Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread John McIntosh
Casual mention of iPhone port, always helpfull

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 can/should do ...
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Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Geoffroy Couprie
Hello,

Thanks for advertising my post :)

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Robertson spotted this post:

 http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/

 I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
 can/should do ...

Well, we could make a poll to see who is bearded here...

Working with Smalltalk and Pharo has been a fun journey, and I'm still
enjoying the ride.

I especially thank Steph for introducing me to this wonderful platform!



Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Bearded +1

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Cheers,
Peter.

On 5 feb 2011, at 13:02, Geoffroy Couprie geo.coup...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Thanks for advertising my post :)
 
 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 James Robertson spotted this post:
 
 http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/
 
 I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
 can/should do ...
 
 Well, we could make a poll to see who is bearded here...
 
 Working with Smalltalk and Pharo has been a fun journey, and I'm still
 enjoying the ride.
 
 I especially thank Steph for introducing me to this wonderful platform!
 



Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Norbert Hartl

On 05.02.2011, at 13:02, Geoffroy Couprie wrote:

 Well, we could make a poll to see who is bearded here...

http://www.pharo-project.org/community/contributors

See yourself. The tricky thing about smalltalk and beards is that it does not 
mean to have a beard _on_ your face but to have it _behind_ your face and that 
cannot be seen in normal day light. :)

Norbert


Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Geert Claes


Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
 
 Bearded +1
 

Bearded +1 :)
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Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Dale Henrichs
Grey bearded _and_ long hair +1:)

Dale

On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Geert Claes wrote:

 
 
 Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
 
 Bearded +1
 
 
 Bearded +1 :)
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Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
That comment requires elaboration or at least some examples of what one 
can/should do, but getting past that is a big hurdle in learning Smalltalk.  
Things old to us can be earth shattering: something as simple as creating a new 
package (or even just a new class or a new class method somewhere, etc.) vs. 
writing a whole new program in some other language.





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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John McIntosh 
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

Casual mention of iPhone port, always helpfull

On 2/4/11, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Robertson spotted this post:

 http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/

 I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
 can/should do ...
 --
 View this message in context:
 http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-for-engineers-tp3261551p3261551.html
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Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Geoffroy Couprie
That's what I was trying to express: when you already program with
another language, you can easily understand a new language, but you
have big assumptions that will slow you down. I just pointed out the
most important parts that surprised me when I learned Smalltalk.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
 That comment requires elaboration or at least some examples of what one 
 can/should do, but getting past that is a big hurdle in learning Smalltalk.  
 Things old to us can be earth shattering: something as simple as creating a 
 new package (or even just a new class or a new class method somewhere, etc.) 
 vs. writing a whole new program in some other language.




 
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 [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John McIntosh 
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 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:33 AM
 To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

 Casual mention of iPhone port, always helpfull

 On 2/4/11, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Robertson spotted this post:

 http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/

 I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
 can/should do ...
 --
 View this message in context:
 http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-for-engineers-tp3261551p3261551.html
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Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Fair enough.  One of my big messages to newbies is that we Smalltalkers refer 
to the development tools with no small measure of reverence, but they look 
austere to those from the outside.  The reason is simple: the Smalltalk tools 
do not need to have countless toolbars; one can simply interact directly with 
the objects using the compiler which lurks just below the workspaces in the 
various tools.

Welcome aboard!

Bill



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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Geoffroy Couprie 
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:49 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

That's what I was trying to express: when you already program with
another language, you can easily understand a new language, but you
have big assumptions that will slow you down. I just pointed out the
most important parts that surprised me when I learned Smalltalk.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
 That comment requires elaboration or at least some examples of what one 
 can/should do, but getting past that is a big hurdle in learning Smalltalk.  
 Things old to us can be earth shattering: something as simple as creating a 
 new package (or even just a new class or a new class method somewhere, etc.) 
 vs. writing a whole new program in some other language.




 
 From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
 [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John McIntosh 
 [john...@smalltalkconsulting.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:33 AM
 To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

 Casual mention of iPhone port, always helpfull

 On 2/4/11, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Robertson spotted this post:

 http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/

 I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
 can/should do ...
 --
 View this message in context:
 http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-for-engineers-tp3261551p3261551.html
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[Pharo-project] Smalltalk for engineers

2011-02-04 Thread Geert Claes

James Robertson spotted this post:

http://unhandledexpression.com/2011/02/04/smalltalk-for-engineers/

I was especially interested in the statement you don’t understand what you
can/should do ...
-- 
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http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-for-engineers-tp3261551p3261551.html
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