your software in Moose by "import from Smalltalk image". When it is imported, 
select your project in the list on the left of MoosePanel, and select "all 
model packages" on the list on center.

Then, you have two choices: 
- you can scan all your project: right click on "all model packages" and do DSM.
- or select "all model packages" then select some packages in the next list and 
right click, do DSM.

After that, you can perform the survey (with reading of the tutorial). We need 
your answers for the end of August. So, you have two months to do it.

If you have any question, just let me know.

Best regards,
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Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
Also the new/broken behavior of the Monticello Browser that screws up
the ancestry when the username/password is wrong is a showstopper.

Lukas

On 19 July 2010 00:00, stephane ducasse  wrote:
> HI guys
>
> I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as 
> methods removal.
>
> So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that.
>
> Stef
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Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
The new one-click image is based on the Pharo-Dev images. Various
people seem to have reported issues with these images, please create
bug reports (in addition to reporting them here).

You can still download the images from my build server if you want.
They are built on Pharo-Core 1.1, they are configured to my personal
likings and I use them daily. The setting in question is definitely
there. Previous one-click images were based on these images.


http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/seaside3/*zip*/seaside3.zip

Lukas

On 19 July 2010 08:08, Randal L. Schwartz  wrote:
>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli  writes:
>
> Lukas>     World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion ->
> Lukas> Smart Characters
>
> No such thing in the Seaside One-click image.  Just an abbreviated
> "settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters.
>
> Lukas> Alternatively:
>
> Lukas>     ECPreferences smartCharacters: false
>
> I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real
> preferences browser.
>
> It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this.  Or maybe fortunate,
> so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes
> you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all
> selectable.
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Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

2010-07-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli  writes:

Lukas> World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion ->
Lukas> Smart Characters

No such thing in the Seaside One-click image.  Just an abbreviated
"settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters.

Lukas> Alternatively:

Lukas> ECPreferences smartCharacters: false

I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real
preferences browser.

It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this.  Or maybe fortunate,
so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes
you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all
selectable.

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Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion ->
Smart Characters

Alternatively:

ECPreferences smartCharacters: false

On 19 July 2010 03:36, Randal L. Schwartz  wrote:
>
> In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting
> (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately).
>
> I don't see one for Pharo.  It appears to be stuck on.
>
> I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces,
> and my annoyance level is greatly increased.
>
> It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it).
>
> Where's the preference?
>
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[Pharo-project] Unicode everywhere

2010-07-18 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
This is a newbie question.

I really don't understand the issue with Unicode and the image/vm/os in
Pharo/SqueakVM/Linux,Windows.

I searched the lists for references to utf-8 and the long discussions
about 
leadingChar
encodings
convert*Encoding methods
Strings
WideStrings
Text
DisplayText
WAKom and WAKomEncoded
keyboard input
text file input/output
vm's -encoding -textenc options

So, the people that know about this things, can you please give a newbie
explanation about this.

What is needed for we users to:

1. Input text by keyboard with accents (and maybe in the language of
Mordor too) and they look not like a diamond with a ? sign in the image
system browser.
2. This text be correctly send to a modern web browser and rendered in
utf-8 encoding correctly.
3. Upload a java messages bundle (or a file with characters outside
ASCII) with a web browser posted to a Seaside application, stored
temporaly in disk on the server and processed correctly (by opening it
with some FileStream class) inside the image.

Or is this really hard to do and I'm asking for the imposible?

I understand that there are performance issues with full unicode
image/vm but supposing that premature optimization rule applies here,
what we need to do to achieve this (utopian maybe) goal?


Why the question, because I put some strings inside the image (they look
fine as I type them). Then I used them to put labels in my Seaside app.
In the image I typed and saw in a code browser:

Búsqueda de información

But the web browser (firefox) I see:

B�squeda de informaci�n

If I change the web browser encoding to iso8859-1 I see it correctly.

Now if I evaluate

'Búsqueda de información' convertToEncoding: 'utf-8'

this gives:

'Búsqueda de información'

and if I use this weird, uneditable by hand, string as the string for my
Seaside app, I correctly see the string in the web browser:

Búsqueda de información.

So, I really don't understand. Should I always write my strings in the
image as I want them, use convertToEncoding: method and use the output
as if that were my string?

Well, thanks for your answers.

P.S. I am using pharo core 1.0, Seaside 2.8 and squeakvm version:

4.0.3-2202 #1 XShm Sat Apr 17 18:21:07 UTC 2010 gcc 4.4.3

in a 64 bit Debian Linux with full utf-8 locale:

mig...@laptop:~/proyectos/azteca$ locale
LANG=es_MX.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_MX.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

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Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

2010-07-18 Thread jaayer


 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:46:48 -0700 Alexandre Bergel  
wrote  

 > > #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you 
 > > pointed out, results in a degradation of performance. 
 >  
 > I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the '' 
 >  
 > Cheers, 
 > Alexandre 

Oops. Good catch.


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[Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

2010-07-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting
(defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately).

I don't see one for Pharo.  It appears to be stuck on.

I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces,
and my annoyance level is greatly increased.

It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it).

Where's the preference?

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Germán Arduino
Yes, Indeed, I mean, I used a driver to access, but can't remember now
the brand, but I'm sure I not payed for it :)

May be I used some trial version

2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
>
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
>> Not, I'm not talking of propietary software.
>>
>> I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the
>> odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this
>> http://www.unixodbc.org/ ?
>
> ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, then it
> won't help.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tudor:

 Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
 (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>>
>>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a
>>> driver
>>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
>>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>

 Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

 Cheers.
 Germán.


 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
>
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mariano!
>>
>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>
>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should
>> do
>> next?
>>
>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would
>> I
>> do that?
>>
>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>> calls
>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>
> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
> Data
> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
> to
> that datasource from your image.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>> ExternalLibrary
>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>
>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>
>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>
>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>
>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
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[Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

2010-07-18 Thread stephane ducasse
HI guys

I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as 
methods removal.

So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that.

Stef


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Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-07-18 Thread Gary Chambers
No problem. I can review/help.

Regards, Gary

Sent from my iPad

On 18 Jul 2010, at 01:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes  
wrote:

> Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London?
> 
> Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream 
> level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, 
> changes, Gary or Alain?
> 
> Hilaire
> 
> Le 18/07/2010 12:40, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Cool keep pushing
>> We will get a smaller and nicer system.
>> 
>> Stef
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>> 
>>> It starts to take shape.
>>> Here is a note with screen shot
>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pharo
>>> 
>>> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or 
>>> very deeper knowledge.
>>> 
>>> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand 
>>> well its behavior.
>>> 
>>> Hilaire
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Levente Uzonyi


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:


Not, I'm not talking of propietary software.

I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the
odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this
http://www.unixodbc.org/ ?


ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, 
then it won't help.



Levente



About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life

Cheers.


2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:


Hi Tudor:

Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).


I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.


Levente



Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

Cheers.
Germán.


2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
next?

I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
do that?

Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
calls
from ODBCLibrary going?


First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
Data
Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
to
that datasource from your image.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:




On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
wrote:
Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

Cheers,
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, laurent laffont wrote:


2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi 


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:

 Hi Tudor:


Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).



I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.



On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to
migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding)


This looks good and probably works on a Mac too: 
http://www.automatthew.com/2008/02/how-to-compile-mdbtools-on-mac-os-x.html



Levente



Cheers,

Laurent Laffont






Levente




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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

 Thanks Mariano!


Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
next?

I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
do that?

Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
calls
from ODBCLibrary going?



First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
Data
Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
to
that datasource from your image.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


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On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
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Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread laurent laffont
2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi 

> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
>  Hi Tudor:
>>
>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>
>
> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>

On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to
migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding)

Cheers,

Laurent Laffont



>
>
> Levente
>
>
>
>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germán.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks Mariano!

 Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

 I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
 next?

 I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
 do that?

 Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
 calls
 from ODBCLibrary going?

>>>
>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>> Data
>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>> to
>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>
 Cheers,
 Doru


 On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:


>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried loading it, but I get :
> "This package depends on the following classes:
> ExternalLibrary
> ExternalStructure"
>
> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>
> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>
> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>
> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mariano
>
>
> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>
> Yes, with ODBC.
>
>
> Levente
>
>
> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Germán Arduino
Not, I'm not talking of propietary software.

I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the
odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this
http://www.unixodbc.org/ ?

About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life

Cheers.


2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
>> Hi Tudor:
>>
>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>
> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germán.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Mariano!

 Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

 I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
 next?

 I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
 do that?

 Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
 calls
 from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>
>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>> Data
>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>> to
>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried loading it, but I get :
> "This package depends on the following classes:
> ExternalLibrary
> ExternalStructure"
>
> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>
> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>
> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>
> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mariano
>
>
> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>
> Yes, with ODBC.
>
>
> Levente
>
>
> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Alexandre Bergel
No idea about that. But let us know if you succeed. 

Good luck,
Alexandre


On 17 Jul 2010, at 23:35, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
> 
> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
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Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

2010-07-18 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you 
> pointed out, results in a degradation of performance.

I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the ''

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Hi,

Thanks for the pointers.

Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac?


Sure: http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php
Note that I have no experience with it, but there's a trial version.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote:


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:


Hi Tudor:

Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).


I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver 
which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But

there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.


Levente



Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

Cheers.
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2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
next?

I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
do that?

Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C 
calls

from ODBCLibrary going?


First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC 
Data
Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection 
to

that datasource from your image.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:




On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
wrote:
Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Tudor Girba

Hi,

Thanks for the pointers.

Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac?

Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote:


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:


Hi Tudor:

Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).


I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a  
driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But

there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.


Levente



Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

Cheers.
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2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I  
should do

next?

I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how  
would I

do that?

Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the  
C calls

from ODBCLibrary going?


First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an  
ODBC Data
Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a  
connection to

that datasource from your image.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


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On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba >

wrote:
Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from  
Pharo?


Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:


Hi Tudor:

Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).


I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a 
driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But

there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.


Levente



Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

Cheers.
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2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
next?

I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
do that?

Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls
from ODBCLibrary going?


First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data
Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to
that datasource from your image.


Levente



Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:




On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
wrote:
Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Germán Arduino
Hi Tudor:

Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
(Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).

Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480

Cheers.
Germán.


2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi :
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mariano!
>>
>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>
>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>> next?
>>
>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>> do that?
>>
>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls
>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>
> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data
> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to
> that datasource from your image.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>> ExternalLibrary
>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>
>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>
>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>
>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>
>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:


Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do 
next?


I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I do 
that?


Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls 
from ODBCLibrary going?


First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC 
Data Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a 
connection to that datasource from your image.



Levente



Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:




On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba  wrote:
Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
ExternalLibrary
ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the 
ConfigurationOfFFI.


Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

Cheers,
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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12061

2010-07-18 Thread stephane ducasse
12061
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removing donor and partBin.

Stef, gary and marcus :)

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Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent!

tx alex
On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:01 PM, jaayer wrote:

> 
> 
>  On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:01:33 -0700 Stéphane Ducasse  wrote  
> 
>> is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository? 
>> 
>> Stef 
>> 
> 
> Alexandre uploaded two ConfigurationOfXMLSupport packages: 
> http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport.html
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Tudor Girba

Thanks Mariano!

Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.

I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should  
do next?


I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would  
I do that?


Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C  
calls from ODBCLibrary going?


Cheers,
Doru


On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:




On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba   
wrote:

Hi,

I tried loading it, but I get :
"This package depends on the following classes:
 ExternalLibrary
 ExternalStructure"

Can anyone tell me where to find these from?

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the  
ConfigurationOfFFI.


Cheers

Mariano


Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?

Cheers,
Doru



On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?

Yes, with ODBC.


Levente


I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.

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[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] pre-built 1.2#12061 Core

2010-07-18 Thread Marcus Denker

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27291/PharoCore-1.2-12061.zip

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Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

2010-07-18 Thread jaayer


 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:01:33 -0700 Stéphane Ducasse  wrote  

>is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository? 
> 
>Stef 
> 

Alexandre uploaded two ConfigurationOfXMLSupport packages: 
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Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>> It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the 
>> method, bring push up and then you go to the next one
>> but the list is not selected just the item.
>> I got that a lot during our refactoring session.
> 
> Name: OmniBrowser-lr.483
> Author: lr
> Time: 18 July 2010, 3:20:03 pm
> UUID: f8c1b3df-4fda-4cf2-a533-e721c0cd5088
> Ancestors: OmniBrowser-lr.482
> 
> - more agressively refresh display when a node disappears
> 
>> BTW lukas could you have
>> rename class
> rename class refactoring close to rename class?
> 
> Consistency is more important in my option. Otherwise we have to move
> all other refactorings too and we end up with a mess.


no no no 
this is not a question of consistency.
this is question of use. Rename class and rename class refactoring should be 
together.
Believe the user.
Stef

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12060

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

12060
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Large cleaning of PasteUpMorph underway

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Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London?

Great. I'm pair programming with gary and we folded all the XXXPlus into their 
superclasses and lot more

Stef

> Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream 
> level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, 
> changes, Gary or Alain?
> 
> Hilaire
> 
> Le 18/07/2010 12:40, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Cool keep pushing
>> We will get a smaller and nicer system.
>> 
>> Stef
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>> 
>>> It starts to take shape.
>>> Here is a note with screen shot
>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pharo
>>> 
>>> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or 
>>> very deeper knowledge.
>>> 
>>> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand 
>>> well its behavior.
>>> 
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Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
> It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the method, 
> bring push up and then you go to the next one
> but the list is not selected just the item.
> I got that a lot during our refactoring session.

Name: OmniBrowser-lr.483
Author: lr
Time: 18 July 2010, 3:20:03 pm
UUID: f8c1b3df-4fda-4cf2-a533-e721c0cd5088
Ancestors: OmniBrowser-lr.482

- more agressively refresh display when a node disappears

> BTW lukas could you have
> rename class
rename class refactoring close to rename class?

Consistency is more important in my option. Otherwise we have to move
all other refactorings too and we end up with a mess.

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Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
This input box comes from

 PSUIManager>>#chooseFrom:values:lines:title:

Older images do not show the text-input field.

Lukas

On 18 July 2010 15:18, Lukas Renggli  wrote:
> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box
> for simple selections?
>
> Lukas
>
> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck :
>> I even think
>>
>>  PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel
>>     "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text"
>>     (self confirm:
>> 'Changes have not been saved.
>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated)
>>         ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag].
>>
>>
>> is better ;)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> sorry, I attach picture.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>>  wrote:

 Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange:

 because it sucks for me those popups.
 First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect
 items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options.

 So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes
 have not been saved."   and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard".
 Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons.

 I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but
 I didn't find how to do it.

 Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me.

 Cheers

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Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box
for simple selections?

Lukas

2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> I even think
>
>  PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel
>     "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text"
>     (self confirm:
> 'Changes have not been saved.
> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated)
>         ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag].
>
>
> is better ;)
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>  wrote:
>>
>> sorry, I attach picture.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange:
>>>
>>> because it sucks for me those popups.
>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect
>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options.
>>>
>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes
>>> have not been saved."   and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard".
>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons.
>>>
>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but
>>> I didn't find how to do it.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>
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Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

2010-07-18 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I even think

 PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel
"Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text"
(self confirm:
'Changes have not been saved.
Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated)
ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag].


is better ;)


On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
marianop...@gmail.com> wrote:

> sorry, I attach picture.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
> marianop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange:
>>
>> because it sucks for me those popups.
>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect
>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options.
>>
>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes
>> have not been saved."   and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard".
>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons.
>>
>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but
>> I didn't find how to do it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mariano
>>
>
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[Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

2010-07-18 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange:

because it sucks for me those popups.
First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect items
from the menu) that has no sense for two only options.

So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes
have not been saved."   and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard".
Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons.

I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but I
didn't find how to do it.

Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me.

Cheers

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Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-07-18 Thread Hilaire Fernandes

Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London?

Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the 
upstream level of course, and with someonce who can double check my 
suggestions, changes, Gary or Alain?


Hilaire

Le 18/07/2010 12:40, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :

Cool keep pushing
We will get a smaller and nicer system.

Stef
On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:


It starts to take shape.
Here is a note with screen shot
http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pharo

To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very 
deeper knowledge.

There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well 
its behavior.

Hilaire



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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12058

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
12058
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Issue 2676 - remove PluggableButtonMorphPlus

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Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository?

Stef

On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:27 AM, jaayer wrote:

> 
> 
>  On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:54:31 -0700 Levente Uzonyi  wrote  
> 
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Alexandre Bergel wrote: 
>> 
 (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the 
 #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It 
 degrades performance.) 
>>> 
>>> Feel free to provide a fix. I will be pleased to review and include it. 
> 
> It was fixed some time ago; I posted about it on this very group a few months 
> back.
> 
>> Well, thinking about it again I found that it depends on the use case. 
>> It's faster if the xml is small, has only a few different tags and not 
>> many tags use namespaces. It's slower in other cases. Also the 
>> parse/extract matters. Btw I still can't find the package in a core image. 
> 
> 
> The package is XMLSupport on squeaksource.com.
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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12057

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
12057
-

Issue 2676 - Really removing the classes PluggableListMorphPlus

removed the classes this times :)

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[Pharo-project] apparently renameClass

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Lukas 

we did a rename class and we got a message like Class is a global or ...
at the end. We continue. And now we realized that the class was (appeared to 
be) removed but when we published the code with MC.
The class was not removed.

Stef
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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharocasts: Start Pharo on GNU/Linux

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is good we will have a really nice set of videos for beginners.
May be after we will have to organize them.

Stef

On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:38 PM, laurent laffont wrote:

> For beginners, how to download image, sources, VM and open Pharo. Start 
> spreading :)
> 
> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/pharo-install.html
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Laurent Laffont
> 
> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/
> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>>after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self 
>> halt is selected.
>>I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we 
>> can directly refactor the next one.
>>Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old 
>> one but this is really taking cycle of attention.
> 
> The refactoring is performed in a different thread than the one that
> updates the GUI and refreshes the display. So it takes a few hundred
> milliseconds to propagate the changes to all other browser windows.
> You can see the same when you edit a method.
> 
> I've committed a little change that forces the browser that opened the
> refactoring change browser to immediately refresh the original
> browser. For all the other windows it still takes a short time to
> refresh.

Thanks lukas

> 
>  Name: OB-Refactory-lr.221
>  Author: lr
>  Time: 18 July 2010, 11:09:39 am
>  UUID: ea66aaba-9f9e-4f48-9cfd-9710601065b8
>  Ancestors: OB-Refactory-lr.220
> 
>  - force the browser that performs a refactoring to refresh
> immediately (all other browsers still take a few 100 milliseconds to
> get the system change notification and to refresh the display)
> 
>>The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected 
>> because it was in light blue but the list itself was
>>not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the 
>> system barked telling me that the selection was not
>>good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in 
>> the case I could see the selection because the list
>>was surrounded by a blue line).
> 
> Can you describe step by step how to reproduce that? I am not aware of
> such a problem.

It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the method, 
bring push up and then you go to the next one 
but the list is not selected just the item.
I got that a lot during our refactoring session.

BTW lukas could you have
rename class
>>>rename class refactoring close to rename class?

Because this is something that we do often.


Stef


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Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Cool keep pushing
We will get a smaller and nicer system. 

Stef
On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> It starts to take shape.
> Here is a note with screen shot
> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pharo
> 
> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or 
> very deeper knowledge.
> 
> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand 
> well its behavior.
> 
> Hilaire
> 
> 
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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12056

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

12056
-

Issue 2676 - Remove PluggableListMorphPlus

Stef and Gary from c...@london

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[Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

2010-07-18 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi. We are very near to release 1.1. We need help to remember all we all
have been doing on it ;)

Here is the current list:

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotOne

Please, feel free to add/modify actions.

Cheers

Mariano
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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12055

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

12055
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Remove PreferenceBrowser

Stef and Gary 

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12054

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
12054
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preparing unload of preferences 2

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[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12053

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
12053
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preparing unload of preferences

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Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

2010-07-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
>        after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self halt 
> is selected.
>        I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we 
> can directly refactor the next one.
>        Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old 
> one but this is really taking cycle of attention.

The refactoring is performed in a different thread than the one that
updates the GUI and refreshes the display. So it takes a few hundred
milliseconds to propagate the changes to all other browser windows.
You can see the same when you edit a method.

I've committed a little change that forces the browser that opened the
refactoring change browser to immediately refresh the original
browser. For all the other windows it still takes a short time to
refresh.

  Name: OB-Refactory-lr.221
  Author: lr
  Time: 18 July 2010, 11:09:39 am
  UUID: ea66aaba-9f9e-4f48-9cfd-9710601065b8
  Ancestors: OB-Refactory-lr.220

  - force the browser that performs a refactoring to refresh
immediately (all other browsers still take a few 100 milliseconds to
get the system change notification and to refresh the display)

>        The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected because 
> it was in light blue but the list itself was
>        not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the system 
> barked telling me that the selection was not
>        good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in 
> the case I could see the selection because the list
>        was surrounded by a blue line).

Can you describe step by step how to reproduce that? I am not aware of
such a problem.

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

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[Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

2010-07-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi lukas

I refactored a lot of code with gary yesterday and when we used refactor like 
push up method for example, we got bitten by two problems

after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self halt 
is selected. 
I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we can 
directly refactor the next one.
Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old 
one but this is really taking cycle of attention. 

The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected because 
it was in light blue but the list itself was
not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the system 
barked telling me that the selection was not 
good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in 
the case I could see the selection because the list
was surrounded by a blue line).

If you have time this would be great to fix these two problems.

Stef
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[Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-07-18 Thread Hilaire Fernandes

It starts to take shape.
Here is a note with screen shot
http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pharo

To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph 
or very deeper knowledge.


There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really 
understand well its behavior.


Hilaire



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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried loading it, but I get :
> "This package depends on the following classes:
>  ExternalLibrary
>  ExternalStructure"
>
> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>

This means that you need Metacello ;)

Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...

For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the ConfigurationOfFFI.

Cheers

Mariano


>
> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
>  On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>
>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

2010-07-18 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Tudor Girba  wrote:

> From the webpage, it looks like Access is not among the supported backends.
>
> But, I would be happy to be wrong :). Does anyone have a more precise idea?
>
>
SqueakDBX doesn't support Access but does ODBC. However, I think using the
ODBC driver would be easier for you.




> Doru
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010, at 02:14, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
>
>  Maybe squeakDBX, i don't know if it supports Access.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Levente Uzonyi  wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>
>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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