Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Geert Claes

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 
 OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
 issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a package
 might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
 require it?
 

That's where the ConfigurationOf...'s and Metacello come in to ensure
dependencies, versions and Smalltalk implementations.

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 19:38 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz a écrit :
  Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)
 
 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

Hi Randal,

You should blame me for that.

Cheers,
Nicolas

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Janko Mivšek
.. and I see Metacello as a nice next step for SmalltalkHub: Metacello
based projects can be regarded as: serious, maintained, trustful,.. in
any case, those projects will be separated by itself from all other code.

So we won't need to care much about those not much useful code in the
repository...

Janko

On 07. 04. 2011 05:23, Dale Henrichs wrote:
 Randal,
 
 Managing packages on a per platform basis is one of the things that Metacello 
 was designed to do ... 
 
 Dale
 
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

 Serge On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)

 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

 Serge There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
 Serge Nicolas forget about that i guess.

 OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
 issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a
 package might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
 require it?

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 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/
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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Geert == Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com writes:

Geert That's where the ConfigurationOf...'s and Metacello come in to ensure
Geert dependencies, versions and Smalltalk implementations.

I guess I'm thinking more of development.  The question we were facing
about Squeaksource (and don't yet know if this applies to SmalltalkHub)
is how I as a developer keep my Squeak contributions separate from the
same package being developed for Pharo for the packages that overlap but
require different versions.

Is there some way of tagging a Monticello package in SmalltalkHub as to
which releases the development line is intended for?

Note that I've just barely woken up, so if this sounds as confusing as
it is to me right now, it probably is confused. :)

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Miguel Cobá
El mié, 06-04-2011 a las 19:38 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
  Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)
 
 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

That is because there isn't an announcement yet. It only mentioned that
a beta could be made available next week. I suppose that then an
announcement will be made.

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Miguel Cobá
El mié, 06-04-2011 a las 19:48 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
  Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Serge On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
  Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
  
 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)
  
  Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.
 
 Serge There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
 Serge Nicolas forget about that i guess.
 
 OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
 issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a
 package might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
 require it?

Isn't the responsibility of the repository. The repository only stores
code. Just like svn or github. You can use other features to emulate
and adapt it to your needs (like the tags) but that isn't a feature of
the repo.
Indeed is the task of the maintainer of the code to mark some versions
as tested and ok on some versions of Squeak or Pharo. Currently, in
Pharo, that job is done in Metacello configurations.

Cheers

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[Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Hi,

We've been working on a new code repository  project management
application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.

If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
(the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).

Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to 
migrate the existing squeaksource there?

Cheers,
Doru

 
On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:

 Hi,
 
 We've been working on a new code repository  project management
 application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
 If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
 The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
 (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
 Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
 http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 -- 
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :
 Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to 
 migrate the existing squeaksource there?

There is nothing at the moment to migrate. 

I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to
smalltalkhub, so a simple script could do the trick.

Cheers,
Nicolas

-- 
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http://www.nicolas-petton.fr




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas Petton petton.nico...@gmail.comwrote:

 Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :
  Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility
 to migrate the existing squeaksource there?

 There is nothing at the moment to migrate.

 I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to
 smalltalkhub, so a simple script could do the trick.


This is awesome. THanks ESUG!

And the history?  I mean, is this a new front end for a squeaksource server
?

thanks


 Cheers,
 Nicolas

 --
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr





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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Fernando Olivero
Excellent ! It's time to move past squeaksource.com.

Would be nice to know the features that will be offered, at least in
comparison with current squeaksource (besides the image crashing, and
bothering the always helpful Bern phd students).

Fernando


On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
marianop...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas Petton petton.nico...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :
  Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a
  possibility to migrate the existing squeaksource there?

 There is nothing at the moment to migrate.

 I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to
 smalltalkhub, so a simple script could do the trick.

 This is awesome. THanks ESUG!

 And the history?  I mean, is this a new front end for a squeaksource server
 ?

 thanks


 Cheers,
 Nicolas

 --
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr





 --
 Mariano
 http://marianopeck.wordpress.com





Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
What we ask is: 

- scripting api so that we do not have to click click click click but 
write programs
- tagging of projects
- management of projects (admin I want to be able to tag projects with 
students and do not see them).
- handling of ^%$$%*#^*^$$* long list of any items

- in the future: a solid backend 

Basically we need scalability at the interface level.

Now INRIA gracefully will offer a real back up of data (replicated in three 
different labs) and people will be able to 
use smalltalkhub and burn the machine processors :).

Stef

On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote:

 Excellent ! It's time to move past squeaksource.com.
 
 Would be nice to know the features that will be offered, at least in
 comparison with current squeaksource (besides the image crashing, and
 bothering the always helpful Bern phd students).
 
 Fernando
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
 marianop...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas Petton petton.nico...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :
 Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a
 possibility to migrate the existing squeaksource there?
 
 There is nothing at the moment to migrate.
 
 I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to
 smalltalkhub, so a simple script could do the trick.
 
 This is awesome. THanks ESUG!
 
 And the history?  I mean, is this a new front end for a squeaksource server
 ?
 
 thanks
 
 
 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 
 --
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Mariano
 http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
 
 
 




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Wow, looks great!

I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...

Cheers,
Adrian


On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote:

 Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to 
 migrate the existing squeaksource there?
 
 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We've been working on a new code repository  project management
 application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
 If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
 The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
 (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
 Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
 http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 -- 
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 
 
 --
 www.tudorgirba.com
 
 Being happy is a matter of choice.
 
 
 
 




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote:

 Wow, looks great!

 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...


+1  But providing a tool/script so that we know how to migrate manually our
own projects is a nice nice nice wish :)



 Cheers,
 Adrian


 On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote:

  Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility
 to migrate the existing squeaksource there?
 
  Cheers,
  Doru
 
 
  On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  We've been working on a new code repository  project management
  application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
  If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
  The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
  (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
  Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
  http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
  Cheers,
  Nicolas
  --
  Nicolas Petton
  http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 
 
  --
  www.tudorgirba.com
 
  Being happy is a matter of choice.
 
 
 
 





-- 
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http://marianopeck.wordpress.com


Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Janko Mivšek
On 06. 04. 2011 18:34, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
 Wow, looks great!
 
 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...

But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that
with some #archive tag or something.

The same goes with code from other Smalltalks. Like Smalltalk Goodies
archive back from 90's, there are quite some interesting code, which I'm
still using.

Best regards
Janko



 
 Cheers,
 Adrian
 
 
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote:
 
 Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to 
 migrate the existing squeaksource there?

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:

 Hi,

 We've been working on a new code repository  project management
 application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.

 If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
 The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
 (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).

 Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
 http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html

 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 -- 
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr


-- 
Janko Mivšek
Aida/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si



Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Cool! I guess you didn't you use JTalkST (too young), did you?

On 6 avr. 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:

 Hi,
 
 We've been working on a new code repository  project management
 application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
 If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
 The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
 (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
 Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
 http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 -- 
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 

Noury




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi,

Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from 
squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it.

But, maybe there are practical reasons.

In any case, the idea of having programatic access is really cool. I would love 
to use that for analysis purposes.

Cheers,
Doru


On 6 Apr 2011, at 18:46, Janko Mivšek wrote:

 On 06. 04. 2011 18:34, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
 Wow, looks great!
 
 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...
 
 But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that
 with some #archive tag or something.
 
 The same goes with code from other Smalltalks. Like Smalltalk Goodies
 archive back from 90's, there are quite some interesting code, which I'm
 still using.
 
 Best regards
 Janko
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 Adrian
 
 
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote:
 
 Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility 
 to migrate the existing squeaksource there?
 
 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We've been working on a new code repository  project management
 application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
 If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
 The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
 (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
 Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
 http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
 Cheers,
 Nicolas
 -- 
 Nicolas Petton
 http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 
 -- 
 Janko Mivšek
 Aida/Web
 Smalltalk Web Application Server
 http://www.aidaweb.si
 

--
www.tudorgirba.com

One cannot do more than one can do.






Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But you have the tool:
Gofer :)

Stef

On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

 
 
 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote:
 Wow, looks great!
 
 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...
 
 
 +1  But providing a tool/script so that we know how to migrate manually our 
 own projects is a nice nice nice wish :) 
 
  
 Cheers,
 Adrian
 
 
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote:
 
  Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility 
  to migrate the existing squeaksource there?
 
  Cheers,
  Doru
 
 
  On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  We've been working on a new code repository  project management
  application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub.
 
  If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week.
  The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment
  (the project itself is hosted by SmalltalkHub).
 
  Here's a screenshot in the meantime.
  http://nicolas-petton.fr/2011/04/06/smalltalkhub-beta-in-a-week.html
 
  Cheers,
  Nicolas
  --
  Nicolas Petton
  http://www.nicolas-petton.fr
 
 
 
  --
  www.tudorgirba.com
 
  Being happy is a matter of choice.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Mariano
 http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
 




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
 Hi,
 
 Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from 
 squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it.
 
 But, maybe there are practical reasons.

May be we could have a second server where we copy everything there. We will 
see how we will manage that.
The query are important because we can identify
created but unused
created but dormant
created but not used
...
and tag them

 In any case, the idea of having programatic access is really cool. I would 
 love to use that for analysis purposes.

:)
I did not guess on that one :)
and with the new EyeSee we may expect to have some cool looking infrastructure.





Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Noury Bouraqadi a écrit :
 Cool! I guess you didn't you use JTalkST (too young), did you?

No, it's too young to be used in real world apps. Maybe in the future ;)

cheers,
Nico

-- 
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http://www.nicolas-petton.fr




Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Tudor Girba tudor.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from 
 squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it.

 But, maybe there are practical reasons.

 In any case, the idea of having programatic access is really cool. I would 
 love to use that for analysis purposes.

Yes you are right, it might be difficult to say what is important and
what is not.
If you take the example of github and look at the explore dashboard
here: https://github.com/explore
you see only repositories with a lot of activities or the trendiest one.

I guess there is also a lot of repositories non active or dormant on
github also and nobody cares about that.
You just need enough disk space ;-)

Regards,
-- 
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UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/



Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Janko == Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si writes:

 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...

Janko But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that
Janko with some #archive tag or something.

It's not like Squeaksource is going away any time soon.

Remember, Pharo isn't the *only* Squeak out there.  If the Pharo team
wants to move off Squeaksource, that's great!  We were already talking
about how to tag various packages as squeak-only or pharo-only.
This simplifies that.

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Janko == Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si writes:

 I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from 
 SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has 
 accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years...

 Janko But still there can be something good and valuable. I'd migrate that
 Janko with some #archive tag or something.

 It's not like Squeaksource is going away any time soon.

 Remember, Pharo isn't the *only* Squeak out there.  If the Pharo team
 wants to move off Squeaksource, that's great!  We were already talking
 about how to tag various packages as squeak-only or pharo-only.
 This simplifies that.

Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)

Regards.
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/



Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)

Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)

 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
Nicolas forget about that i guess.

Regards,
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/



Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

Serge On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
Serge mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)
 
 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

Serge There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
Serge Nicolas forget about that i guess.

OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a
package might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
require it?

-- 
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mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

 Serge On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:

 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)

 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.

 Serge There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
 Serge Nicolas forget about that i guess.

 OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
 issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a
 package might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
 require it?

At the code level, you can manage several Squeak/Pharo branchs with
the help of Metacello.
At the repository level, i dunno if this possible to use this kind of
information for the web site.
And i guess not every projects use (or want to use) Metacello, so
suitable tags might be needed.

There is no obligation for every communities or projects to be on
SmalltalkHub, like every git repositories is not on github.

Regards,
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Dale Henrichs
Randal,

Managing packages on a per platform basis is one of the things that Metacello 
was designed to do ... 

Dale

On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Serge On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
 Serge mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
 Serge == Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Serge Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-)
 
 Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry.
 
 Serge There was no announcement on squeak-dev.
 Serge Nicolas forget about that i guess.
 
 OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the tagging
 issue comes up again.  How do we identify which branch of Squeak a
 package might be for?  And can we maintain forks for those things that
 require it?
 
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