Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

Thank you Marcus, good to know its not only me. 



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Marcus Denker]

On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:51 AM, kilon  wrote:

> Is it a bug ? If I select a class and do alt+b it works , if I select the
> entire message it does not . For example 

Yes, there is a bug report there already since Apr 9, 2012:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/5628/More-permissive-navigation-Shortcuts-on-Classes-Symbols-Selectors

Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

Is it a bug ? If I select a class and do alt+b it works , if I select the
entire message it does not . For example 

In Athens-Cairo-Paints packages AthensCairoPatternPaint>>intialize

in line

NBExternalResourceManager addResource: self data: handle.

if I select "NBExternalResourceManager" alt+b works and browses the relevant
class

If I select "NBExternalResourceManager addResource: self data: handle." and
hit alt+b it does nothing 

Is that a bug and can you reproduce that bug ? if yes in both accounts then
I am more than happy to create the bug report. 



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Damien Cassou]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM, kilon  wrote:
> Dammien Alt+m is the implementors, and as i said implementors works for me,
> however alt+b which is for browsing does nothing.


please report on fogbugz with exact steps to reproduce

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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[stephane ducasse]

On Apr 16, 2013, at 2:35 PM, kilon  wrote:

> Dammien Alt+m is the implementors, and as i said implementors works for me,
> however alt+b which is for browsing does nothing. 

strange and how can we know in which class it is?
Browse on a selector => should be equivalent to implementors.

similarly implementor on a class => browse
We lost this cross binding in 20.

Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

ah thank you it works now. 

Well I am developing a project which I call "Ephestos" 
its an ide for visual , live coding for 3d graphics , sound and music for
pharo. 
I started it for blender and python but I really enjoy pharo so I decided to
port it.

I had several ideas , nothing super original , live documentation, live
display of
implementors and senders with no need of right clicks , menus and such. 

If you take a look at LightTable it already implements several of my ideas. 

http://www.chris-granger.com/lighttable/
  

if you implement those features then certainly I will be reusing your code.
It seems to me that you are very close to those ideas.



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Gisela Decuzzi]

There is a better explanation in the thread: SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0
But o short one, first load the prototype:
Gofer it
 smalltalkhubUser: 'gisela'
 project: 'SmartSuggestions';
 package: 'SmartSuggestions';
package: 'SmartSuggestionsNautilus';
load.

And then with the cursor (not necessary the mouse position) press ctrl + t
(sorry, I was wrong, I changed alt by ctrl the other day) and if there are
suggestions for you will appear a menu with the options.
Right now it's just a prototype and only offers you: implementors (if you
are in a message send), rename (if local variable) and rename, accesses and
sotores if it's an instance variable.
The menu is opening where the mouse is, it's a work in progress so, if you
have any suggestion/bug report/improvements I will be happy to listen about
it. Maybe in  SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0 thread.



2013/4/16 kilon 

> Gisela how exactly does it work ? because I hover my mouse and nothing
> happens ? Are there instructions anywhere I can read ? Alt + t does nothing
> for me .
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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

Gisela how exactly does it work ? because I hover my mouse and nothing
happens ? Are there instructions anywhere I can read ? Alt + t does nothing
for me .



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

Dammien Alt+m is the implementors, and as i said implementors works for me,
however alt+b which is for browsing does nothing. 



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Gisela Decuzzi]

Yes Alt/Command  (depending your OS) + m to find implementors and Alt + n
to find senders.
I found this post from Mariano very usefull
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/pharo-tips-and-tricks/

And, yes, I'm working in adding smart suggestions and smart menus depending
where you have the cursor :).
Right now I have a prototype that offers you a small set of actions
associated to your selection (a custom menu is displayed with alt + t), but
still lot of work is missing.  I've sent an email a couple of days before.



2013/4/16 Damien Cassou 

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, dimitris chloupis 
> wrote:
> > What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I found a message and
> > wanted to browse its code  i could highlight
> > with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the
> > menu.
>
>
> As Esteban says, it is under the "Extended search" submenu. You can
> also press Alt+m to do the same.
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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[kilon]

Ah ok its in there, i did not see it. Why is it not in top ? its seems very
important tool to be in a sub menu.

Also I have another issue it does not work always, if I select method and
choose browser it does nothing but reopens the right menu, the weird thing
is that senders and implementors work fine but also reopen the right click
menu. In 90% of the cases does not work. Anyone else having the same issues
on Ubuntu 12.10 mad64 ?

I dont know if this is a AthensTutorial bug , seems some people have it with
even do it. 

I tried Altbrowser from the configurations tool , changed to it and still
get same behavior. 



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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Damien Cassou]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, dimitris chloupis  wrote:
> What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I found a message and
> wanted to browse its code  i could highlight
> with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the
> menu.


As Esteban says, it is under the "Extended search" submenu. You can
also press Alt+m to do the same.

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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Esteban Lorenzano]

what Gisela is doing is smart suggestions: not the same, a lot better :)

The function Dimitris is asking for (browse a method imp. accesing with mouse) 
is already there (it never left), just in a different submenu



Esteban

On Apr 16, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Goubier Thierry  wrote:

> Le 16/04/2013 14:11, dimitris chloupis a écrit :
>> When I was using squeak a feature I used alot was the ability to browse
>> a selected method. What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I
>> found a message and
>> wanted to browse its code  i could highlight
>> with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the
>> menu. This way
>> I did not need to search for the method manually by mouse or use a
>> search field. I am using
>> Pharo 2.0 and I cannot find any such feature in the system browser , am
>> I missing something ?
> 
> Gisela is currently implementing / has implemented that for Nautilus.
> 
> If you want to experiment that, load the ConfigurationOfAltBrowser and try 
> AltBrowser; you don't even need to select, the browser will extend and show 
> you the selector (and then you can choose implementors). There are a few 
> other commands implemented that way (access/rename instance variables).
> 
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Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Esteban Lorenzano]

I don't understand... you do not find it?

right click/extend search/browse it (or any of the other possibilities)

Esteban

On Apr 16, 2013, at 2:11 PM, dimitris chloupis  wrote:

> When I was using squeak a feature I used alot was the ability to browse 
> a selected method. What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I found a 
> message and
> wanted to browse its code  i could highlight 
> with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the 
> menu. This way 
> I did not need to search for the method manually by mouse or use a search 
> field. I am using 
> Pharo 2.0 and I cannot find any such feature in the system browser , am I 
> missing something ?

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[Goubier Thierry]

Le 16/04/2013 14:11, dimitris chloupis a écrit :

When I was using squeak a feature I used alot was the ability to browse
a selected method. What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I
found a message and
wanted to browse its code  i could highlight
with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the
menu. This way
I did not need to search for the method manually by mouse or use a
search field. I am using
Pharo 2.0 and I cannot find any such feature in the system browser , am
I missing something ?


Gisela is currently implementing / has implemented that for Nautilus.

If you want to experiment that, load the ConfigurationOfAltBrowser and 
try AltBrowser; you don't even need to select, the browser will extend 
and show you the selector (and then you can choose implementors). There 
are a few other commands implemented that way (access/rename instance 
variables).


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[Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

[dimitris chloupis]

When I was using squeak a feature I used alot was the ability to browse 

a selected method. What I mean is that while browsing a method, if I found a 
message and
wanted to browse its code  i could highlight 

with my mouse (select the text) right click and select "browse" from the menu. 
This way 

I did not need to search for the method manually by mouse or use a search 
field. I am using 

Pharo 2.0 and I cannot find any such feature in the system browser , am I 
missing something ?